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bigOh 05-17-2007 07:16 AM

just got stiffed for $150
 
So here what happened.
I installed a CMS (joomla!) for one of
my clients. (I also customized a template for him.) The
price we agreed on was $300US. I requested 50% retainer
and the balance upon completion of all said work. All
went well. And all work was done. but when i requested
the balance the client did not want to pay. He began to
try and make deals with me to get around paying the
balance. He said thing like, " well i will send you some
clients", or " well lets add more thing to the site and
then you be done", hinting at things the were outside of
the scope of the original project. So 1 year or more has
past and this person still has not sent my payment. he
has since ignored my email & calls. In a desperate
attempt to get his attention i turned off the site (through the cms cpanel). This did get his attention but still did not sway him to send
my final payment. And I just noticed the bastard has taken down the
link back to my site. Normally i would just chalk this up
as a loss but i cant seem to let this one go. I feel
like he just flipped me off and I am enraged. I feel he needs to learn to pay his debts. its really not the money at this point its the principal.
i mean 150 is not a "whole" lot but still, ya know?
I wish I new some RU hackerscum that i could unleash on his site.
So what do you guys think? What should I do?

Juicy D. Links 05-17-2007 07:17 AM

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

superdio 05-17-2007 07:22 AM

This happends all the time, you have to show screenshots, not deliver the working product until full payment.

he-fox 05-17-2007 07:22 AM

Name the name and move forward.

Damian_Maxcash 05-17-2007 07:24 AM

Its a major problem for all of us on the net......

You don't want to ask for escrow because it instantly says you don't trust the client and is a bad start to a business relationship. You just have to take it as part of your business expenses :(

bigOh 05-17-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12446831)
Name the name and move forward.

huh? what?

Chris 05-17-2007 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12446807)
not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

send me 10k and i will never give it back
we can have on going drama and get mad views for years

ya digg?

Murderous 05-17-2007 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12446807)
not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

Following Lars' stock tips???

Screaming 05-17-2007 07:40 AM

it happens.....

Tom_PM 05-17-2007 07:43 AM

Karma will take $150 worth out of their hide eventually.

fallenmuffin 05-17-2007 07:43 AM

joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

who 05-17-2007 07:44 AM

You wanted $300 for installing joomla? :)

jayeff 05-17-2007 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 12446931)
You wanted $300 for installing joomla? :)

Which has what to do with the price of eggs? In any case, reading the post might not hurt - "I also customized a template for him" - then you wouldn't be quite so obviously rushing to whore your sig...

who 05-17-2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 12446954)
Which has what to do with the price of eggs? In any case, reading the post might not hurt - "I also customized a template for him" - then you wouldn't be quite so obviously rushing to whore your sig...

:) Well for such a small amount you probably should've asked to be paid in full upfront.

LiveDose 05-17-2007 07:59 AM

Just post his name and chalk it up as lesson to get 100% down before dealing with people in this industry. This kind of bs happens with assholes in mainstream as well btw...

Farang 05-17-2007 08:02 AM

that's not good...

bigOh 05-17-2007 08:19 AM

actually this was a mainstream client.
i feel like saving 2week worth of my kids shitty diapers and usps'ing them to his house. or i could post the domain and the whois but that wont to anything but send him more traffic. i even thought of posting some kind of ad with his address on craigslist. like "sat 5/19/07 free wigets and discounts on wobblys!"
lol that would be fun

who 05-17-2007 08:22 AM

Pay him a vist, and take a hefty friend along with you.

Nifty Themes 05-17-2007 08:27 AM

In non payment situations I will shut down the site and remove all the files after taking a backup copy. Usually people who don't pay aren't smart enough to either delete access to the script admin / ftp / mysql at the same time.

Randyyy 05-17-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12446807)
not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

fuck that, anyone screws for that much and i hunt them down!!

bigOh 05-17-2007 09:03 AM

Jesse Bernal
jcscorp.net
JSCONSULTINGANDSOLUTIONS.COM

Registrant:
J's Consulting & Solutions
241 W. Whiting Ave
#3
Fullerton, CA 92832
US

Domain Name: JCSCORP.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
J's Consulting & Solutions

241 W. Whiting Ave
#3
Fullerton, CA 92832
US
714-222-0356
714-926-4159


Record expires on 23-Mar-2008.
Record created on 23-Mar-2006.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.HOSTINGLA.COM 216.180.252.142
NS0.HOSTINGLA.COM 216.180.252.174

please forward all you left over horse / pig heads to the above address

woj 05-17-2007 09:31 AM

don't feel alone on this, we've all been fucked in the past...

montrealpornking 05-17-2007 09:37 AM

take him to small claims court or put up a microsite for everything to know what this guy did to you so when they look up his company's name your micro site might come up letting people know the type of business this guy does.
this in itself might encourage him to pay you the 150 to get rid of bad publicity.

bigOh 05-17-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montrealpornking (Post 12447478)
take him to small claims court or put up a microsite for everything to know what this guy did to you so when they look up his company's name your micro site might come up letting people know the type of business this guy does.
this in itself might encourage him to pay you the 150 to get rid of bad publicity.

you my good man are a phucking GENIOUS!

thanks for the idea!:thumbsup

bigOh 05-17-2007 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin (Post 12446926)
joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

you also sir

thanks!

:thumbsup

VicD 05-17-2007 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12446807)
not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

You got that right... :thumbsup

bigOh 05-19-2007 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin (Post 12446926)
joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

well i used your suggestion. I posted my job. and it was done in just under 3 hrs!
the guy actually did the work before i chose his bid on the job. and guess what it cost me....

$30 bucks!

Now if the jackass is smart he my have a backup of his data but, it is still proof of concept that anyone can be touched. for the right price.

(lol sounds like some ish out of a sopranos episode.)

anyways thanks again for the tip fallenmuffin

FreakinWebmaster 05-19-2007 09:19 PM

I have full contracts before I do any work before a job... You live and learn.


I pretty much host all of my clients sites that I design, if I dont receive full payment within 30 days of a due invoice, I give them 30 days extra to at least make payment arrangements, if they fail to comply, I take down their site and all the files until payment is paid... Ever since I put this into effect, I have gotten every payment. It's really built on trust, I can pretty much tell right away which kind of people are going to be a pain in the ass. And I jack the price up, when I sence these types of people as well. :)



Good Luck!

tehHinjew 05-19-2007 10:17 PM

i sent his company anthraxxx

en21 05-19-2007 11:53 PM

not worth your time dude

seeandsee 05-20-2007 04:01 AM

Ouch! Learn PHP bombing, when they odn't pay just destroy their site!

DWB 05-20-2007 05:22 AM

I have sent out a team of ninja assassin ladyboys to kill him. Thank me later.

Violetta 05-20-2007 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 12459757)
I have sent out a team of ninja assassin ladyboys to kill him. Thank me later.

oh... that means trouble! :)

tenderobject 05-20-2007 06:19 AM

is this zuzanadesigns? lol deja vuh! hahahaha

k0nr4d 05-20-2007 01:17 PM

I've been burned before for around $500 too.
What I do now to prevent it is I take the 50% upfront, develop everything on my own server, and then upon completion I get the rest and send them the files.

Works great because theres no trust issues. If I already have the code done they don't worry about paying me and me disappearing without sending them an email with the code.

The only time i develop on a clients server is for affiliate programs, and that's only for larger programs.

k0nr4d 05-20-2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 12459625)
Ouch! Learn PHP bombing, when they odn't pay just destroy their site!

What exactly is 'php bombing'?

pornguy 05-20-2007 01:37 PM

Its sad that you have to now have a ref, just to get work done.

fetishHIT 05-20-2007 01:41 PM

leave it, spend your time at making sites and earn your self those 150's easy.


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