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jasonir 03-20-2007 11:47 AM

So, I guess ISPrime self-righteously shuts down Black Hat SEO's
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/te...gy/19spam.html

:error

Splum 03-20-2007 11:55 AM

*rolls eyes*

BlackCrayon 03-20-2007 12:00 PM

oh well, there are plenty of hosts who don't give a fuck. hell, if spyware installers can manage to stay up and fill the web full of shit blackhats should too.

HeadPimp 03-20-2007 12:02 PM

If they violated the acceptable use policy, then they can do that.

Besides, it is much better to risk being sued by a spammer than the Feds or one of the big companies!

AaronM 03-20-2007 12:03 PM

See sig.

Phoenix 03-20-2007 12:04 PM

is it considered illegal?

Snake Doctor 03-20-2007 12:05 PM

Good for them. People who use dirty tricks instead of quality content to get traffic hurt the rest of us.

PSGuru 03-20-2007 12:08 PM

Microsoft is on the war path http://research.microsoft.com/SearchRanger/

jasonir 03-20-2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12116841)
is it considered illegal?

No it's not fucking illegal to spam search engines.

jasonir 03-20-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12116834)
See sig.

Care to explain? Obviously you had no problems profiting off of this until the press got involved.

Wizzo 03-20-2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSGuru (Post 12116864)
Microsoft is on the war path http://research.microsoft.com/SearchRanger/

Interesting stuff for sure! :pimp

jasonir 03-20-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 12116829)
If they violated the acceptable use policy, then they can do that.

Besides, it is much better to risk being sued by a spammer than the Feds or one of the big companies!

What exactly are they going to get sued for? Making lots of web pages on their own servers? Are you TOTALLY FUCKING RETARDED? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh The search engines crawl what they want to... no one forces them, or even necessarily invites them to index the pages.

teksonline 03-20-2007 12:46 PM

"Ultimately, it is advertisers’ money that is funding the search-spam industry, which is increasingly cluttering the Web with low-quality content and reducing Web users’ productivity,”

hahah that line cracked me up, reducing web users productivity.. rofl

Doctor Dre 03-20-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline (Post 12117070)
"Ultimately, it is advertisers? money that is funding the search-spam industry, which is increasingly cluttering the Web with low-quality content and reducing Web users? productivity,?

hahah that line cracked me up, reducing web users productivity.. rofl

Well that's true... sometimes you have to look 5 pages deep to get what you're looking for.

Phoenix 03-20-2007 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonir (Post 12116891)
No it's not fucking illegal to spam search engines.

hmm then whats the issue

maybe they had a letter sent to them from some lawyer

lots of hosts out there

vvq 03-20-2007 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 12117083)
Well that's true... sometimes you have to look 5 pages deep to get what you're looking for.

that's the search engines fault. they should just fix their algorithms so relevent sites are listed first. :winkwink:

i can't believe a host would ban someone for SE Spamming. i won't be using ISPime anytmie soon.

deniska 03-20-2007 01:04 PM

We received an abuse complaint and processed it the way we would any other. In this particular instance there were several notifications of abuse including those from Microsoft from NYTimes, as well as bloggers and general surfers. The customer in question in that article was in direct violation of our acceptable use policy and was terminated. As all other hosts are, we are dependent to some degree on complaints from end users who find such abuse. We have absolutely no interest in making any profit off sites that violate our AUP, and will terminate customers who violate our AUP as soon as we are made aware of the situation.

This issue was more than just "google surfing their pages", and involved a very significant amount of blogspam/comment spam/guestbook spam, which is not quite as innocent.

ISPrime has a long track record of being anti-spam, and we consider blogspam to be the same category.

JFK 03-20-2007 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 12116834)
See sig.

NICE:pimp

Klen 03-20-2007 01:28 PM

That is beacuse people do pure spam-they post message "check out my site yada yada yada"which is completly unrelated to blog post or guestbook.
It's enough to make related post and you will not be classified as spammer.

WiredGuy 03-20-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deniska (Post 12117163)
ISPrime has a long track record of being anti-spam, and we consider blogspam to be the same category.

No offense, but there's anti-spamming laws setup for email spam such as canspam. I wouldn't categorize blogspam in the same category until ammendments are made or other laws are passed.
WG

vvq 03-20-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deniska (Post 12117163)
This issue was more than just "google surfing their pages", and involved a very significant amount of blogspam/comment spam/guestbook spam, which is not quite as innocent.

This is just another blackhat technique. It's not illegal. But if it's in your AUP I guess it was his own fault.

baddog 03-20-2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 12117319)
No offense, but there's anti-spamming laws setup for email spam such as canspam. I wouldn't categorize blogspam in the same category until ammendments are made or other laws are passed.
WG

We don't need laws to tell us what is right and wrong. Spam is spam whether it be email or comment spam.

porno jew 03-20-2007 01:40 PM

search engines and hosts can do whatever they want with their property. can't believe their are so many socialist pigs here.


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