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Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:29 AM

The Official 9/11 thread..scientific inquiry..and comparisons with demolitions
 
This is a an excellent video...thanks to the person who sent it to me.
I'll leave their name out of it. It is 90 minutes so make sure you have gotten some work done first:)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EMWn-bQYfSc

watch it....it talks about energy and the amount needed to throw plane sized chuncks of seeel hundreds of metres sideways.

how the frame of the building was really like mosquito netting and a plane or five should not have given it any trouble.

where are the core steel girders? 47 huge steel beams all neatly cut into 30 ft sections....how does that happen exactly?

comparison video of demolitions and showing other buildings that have fallen down.

In depth look at the so called expalnation videos from Nova etc...and why they never ansered any critical quetions. Just enough tto keep the fools who fool themselves happy.

Anyway..enjoy the video...and flame on.

open minds and analytical thinkers need respond only.

Ramos 04-13-2007 07:32 AM

we never landed on the moon

thebestdamnsexshow 04-13-2007 07:34 AM

thanks for sharing the vid

notabook 04-13-2007 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos (Post 12247065)
we never landed on the moon

True. Also JFK was shot by the clone of Elvis Presley.

campimp 04-13-2007 07:37 AM

fuck george bush

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramos (Post 12247065)
we never landed on the moon

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aRW0vc_2wXU


watch the video man...only fools reject scientific findings

but yet that is is what is being sold to everyone

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247049)
and a plane or five should not have given it any trouble.

Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notabook (Post 12247083)
True. Also JFK was shot by the clone of Elvis Presley.

i guess you swallow up the "pancake theory" and hold it tight to your chest rocking back and forth saying thing s like no noe would do this to us knowingly


you know that in real life if it did pancake the theory of pancaking should have slowed the progressive crash of the building falling..not speed it up.
Each floor should add resistance....but yet these builds fell at the speed of gravity.


why did the basement blow up...lol



well keep your head in the sand it will be ok

i predict some major major arrests when cheney and his boys dont have a president in power anymore

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:43 AM

There are recordings of this guy, an engineer or something, who knew the wtc inside out. He went inside after the plane hit the building to help people get out. He kept calling with the control center to keep them up to date with the situation. When he reached the area where the plane entered he said the damage was HUGE and he was afraid the tower might collapse because of it.

You know, those 2 sentences from that guy make more sense than all your idiotic delusional 16 year old kid in his moms basement making up crazy theories bs.

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247104)
you know that in real life if it did pancake the theory of pancaking should have slowed the progressive crash of the building falling..not speed it up.
Each floor should add resistance....but yet these builds fell at the speed of gravity.

No it did not delusional moron. Check any footage from any site. Even your conspiracy lunatic sites. The debris falls faster than the building itself. What how fast is that then? Faster than the speed of gravity :1orglaugh

Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247096)
Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.

you mean the huge fireball that consumd most of the kerosene the instant impact occured?

Or do you perhaps mean the fact that it was billowing smoke like crazy....kerosene burns free and clear and doesnt produce smoke..the fire was oxygen starved thus the smoke.

wait tell us again how the steel melted..and that is what brought down the towers...lol..you are the idiot franck and everyone knows it.


do you hope to get taken into the mafia for your support on a porn board? lol

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247109)
No it did not delusional moron. Check any footage from any site. Even your conspiracy lunatic sites. The debris falls faster than the building itself. What how fast is that then? Faster than the speed of gravity :1orglaugh

Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.


im sorry did you just say that debris was falling faster then the speed of gravity?
based on what again?

this is good stuff keep it coming...you dont even really warrant a response from me..but ill play along for awhile

StuartD 04-13-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247096)
Delusional idiot, have you ever looked at the actual close up footage and the damage that one plane did? You are really beyond pathetic.

Ah, now I understand. You only see what you want to see, and skip the videos and arguments of others without even listening. No wonder you believe the official story so deeply. You've heard nothing but.

Way to keep an open mind :thumbsup

v4 media 04-13-2007 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247109)
Fucking moron imbecile. I hope someone takes a shit on your head.


Say what you really think, don't hold back now.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12247130)
Ah, now I understand. You only see what you want to see, and skip the videos and arguments of others without even listening. No wonder you believe the official story so deeply. You've heard nothing but.

Way to keep an open mind :thumbsup


Franck has ostrich syndrome.

he doesnt want to believe there are real bad guys out there...he thinks that kind of stuff is just for the movies.

StuartD 04-13-2007 07:53 AM

I love this part...

http://www.ratemypaysite.com/pics/compare.jpg

"Compare the 20 hours of a raging inferno in Madrid to 90 minutes of smoke in New York. The building in Madrid never fell."

12clicks 04-13-2007 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247049)
The Official 9/11 thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247049)
https://youtube.com

:1orglaugh

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247115)
you mean the huge fireball that consumd most of the kerosene the instant impact occured?

Or do you perhaps mean the fact that it was billowing smoke like crazy....kerosene burns free and clear and doesnt produce smoke..the fire was oxygen starved thus the smoke.

wait tell us again how the steel melted..and that is what brought down the towers...lol..you are the idiot franck and everyone knows it.


do you hope to get taken into the mafia for your support on a porn board? lol


Where do i say the steel melted you fucking imbecile???

And i didnt ask for your idiotic smoke theories. I asked you if you ever sen the actual damage in one of the many close up shots. The plane made a few floors almost dissapear and you come here claiming it could easily handle 4 or 5 planes. Thats the most idiotic comment ive read from you so far. And all because some 16 year old kids makes that up in his home made video. Fucking hell what a fucking retard you are. Find help.

Why the fuck would anybody want to do business with an delusion idiot like you. You are crazy. You know, fucked up in your head. A lunatic.

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12247149)
I love this part...

http://www.ratemypaysite.com/pics/compare.jpg

"Compare the 20 hours of a raging inferno in Madrid to 90 minutes of smoke in New York. The building in Madrid never fell."

What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12247150)
:1orglaugh

thanks for putting some thought into your argument...we know that must encapsulate your total mental ability

we thank you for your contribution

but this thread is closed to morons...so please go try on a new skirt or something

StuartD 04-13-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247157)
What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?

The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.

Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:57 AM

Funny how you simply ignore the engineer who knew more about the twin towers then you ever will he he says the tower might collapse.

Hey, thats not important right. I mean small detail and why would you believe that. You rather believe some idiot at home making up stories right. Because thats waaaaaay more plausible.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247157)
What happened in Madrid? A huge ass plane destroyed a few floors of the building as well?

do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247161)
Funny how you simply ignore the engineer who knew more about the twin towers then you ever will he he says the tower might collapse.

Hey, thats not important right. I mean small detail and why would you believe that. You rather believe some idiot at home making up stories right. Because thats waaaaaay more plausible.

who are you talking about?

the building engineer sho said that there were explosions used in the building?

is that the guy you are referring to?

Martin 04-13-2007 07:59 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tD5Wl...elated&search=


If you still think that planes could turn both those 110 story STEEL towers into dust then you're the one thats pathetic!

Bush knocked down the towers, it was you nigga, tell the truth nigga!

WarChild 04-13-2007 07:59 AM

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Dirty F 04-13-2007 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12247160)
The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.

So imbecile, are you saying you are comparing 2 incidents. One building with a fire and one building where a fucking big plane destroyed a few floors and based on the fact that the one with the fire didnt go down and the one with the plane crash you claim that the towers were brought down by explosives? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Wait seriously tell me, am i ready this correctly?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12247172)
ah..duh


i know you must have thought long and hard about your response here.

i mean...i know it is confusing with all the scientific thought flowing from the video...dont worry man...you can copy of my answer sheet and we will let you pass the class

Dirty F 04-13-2007 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247166)
do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.

So imbecile, did a fucking big ass plane crash into that building as well? Or is that just MINOR detail that shouldnt matter when it comes to buildings collapsing.

So same question for you: You are comparing 2 buildings where one was on fire and the other had a plane crash into it and because the one that was one fire didnt collapse it means the wtc was bombed??

Please, just a yes or no.

StuartD 04-13-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247174)
So imbecile, are you saying you are comparing 2 incidents. One building with a fire and one building where a fucking big plane destroyed a few floors and based on the fact that the one with the fire didnt go down and the one with the plane crash you claim that the towers were brought down by explosives? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Wait seriously tell me, am i ready this correctly?? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So your best argument against anything is to immediately call them an imbecile? And you wonder why you don't win debates?

And I claimed it came down by explosives? When did this happen? Are you suddenly coming up with your own theories?

Am I reading this correctly?

If you can't understand what I say, how can you possibly claim to ever understand the findings of an expert engineer??

Dirty F 04-13-2007 08:05 AM

Phoenix, you havent answered me yet: If the building collapsed at the speed of gravity but the debris fell faster. How fast did the debris fell? Faster than the speed of gravity? Please explain. Im highly interested how that works exactly.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247179)
So imbecile, did a fucking big ass plane crash into that building as well? Or is that just MINOR detail that shouldnt matter when it comes to buildings collapsing.

So same question for you: You are comparing 2 buildings where one was on fire and the other had a plane crash into it and because the one that was one fire didnt collapse it means the wtc was bombed??

Please, just a yes or no.

you asked multiple questions here..lol
a yes and no answere is not fitting..but i dont expect you to understand such minor things like that.


basic answer: the buildings were not that bothered from the plane crashes...they were made of steel and meshed together like a mosquito net.
building 7 fell with no pane and hardly any fire..lol

12clicks 04-13-2007 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247159)
thanks for putting some thought into your argument...we know that must encapsulate your total mental ability

we thank you for your contribution

but this thread is closed to morons...so please go try on a new skirt or something

no, no, really, I'm laughing WITH you.:1orglaugh

Martin 04-13-2007 08:07 AM

hmmmmm who to believe twinky frank or the guys who built the buildings who say that the planes couldn't bring the towers down?? thats a tough one.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12247192)
Phoenix, you havent answered me yet: If the building collapsed at the speed of gravity but the debris fell faster. How fast did the debris fell? Faster than the speed of gravity? Please explain. Im highly interested how that works exactly.

Franck..you know you are helping out..thanks man.

only one way for debris to fall faster then gravity my friend..and that is if theywere ejected with a much bigger force IE explosions.


the explosions that went off are what is causing stuff to fall faster then the speed of gravity..the explosions also caused plane sized pieces of steel to fly hundreds of metres horizontally.

Dirty F 04-13-2007 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247193)
basic answer: the buildings were not that bothered from the plane crashes...

And this is where is stop posting in thread thread because you are completely fucking delusional and insane and talking to someone like you makes as much sense as talking to a wall. Let me repeat that one more time: You are completely fucked in your head. Totally fucking completely crazy.

Im out of this thread. Have fun.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12247196)
no, no, really, I'm laughing WITH you.:1orglaugh

who cares what you do...why dont you go make yourself feel good elsewhere

maybe try to belittle someone in public as you so often like to do.

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:16 AM

what about the guys laying upgraded internet cable the weekend before?
everyone out of the building and no cameras or anything as all power is off.

face it people...you been hoodwinkled

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:16 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yIgoXQWiSlM

12clicks 04-13-2007 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247207)

maybe try to belittle someone in public as you so often like to do.

man, I love your total lack of self awareness.:1orglaugh

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12247244)
man, I love your total lack of self awareness.:1orglaugh

yes yes funny funny.

this is a controversial subject and it needs to be brought to light.


were they really just laying new internet cable the weekend before it went down?

StuartD 04-13-2007 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 12247197)
hmmmmm who to believe twinky frank or the guys who built the buildings who say that the planes couldn't bring the towers down?? thats a tough one.

Yeah, tough call. Franck is almost always right, and should he ever find himself not being right, he tends to just leave threads entirely.

WarChild 04-13-2007 08:26 AM

Fuck, I was just going to leave for my run when I realized that they upgraded the internet cabling in my house last week. I'm afraid of a false flag operation on my den while I'm out! :(

Phoenix 04-13-2007 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12247275)
Fuck, I was just going to leave for my run when I realized that they upgraded the internet cabling in my house last week. I'm afraid of a false flag operation on my den while I'm out! :(

well did they cut all powere to security cameras?

btw..the towers already had high end internet cabling

Martin 04-13-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247239)

I like the old lady at the end..lol

WarChild 04-13-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247282)
well did they cut all powere to security cameras?

btw..the towers already had high end internet cabling

Not to worry, we have removed all networking capability from the Battlestar WarChild just to be safe. Wait a second, Dreidus hit!

ACTION STATIONS! ACTION STATIONS! SET CONDITION 1 THROUGHOUT THE SHIP.

Launch the alert Rottweilers!

scottybuzz 04-13-2007 08:39 AM

pheonix stfu u dumb cunt. instead of researching this bollocks on youtube, do your own reserch instead of piggybacking on some 18 year old.

Mr Steele 04-13-2007 08:41 AM

Paul Laffoley, one of the guys who designed and worked on building the original WTC's for 18 months, claims that there were explosives originally built into the buildings due to the fact that so many buildings were going up and down in those days.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/03/356342.shtml

uno 04-13-2007 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12247160)
The official story is that the fires caused the collapse, not the initial collision. But you know that, you're an expert on the subject.

Isn't the official conclusion a combination of both?

uno 04-13-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 12247166)
do some research you twit..there are many instances of fires burning much hotter and for much longer and no buildings fell.

The WTC had a pretty unique design.


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