Originally Posted by will76
(Post 12166163)
Lars says we were " promoting" zango as to imply we were the ones doing damage here but yet they were the ones buying the traffic and fucking people, but they make no reference to them doing anything wrong. No apologies. No nothing. Kinda sounds like AFF was a victim here. Poor AFF was making money from stolen traffic but because of the " promotion" here their deal become unprofitable. Awe, that's too bad.
If you really believe a lot of people signed up to " promote " zango, then you people really are sheep. Educating affiliates of the harms of Zango is like letting people know that the burgers at some fast food restaurant is contaminated with mad cow. The only people that would promote zango installs are either complete morons who do not promote any other affiliate programs, or people who already do installs. If Lars really believes that " so many affiliates have signed on to promote Zango" from the promotions here maybe he could name a few. Can any of you just name a few, and I am not talking about idiots like Frank or Dork Jedi who just trying to get attention. Prove me wrong, point out all these people, because obviously for you to make a statement like that you must have some evidence, surely you wouldnt be lying or guessing. Even if a few did, there was a good bit of people who were doing zango installs that had no idea how they worked and have stopped because of the " promotions " here. I can guarantee you more good than harm was done from the Zango installing side, don't let Lars try to spin this and try to make others look bad so he can try to make himself look better. Don't forget this is the guy who said " sex search made him do it, and it's only a pop up".
The second part is correct. Apparently a lot of people didn't know they could by traffic from Zango and because of the " promotions " here ran up the ad prices. That was a side effect of educating people. Either you say nothing, and uneducated webmasters do zango installs, or you educate people and help reduce the number of installs. If you say nothing, than the installs only get worse. The installs are the things that really hurt us. If some shady fuckers heard the message and went and bought zango traffic, what can you do.... 1. Now they are exposing themselves and everyone can block them and treat them the same way AFF was treated. 2. They are running up the cost of the traffic, fine, I am glad AFF and others had to pay more for the traffic they are STEALING from me. It's my traffic, it at least makes me feel a little better you are profiting less and less off of MY traffic. Unfortunetly Zango makes more, but maybe the FTC fines will be bigger next time, and soon or later they will be sued, so hopefully they will lose that money one way or another. There is no win win situation here. If you speak up, some shady people will buy traffic, if you don't speak up no one knows about the problem and more people do installs...... Don;t let sheep hearders try to tell you that we caused the problem.... if you have two braincells and comprehend what i posted here, you will be able to see through the bull shit.
So If you read what Lars posted in this thread you see he is trying to blame the people here for " promoting " zango. To say they stopped because we weren't making money is just shitty. You think they would just lie and say we decided to do the right thing. Hey Lars, looks like our " promotion" made your profitable zango do not so profitable. Glad to know we cost you money, just like you been costing us money.
I am not an affiliate of AFF, so I don't give a fuck if AFF stopped using zango 3 months ago on their own urls that have aff ids. What about the rest of us? What about all the clickcash affiliates, fling, dating gold, iwantu, etc... affiliates. You still targeted those sites and hijaked sales from those affiliates. Your reply to this in the past has been " I am trying to protect our affiliates". Which is bullshit. 1. How do you protect your own affilaites by stealing my ifriends traffic and sending it to AFF? 2. Do you realize that a lot of people that promote AFF also promote these other affiliate programs as well. SO most people aren't just YOUR affiliates.
I guess Sex Search made them do it, and Will76 and GFY posters made AFF stop. Funny how a company that makes 100+ million a year gets pushed around so easily.
Someone pisses on you for a year, runs out of piss, and tries to blame the beer for the reason they pissed on you, and then expects you to dry off and forget. Whatever. Promote AFF if you want, use zango if you want, but at least fucking use your brain and don't buy the shit they spew. If you are only concerned with money and dont care how you make it or who you associate with thats your call, but at least be aware of what you doing.
The other funny thing with this " it is not profitable for us now " bull shit. Aparently Lars was lieing a few months back when he said he lost money using zango. SO if you were losing money 5 moths ago, why not stop then? I am sure someone can dig up the threads where that was posted. Lets say we believe you now, and it just became un profitable now, and you were lieing then and making money from it back then... ok, so you say you stopped targeting your own affiliates 3 months ago, and now you say it is not profitable. Looks like when you stopped taking your affiliates sales you started making less money... how nice.
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