Einstein Slams 12clicks!!!!!!!
 

Hello, this is Albert Einstein and I have stolen the log in from that idiot "Sortie". I will use his screen name because I don't want the language I'm going to use on 12clicks to be associated with my legacy.


Now, on to it!

Fuck you 12clicks! Your ice cream knowledge is garbage and how dare you insult my research on time travel.

Let me explain:

Consider that the star you see in the sky tonight is 10 light years away.
You are therefore seeing this star light as it appeared 10 years ago.
If you magnify this light you would see the activity on that star that happened 10 years ago.

So just reverse this scenario and put yourself on that star looking back at earth. You would then magnify the light from earth and see the activity on the surface that occured 10 years ago.

But what good does it do for you to travel to this star at a rate where it would take you 10000000 years to get there? None...because you would only see light that was 10 years old and thus not see in the past of when you left earth, which was 10000000 years ago!!!! In other words, you would only see light from earth that occured after you left earth and not before you left earth.
It is the light that occured before you left earth that allows you to see into the past.

But if you traveled to that star slightly faster than the speed of light then you would get to this star just in time to see the light before you left earth.

Summary:

In order for you to see what happened on earth yesterday you would need to travel to a location in space that is 24 hour's light distance away and get there before the actual light from 24 hours ago reaches that location.
Which means you would have to travel faster than the speed of light.



Now, I will go get my own ice cream and eat it faster than the speed of melting so that I willl not have to whine about that past oppotunity to have eaten it in its full state.

BTW: I'm loging off so that the real "Sortie" can log in.

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i agree with 12clicks less than 20% of the time, but i have to say your post seems pretty pathetic

"how dare you insult my knowledge on time travel" thats one for the books

Can't you read? Einstein stole my login!!! I personaly agree with 12clicks.
It's this fucking Einstein dude who's stealing my screen name and staring shit with 12clicks.

I have to change my login.

what's up please ?

Don't screw with Einstein.

I'll applaud the day when anyone who posts on GFY wins a nobel prize and continues to post on GFY.

That'll be a special day, indeed.

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erm, theres something wrong with that, but I can't figure out what...

have you ran it through lorentz?

again, you confuse the perception of *is* with the reality of *is*

Einstein hung around the patent office and swiped people's ideas after distracting them.

I saw it in a commercial on TV, so it's true.

E=MC2 my ass. :D

Right so.

A ball dropped on earth 24 hours ago. This was in reference fram S. You're moving away from the Earth (or the earth is moving away from you) at near c and so your frame of refernce is S' (that is, a second co-ordinate system, basically just means "everythings relative" :) )

So you have two events, the ball been released, and the ball hitting the floor. Due to th Lorentz transformation, the time period between the two events in YOUR frame of references, S', will always be greater than the time period between the two events in the "proper" frame of reference, S.

Therefore you wouldn't see into the past ever, you would be observing the event in slow motion. (e.g. man on earth sees ball take 5 seconds to drop, you see it taking 5000 seconds to drop)

Time Dilation

IF it was theoretically possible for you to be travveling at above c then the incorrect math (i.e. using my generalised principles) would indeed follow through that

(delta)T=(negative)(delta)T_proper

That is if the events occured 5 seconds apart, you would observe them -5 seconds apart.

HOWEVER someone far smarter than me took it back to first principles, fixed it, and once again showed that speed above c was impossible and therefore these negative numbers didn't occur.

so you ADMIT that I'm right.

I admit that if you couldn't do math correctly, I understand how you would have arrived at your incorrect conculsion ;)

The negative comes as you have....

(gamma)= 1/ SQRT( 1 - (v/c))

Where v is your velocity, c is lightspeed.

(delta)T=(gamma)(delta)T_proper

As you can see, placing a value of v greater than c gives a factor of i (imaginary) which if you keep in there and then square out, gives a negative. It would also mean that the greater proportion of c you travelled above, the further backwards the precognition would occurr.

However as I said, this relies on generalisations of the Lorentx Theorem :) The math that would follow through for a value of v greater than c goes back to principles and coms out in fucking insane algebra.

or put a different way, there is no such thing as time travel. Because of our reliance on inaccurate math, we've not been able to back up the obvious mathimatically. :thumbsup

This has a Taoist ring to it :)

Time Dilation has been proven with atomic clocks.

Nothing can go faster then c but time slows down as you approach the speed of light.


Twin paradox.

It has nothing to do with going faster then light because that is impossible

Ok, who put rum in the icecream?

You say that as if there is no nobel prize for porn.

Geezze!!!!

hahahaha.... :)

Nah... I'm just saying it because it's GFY.

Sure there's some people on this board with smarts.
Sure there's some people on this board with money.

Fact is, there's a bunch of dipshits out there in the world: Dipshits who earned money because they led dipshit sheep and those other dipshits who were the sheep.

In the case of this thread, you have a bunch of dipshits; a few leader dipshits and then mostly just sheep, all talking about shit that if they really knew anything about what they were talking about wouldn't be posting on this board.

Tao, Clinton, either one. :winkwink:

R.I.P. Sortie.

lmao. there's a relevant question.

are you trying to get me to say I want to splash chocolate syrup across your bare breasts?

of course not old man with a heart like yours. you can barely play softball. btw, their real and their fabulous. :winkwink:

<-- thinks they're fabulous too :thumbsup

this thread is far too intellectual for GFY, can we please go back "would ya hit it?" threads!

hahaha - thanks Z.

I think Lu and I just worked it back to there.

Yes, theory of relativity says that if you travel faster than the speed of light, you go back in time.

simple as that

all you have to do is get in a space shuttle and turn around the earth many times faster than the speed of light, and then come back to earth

show some pics......

Special relativity specifically prohibits acceleration to faster than the speed of light.

only because the associated theories don't work then. :winkwink: