Chuck Liddell ... who DIDN'T see this coming?
 

Anyone disagree with the ref's decision to end the bout? Rampage has agreed to fight Chuck again if anyone disputes the call.

he was out. he would have broke his cranium with those blows.

he looked a little soft to me? A few extra sixers perhaps? :upsidedow

I thougt Chuck was outmatched from the start, but in this bout he didn't seem himself.

It was a good call by the ref to stop it. Chuck was on his back and defenseless when he took a serious blow to the head. He would have be knocked unconscious had it continued.

Well, I didn't see it coming. lol

chuck was out, rampage would have done a number on his face if it wasnt stopped...i presume the rematch is more about money than an unfair decision

Fuck that shit! Can't wait for a rematch. Chuck was out, but that was a terrible fight. An early mistake and it was over. I'd like to see an actual battle, not a lucky circumstancial win... ;(

I think the early mistake was Chuck agreeing to this fight

chuck flattened out and the Ref saw it, its a justifiable decision for me...

Jackson has Lidell's number. Future bouts will play out the same... Very similar to how RJJ couldn't do anything except run from Tarver.

Was it me or did Chuck look like he was a little out of shape. Not that it would have helped him survive that punch, but I wonder if Chuck took Rampage a little too lightly and didn't train and focus as hard as he could have.

i agree with ya there..that was more like a lucky punch, they'll definitely fight again soon!

Chuck was out, good stoppage by the ref, as Joe Rogan always says. Karo Parisyan looked great in his bout, that was the fight of the night.

he was out and it should have been stopped

Chuck always has a bit of a belly. It's just his body type. as for the punch .. That's not luck. Chuck expected him to cover up when hit and instead he kept his cool and laid a shot on his chin. That's what he's trained to do. counter punch .. most guys are so afraid to get hit by chuck that they cover up and run for cover.

soon as chucks arms went down it was stopped
who does he think he is .. Rocky Balboa

Rules state the fight is stopped when you stop defending yourself

Chuck was as limp as overcooked spaghetti. There is no question. If the ref let go after that he shoulda been fired. Good call.

Lucky punch and bad call from Big John, oh kinda ironic he was also the ref in the first match that ended by ref stoppage isn't it. I am however glad that ref's do stop fights when they feel the fighter may be in a bad position but then again chuck did go 1.5 rounds last time with rampage thats 15 minutes for those who never seen a PRIDE fight, and he did get his hands back up after flattening as the ref pulled him off so whos to say what would have happened but i think the rematch will be a great fight. I hate to see any championship fight end like that.

good call to end it.. Chuck was smoked like a cheap cigar.

i guess some of you forgot about this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzqSWiSyewo

liddell didnt stand a chance against someone like rampage

fight should have never happened

It was a good stoppage. With that fight it was first to land a clean shot was getting the win. Rampage got the first clean shot in this fight.

in case you guys forgot who rampage is

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi-OOobrs30

Chuck, obviously.

If he did he would have ducked. :D

I think it was a setup by dana white the whole thing reminded me of a certian shamrock/franklin fight that went exactly the same way. they may be hitting each other for real but if you think they dont know whos winning the match before it starts you probably still watch wrestling.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/Shinr...ton-jacks.aspx

You may wanna watch this again. His arms and legs flattened completely out. This happens when you are losing consciousness, therefore he cannot defend. Period... that's out. Anything after that was pure instinct. Chuck was done.

And Lucky punch my ass, look Rampages form, constantly moving his arms to protect his head depending on his position, Liddell had his hands near at his sides, Rampage took advantage of a known hole in Liddells game and made him pay for it. Lucky Punch...:1orglaugh

Oh i don't gotta watch it again i saw it saturday night. Also I stated my opinion and that is what it is, if you do not like it do not read it, sounds simple doesn't it.

nobody would choose, agree to or be paid to take those unprotected shots that liddell took after he fell to the mat. too risky.

It made me sad in the pants.

rampage has beat this sissy before see my post above from their 2003 fight

We printed out like 500 shirts for the iceman...

Chuck's body went to sleep for a second, thats enough for the ref to stop the fight. Dont forget, rampage is allowed elbowing his opponent, thats exactly what would have taken place had the ref not stopped the fight.

your telling me for a 6 figures you wouldnt let someone punch your face in when there is a ref there to keep you from being seriously hurt your insane:winkwink:

im a chuck fan and he just got knocked the fuck out. he doesn't match up well with rampage because chuck likes to stay on the outside and poke around picking spots. rampage keeps coming forward making chuck move more then he likes. then if chuck tries to throw some shots rampage starts to exchange with him unlike most fighters. rampage just has his number and i think if they had another rematch there would be a similar outcome.

Bad call? I guess you missed the part where Liddell was grabbing for Rampage's legs when he was already about 10ft. away. Or when he turn to his trainer and asked "What happened?" because he didn't know. Yeah, bad call.... :1orglaugh

Wasn't a lucky punch either. Counter right hook to a left to the body is classic boxing.

Chopperboy = Clueless

Lance69 = Trained MMA Fighter

Your opinion really doesn't hold much water.

So you can look like you have a clue when it comes to fighting, I posted this in another thread. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=736807

Everyone is entitled their opinion. But if your gonna post on a public forum then expect some feedback. :2 cents:

Great Quote Anthony.

Anthony is on point as usual, but let me add a couple of things.

Chuck is a counterpuncher with lateral movements that give most guys fits, like Couture, because they're straight punchers that move backwards and forwards. The key to that KO punch by Rampage is that it was a right HOOK, which is the perfect response to lateral movement. First time Chuck had fought somebody with a good boxing hook since, oh, Rampage in '04 and he never saw that punch coming.

Here's a question for you long time MMA junkies:

Who thinks Anderson Silva could take out Rampage? I think he could.

Cheers.

I have been a fan of MMA from the beginning. I am happy it's finally become mainstream.

With that, you get people like Chipper boy who doesn't spouts off facts like nothing, but is totally wrong about each one.

No, Jon McCarthy was not the ref in their first fight, it was a short Japanese fellow, I can see how you made the mistake. :1orglaugh

It wasn't even in the same Org, how Chipper managed to miss the fact the first fight was in a ring, and the UFC is in a cage is beyond me.

But hey, he's entitled to his own opinions, even when wrong.

Why not, the whole Chute Boxe team should all have a turn on him. Even former members. :)

The two major losses for Rampage have been by really good Muay Thai guys. Wanderlai Silva and Shogun. Both took Ramapage's game apart with their knees.

It's getting them to meet at a weight that's the key. :thumbsup

Oh, and in response to the original topic - Chuck always looks a little out of shape. A lot of people are saying they saw it coming, but every fighter gets caught eventually and Chuck was dominating top competition for many years.

I didn't see that coming..at all

And the stoppage was good, Chuck was done

We will just have to see who the better fighter is if and when there is a rematch won't we. And as far as you saying someone is clueless versus a trained MMA fighter's opinion well that is your opinion. The bottom line is either way right or wrong the fans got ripped off. I hope there is a rematch and maybe chuck is getting to be the next shamrock (lotsa glass in the jaw) who knows? everyday a new fighter is born and evrday another is one day closer to retirement.

Yeah, I'm picturing an A-B-C type thing if Silva and Shogun join the mix. Rampage will always have the advantage on Chuck, Silva/Shogun can take it to Rampage, and Chuck would be my favorite over the shootabox boys.


I was checking out a ChuteBoxe video yesterday that was showing elbows from the guard. I can't wait till those guys are in the cage.

The fight sucked, I mean it wasn't much of a fight a few hits from Rampage and that was it....

Chuck was out, (laid out flat for a few sec's) and ref made a good call, but damn, like I said not much of a fight...

I'd really like to see 'em go at it for a few rounds in a rematch

I don't know why I'm even responding to you, but if Dana thought Rampage was gonna win he would have given him more lead up fights. The worse possible thing happened from a marketing standpoint in that they lost their posterboy champion to a relative new-comer.

The fans got ripped off? Both fighters stepped into that cage, one got knocked the fuck out. Who got ripped off?

As for Lance knowing more than you, he described what happened exactly how it went down, you described what you thought you saw, which was wrong. Nothing to be ashamed of, you are just new. But stating your opinion as fact, that's wrong.

Rampage was an animal, unfortunately I think Chuck is done.

chuck will rock him next time around. hes gotten a lot better since the 1st fight. i think chuck fucked up and rampage did what he shouldve and knocked his ass out. Clean win, no questions asked. But.... i still think chuck will rock him.

I watched the press conference after, Dana said Chuck and Wandy are going at it soon. :):):)

They may no longer hold titles anymore, but who gives a fuck, those two need to fight!!!

I think Rampage is a world of hurt with Hendo though. :(