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tony286 04-11-2007 02:33 PM

IRS: Joe Francis caught in $20 million corporate tax scheme
 
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...efrancis1.html
man when it rains it pours

NaughtyRob 04-11-2007 02:34 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wizzo 04-11-2007 02:34 PM

Now that one he should be worried about... :pimp

The Real Deal 04-11-2007 02:36 PM

Lube up that ass. Thats going to hurt.

xclusive 04-11-2007 02:36 PM

ouch, What a fool, Ya don't fuck with the IRS

baddog 04-11-2007 02:39 PM

You know, when you start doing stupid things, like ignoring a contempt of court order you start drawing undesired attention to yourself.

Unfortunately, money does not buy brains, and if his attornies were advising him he apparently was not heeding their advice.

MaDalton 04-11-2007 02:40 PM

greed is the source of all evil :2 cents:

Snake Doctor 04-11-2007 02:41 PM

Wow, from king of the world to convict in just a few years. Would be one hell of a fall if he's found guilty.

XPays 04-11-2007 02:42 PM

his attorney is going to be billing him obscenely

hollinator 04-11-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12238012)
You know, when you start doing stupid things, like ignoring a contempt of court order you start drawing undesired attention to yourself.

Unfortunately, money does not buy brains, and if his attornies were advising him he apparently was not heeding their advice.

I second that, Baddog :winkwink:

DjSap 04-11-2007 02:45 PM

Read through the stuff and it looks pretty solid. If I were him I would be leaving the country.

xclusive 04-11-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 12238032)
his attorney is going to be billing him obscenely

By the end it would have probably been cheaper to pay the $20 mil

Supz 04-11-2007 02:48 PM

he MIGHT do a couple of years. big woop. ide trade 20 million for a couple years in the joint

Scootermuze 04-11-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12238012)
You know, when you start doing stupid things, like ignoring a contempt of court order you start drawing undesired attention to yourself.

Unfortunately, money does not buy brains, and if his attornies were advising him he apparently was not heeding their advice.

True...

And when the law can't find enough to do the deed, they sometimes bring in the IRS to see what they can find on their end with hopes of gettin' the bad guy that way.. That's how they finally got some of the old gangsters back in the day..

After Shock Media 04-11-2007 02:49 PM

Some of those deductions are well fucking funny. Hell you would think with his money he could of at least afforded a more creative accountant if he planed on cheating.

u-Bob 04-11-2007 02:50 PM

ouch ...

After Shock Media 04-11-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 12238080)
he MIGHT do a couple of years. big woop. ide trade 20 million for a couple years in the joint

I wouldnt if my job was getting thousands of daddies lil girls to expose themselves and much much more on video, the web, and national tv spots just for a hat and t-shirt. I would be very concerned with how many of those daddies may be in prison with me if I was him. I am fairly sure they would be very fond of his twink ass.

DjSap 04-11-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 12238080)
he MIGHT do a couple of years. big woop. ide trade 20 million for a couple years in the joint

It doesn't work like that. He will be paying the 20 million back to the IRS in addition to a fine. Then he'll have to fork out the legal fees, which for good tax lawyers usually go to somewhere around 2-4k per hour.

WiredGuy 04-11-2007 02:59 PM

Federal tax audit, ohhhhh baby. Those are fun!
WG

Drake 04-11-2007 03:28 PM

The judge that he told off recently is probably smiling right now.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-11-2007 03:32 PM

They got what it takes to take what you got...

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze27qdt/irs.jpg

Things aren't looking too good for GGW Joe... :Oh crap

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Peaches 04-11-2007 03:33 PM

Don't forget they finally got Al Capone on income tax evasion.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-11-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 12238428)
Don't forget they finally got Al Capone on income tax evasion.

http://www.koalie.net/Walks/200309-C...133658-med.jpg

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seeric 04-11-2007 04:27 PM

i keep tellin people get paid in carrots and broccoli

webair 04-11-2007 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12238012)
You know, when you start doing stupid things, like ignoring a contempt of court order you start drawing undesired attention to yourself.

Unfortunately, money does not buy brains, and if his attornies were advising him he apparently was not heeding their advice.


"attorneys" :winkwink:

NinjaSteve 04-11-2007 04:33 PM

Whoooooooa! WTF!

JMM 04-11-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 12238190)
Federal tax audit, ohhhhh baby. Those are fun!
WG

This isn't an audit, this is an indictment.

Remember, this is how they got Al Capone.

JMM 04-11-2007 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM (Post 12238953)
This isn't an audit, this is an indictment.

Remember, this is how they got Al Capone.

Note to self: read entire thread before making specific references.

Barefootsies 04-11-2007 05:03 PM


RedShoe 04-11-2007 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12238119)
I wouldnt if my job was getting thousands of daddies lil girls to expose themselves and much much more on video, the web, and national tv spots just for a hat and t-shirt. I would be very concerned with how many of those daddies may be in prison with me if I was him. I am fairly sure they would be very fond of his twink ass.

My uncle used to work in Corcoran. He said prisioners like it when high profile people become inmates. Fucking up a high profile inmate bodes well with other inmates.

I thought it was pretty foolish to begin with that he set up Mantra as an S-Corp.

LiveDose 04-11-2007 05:45 PM

It's pretty clear his ego was influencing his decision making... What a complete dumb ass. As a rich daddy's boy though I guess it's not surprising.

This is exactly what the MAN wanted. He's toast if it's true.

JP-pornshooter 04-11-2007 05:47 PM

Thats my number one rule.. dont cheat on taxes, its too easy to get caught and they will fuckin roast your ass..

Worried 04-11-2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 12239237)
My uncle used to work in Corcoran. He said prisioners like it when high profile people become inmates. Fucking up a high profile inmate bodes well with other inmates.

I thought it was pretty foolish to begin with that he set up Mantra as an S-Corp.

Why was it foolish to have it set up as s-corp?

Does the government frown on S-corp?

I'm getting incorporated soon and I'll be talking to a cpa but I still want to know why it's stupid.

baddog 04-11-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webair (Post 12238819)
"attorneys" :winkwink:

I know, I noticed it but my crappy wireless here in Bumfuck, IN did not allow me to get back to edit it. Damn snow.

dynastoned 04-11-2007 05:58 PM

number one rule don't fuck with the IRS. they have interrogation rooms just like the FBI believe me i've been there.

Drake 04-11-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 12239249)
It's pretty clear his ego was influencing his decision making... What a complete dumb ass. As a rich daddy's boy though I guess it's not surprising.

This is exactly what the MAN wanted. He's toast if it's true.

He came from a rich family? Sheesh, greed really got the better of him.

Rochard 04-11-2007 06:23 PM

This is a set up... They waited until they had him in jail on this silly crap and then hammered him hard. This is worst case. They want to make an example of him.

uno 04-11-2007 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12238012)
You know, when you start doing stupid things, like ignoring a contempt of court order you start drawing undesired attention to yourself.

Unfortunately, money does not buy brains, and if his attornies were advising him he apparently was not heeding their advice.

It appears the war has begun.

uno 04-11-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12238016)
greed is the source of all evil :2 cents:

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed -- for lack of a better word -- is good.

Greed is right.

Greed works.

Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And greed -- you mark my words -- will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.

-Gordon Gekko

LiveDose 04-11-2007 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 12239365)
He came from a rich family? Sheesh, greed really got the better of him.


His Dad is/was the big cheese at Mandalay Entertainment.

RawAlex 04-11-2007 06:47 PM

Umm, slight correction...


He faces 10 years and / or $500,000 fine - plus you can be sure that all of his taxes for however long they can go back will be audited and he will be paying tax. That 20 million isn't his to keep.

Considering that he is a very public "porn guy", don't be shocked if he gets max'ed out on this one.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-11-2007 07:14 PM

I expect we will be seeing a more humble Joe during his next court appearance, unless he wants to see what a "Judge Gone Wild", truly means...

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Scootermuze 04-11-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12239416)
This is a set up... They waited until they had him in jail on this silly crap and then hammered him hard. This is worst case. They want to make an example of him.

I don't think the IRS needs a local sherrif to corner someone before they jump in.. They've probably been going through his paperwork for awhile..

baddog 04-11-2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12239416)
This is a set up... They waited until they had him in jail on this silly crap and then hammered him hard. This is worst case. They want to make an example of him.

He has no one to blame but himself. There was no setup.

baddog 04-11-2007 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supzdotcom (Post 12238080)
he MIGHT do a couple of years. big woop. ide trade 20 million for a couple years in the joint

Amazing the inability of some people to read and comprehend. He did not make, steal or save $20 million. He had $20 million in phony business expenses. Big difference.

Neighbor 04-11-2007 08:41 PM

At the end of the day he made a business decision....one which will probably save him millions...

The IRS will cut a "payment deal" and out of the $20 million, he will owe about 60% of that, which means he will pay out $12 million, plus a few minor fines, and wind up walking away with +$7 million....

Remember, although the IRS is government, it is still a business too.

Quick Buck 04-11-2007 08:47 PM

how does the government figure this shit out? I could barely keep up with all th e fake companies and transfers and offshore properties.

Quick Buck 04-11-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult_webmaster (Post 12240009)
Remember, although the IRS is government, it is still a business too.


The IRS didn't file this suit (as they normally do).. this was filed by the DOJ and the timing is awfully coincidental.


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