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Deej 04-26-2007 11:49 AM

Hurt - Reznor, Cash or Kermit?
 
I know its been posted, I dont care, but it ran by me again today and I found the kermit version. THAT I never seen...i found it to be pure blasphemy towards jim henson :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Cash - https://youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU

Reznor - https://youtube.com/watch?v=_y8MZd-GtN0

Kermit - https://youtube.com/watch?v=AO9dbmJ_2zU

A great song by any means... Reznor created it, his version and theatrics are superb... but Cash OWNED it!

Whats your thoughts?

Sly 04-26-2007 11:55 AM

I like the Cash version best. Kind of makes you sad. Reznors doesn't do anything for me.

King Adam 04-26-2007 11:56 AM

Reznor. Saw it live in concert. It was sick.

VanessaGT 04-26-2007 11:56 AM

William Shatner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stickyfingerz 04-26-2007 12:02 PM

You gave wrong linkage for Kermit..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM :winkwink:

Sarah_Jayne 04-26-2007 12:08 PM

All three sing a version but each version is a totally different song.

Deej 04-26-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12316692)
You gave wrong linkage for Kermit..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uLQRv0RjBBM :winkwink:

Good catch, thanks


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 12316735)
All three sing a version but each version is a totally different song.

Sort of, they only change a word or two, such as shit to thorns and some change in theatrics, but its all the same pain in the end...

93sc 04-26-2007 01:01 PM

Reznor was there when Cash recored his cover. Reznor said he would never listen to his own version again.

flashfire 04-26-2007 01:06 PM

lol kermit

evildick 04-26-2007 01:12 PM

Jeez, that kermit video is awesome. The blowjob near the end is kinda pushing it. Someone put a lot of work into that. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

Sarah_Jayne 04-26-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 12317039)
Good catch, thanks



Sort of, they only change a word or two, such as shit to thorns and some change in theatrics, but its all the same pain in the end...



I disagree..take kermit out of it....the other two are both pain but they aren't the same pain...different song. Which shows the strength of them both as artists for making it their own. I seriously can not watch the video version of the Cash one and will leave the room if it comes on because it is just so powerful.

candyflip 04-26-2007 01:22 PM

That Kermit video is genius.

Deej 04-26-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93sc (Post 12317097)
Reznor was there when Cash recored his cover. Reznor said he would never listen to his own version again.

Correct, Before the Cash video was released a copy was given to Reznor while he was in his studio recording with (dont remember who, but a famous friend) and he viewed it. He left his studio in tears and said he dosnt consider it his song any longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 12317243)
I disagree..take kermit out of it....the other two are both pain but they aren't the same pain...different song. Which shows the strength of them both as artists for making it their own. I seriously can not watch the video version of the Cash one and will leave the room if it comes on because it is just so powerful.

Right, of course the kermit one is a spoof. And yes they are different songs in how they ae told, agreed...But the pain in the end is the same... memories and let downs, but still overcoming...

and yes... the cash version IS powerful... i hits a chord with me as well, but i dont leave i sit there and embrace the song and video...to each their own :)

different experiences impact us on how he acept this video...

Deej 04-26-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 12317270)
That Kermit video is genius.

I thought it was cool up until he started blowing fozy bear....that was just horrible

Owen22 04-26-2007 01:36 PM

I always loved the NIN version, but the first time I heard the Cash version - it brought a tear to my eye.
I think Cash took over that song.

I dont know what to day about the Kermit verzion.

Tim 04-27-2007 04:10 AM

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Jim Henson Company, Inc.

TG Rebecca 04-27-2007 06:39 AM

i think i am the only person on the planet who isn't crazy about the johnny cash version. i love johnny cash but yeah.. didn't care for his cover of hurt.

nikooo 04-27-2007 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 12320288)
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by The Jim Henson Company, Inc.

:( :Oh crap

evildick 04-27-2007 07:36 AM

Another link for the people that never got to see Kermit. (warning - popups)

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1750777

Mutt 04-27-2007 07:49 AM

Kermit version is the best - making somebody laugh is a much harder thing to do than making somebody sad. could have done a better job with Kermit's voice though.

as for copyright infringing, it's satire, which makes it exempt - see underground cartoonist Robert Crumb's victory defending himself against Walt Disney.

bopha 04-27-2007 07:52 AM

I agree. Trent Reznor's concert version was hard to watch. I do like his version, but I really felt Johnny's. I believe Johnny Cash lived it.

fuzebox 04-27-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 12317277)
Correct, Before the Cash video was released a copy was given to Reznor while he was in his studio recording with (dont remember who, but a famous friend) and he viewed it. He left his studio in tears and said he dosnt consider it his song any longer.

It was Zack de la Rocha :)

I personally prefer the Reznor version and not just because I'm a NIN fan... it just seems grittier, really bites deep for me.

The Cash version is excellent, but it's really a different kind of song for me.

teg0 04-27-2007 08:02 AM

Reznor because its his song. Thats like saying whats better? Van Gogh's Starry Night or a recreation of Starry Night that has a different color scheme. Cash's version is great and it really fucked up a lot country fans to find out that it wasn't written by him because its pretty fitting. If it wasn't for the fact that it was his last video I think people wouldn't claim to like Cash's version so much.

teg0 04-27-2007 08:06 AM

"This resonates so much more because it was filmed right before Kermit's death."

lol

RawAlex 04-27-2007 08:07 AM

Being a little older (but a huge NIN fan) I would have to say that the Cash version gets my vote. I have seen probably 6 or 7 version done by NIN, and each one is good... but...

Cash put more emotion into it. You listen to him and you can truly feel the pain, feel the agony (most days at that point of his life, the man could barely talk, let alone sing... but Rick Ruben waited patiently for the good days and recorded some amazing songs).

In the video you can see his wife, June Carter Cash. They were married for a long, long time (35 years, an eternity in the music business). When she died in May 2003, everyone knew it wasn't long. In September 2003, Johnny was gone as well.

Hurt showed a once powerful man, the very rough and tough Man in Black reduced to a worn out husk, yet still full of definance, grit, and determination, even as his body was failing him. A true classic.

JaneB 04-27-2007 03:28 PM

I like Trent Reznor's better. I believe he would make you hurt. Plus I saw him in concert and he rocks that song so well. Johnny Cash's is good, but it will never be better then the original.

crockett 04-27-2007 03:44 PM

I like both versions but JC's version carries more feel and weight to it. Even Trent Reznor said he wrote the song but after Johnny Cash covered it, the song was now his.

I like finding good cover songs on youtube and a while back I found two pretty good covers of hurt.

Chick on a piano
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3q6ZUuY_ajU

and a dude with a guitar
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMvzfrns7Xg


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