Are the Big TGP Boys Overrated?
 

Many in the industry seem to admire them. I mean people like thehun, shemp, tommysbookmarks, etc. But I just started thinking in this direction... are they really making that much money? They surely have the traffic numbers, the egos and the admiration of 2-sales-a-day affiliates but what about $$$ ?

I just had #1 link at one of top 10 tgps in the world. I made a grand total of 1 sale. So this got me thinking.. So maybe these guys are making $5k per month, maybe $10K, maybe $15-20K... but more than that? Really doubt it. TGPs seem to be big bandwidth wasting machines.. and the actual $ return from them does not seem to be that high at all.

What do you think?

they sell the links, even if you had 1 sale, you still paid like $300 for that link

and you aren't the only one buying these spots

theirs so much more productive traffic than tgp, and much cheaper

that about sums it up....

And there must be a reason why the Hun owner has 10 + million euro :)

the Shemp makes 1k before lunch

I have no doubt they do well.

Although the Shemp is a pioneer in this industry, I do not think I would even put him remotely close to the same level as the hun, worldsex, sleazy, tommy's, etc.

I have very high respect for Shemp, so I hope people do not take this the wrong way. I just don't think he has near the traffic numbers of some of those guys anymore. And on top of that he skims which will always lower productivity no matter how you look at it. :2 cents:

Im not a TGP guy or a gallery guy....
But....1 sale ? :disgust
Try promoting a different niche , i always at least get 4 for 5 from the The Hun , even when it is a shitty gallery and i dont waste much time with trying to sell it with good text or decnt images or vids.

What niche were you trying to promote - how much was the sites membership ?

Yep, that's pretty much how they make their living.

:thumbsup

i'm sure they are ok....

OK, suppose that my gallery was below average. But even then.. 1 sale? From #1 link on one of the top 10 tgps? That just gives you an indication of how many sales these "big-time" tgps are doing. SALES - NOT TRAFFIC!

Sounds like you need re-tool what you are selling... We recently had 3 listings on the Hun netted a total of 72sales on a new site we were testing... :pimp

take it easy bro, i bought a new p/u truck this year...thats all that really counts.....

...a point of clarification....i only skim a little on the archives, its my payback for still having free submit accounts...there is no skim on the main TGP page...

Anyone who says a bad word about Shemp has to answer to me.:ticking

thanks PW...i dont know who walrus is, but he could be from Bromasters, so i have to be careful what i say....

a truck.. plz

i think shemp can produces lots of traffic and sales...

but i guess there not accept free accounts :(

okay, well i do own a house too....

http://www.shemp.com/house.jpg

LOL
Couldn't afford the lake to go with it Shemp? :winkwink:

I like your house! I want to come visit!

global warming has evaporated all the water ...

Let's do the maths for Hun:

I'm not 100% sure of the right prices but the final result is not so far from the reality...

1st spot= $650 * 30 = 19,500
1 banner=$250 * 30 = 7,500
Spot 2 to 5, 10 links= 3,000*3 (30 days)= 9,000
Spot 6 to 15, 10 links=2,000*3= 6,000
Spot 16 to 20, 10 links=1,500*3=4,500

I don't know about the Overflow, so you may add some more bucks, and I don"t know if he has his own gals posted...

So, at least, it makes $46,500 per month...

At least... I'm sure he makes a lot more...

Just another example of big business sticking it to the little guy!

you my sir are an idiot, funny, but still an idiot.

There seems to be a rather large mostly naked dude pounding on the wall of your house. Or is he pushing? Are you moving? :1orglaugh

he is waiting to use the bathroom, we got indoor plumbing last year ...:thumbsup

Reread what I said please. I would never rip on someone that has been around or as long as you. Quality doesn't mean volume. You have quality, just not massive volume. The hun has volume. With volume comes suckers. Understand what I mean? ...clarification, congrats on the P/U - you deserve it more than anyone does.

How have you been feeling healthwise btw?

Well for starters.. hun is much bigger than than the others in the top 10. So he's not an indication but rather an exception. Hun does 100M uniques / month. OK?

thanks for asking....im pretty much the same as i was a couple of years ago...i am never going to return to good health and i have to be satified that i am alive and can still work a few hours each day... :)

Wanna back that up with some semblance of reasoning? Or you all you can is kindergarten insults? I see you run a TGP.. my guess is you dont make jack shit off it. Am I wrong? Is it jack shit and $2?

they are making a nice profit off selling spots thats for sure

Shemp has great traffic and you can't tell shit from one listing on any tgp or any traffic source. A true test of how well your gallery does is over time. I could stop working right now and a lot of my bills would be paid for a long time from the rebills I get from shemps traffic.

hot air? this industry? nahhhhhhhh

you got a good memory ;)

Correct.

Someone should notify The Leader about this thread

Just because you couldn't sell to that site's traffic doesn't mean it isn't worth infinitely more than what you made from it.

Also don't confuse the "big" new thumb tgp's who say they have X-million hits a day with the old school sites like The Hun, Worldsex, AL4A, etc etc.
You're talking about two totally different types of traffic there.
English speaking bookmark traffic is pure gold. :2 cents:

the Leader would be shocked by the suggestion that the Hun doesnt make more than 20k a month ....as for me, if i have half/n/half for my coffee, im happy...

eurabia,
Here are some of the factors that could have affected your results:

1) which site were you were listed on
2) what sponsor/site were you promoting
3) was anyone else promoting the same sponsor
4) was there a banner for the same site above you
5) how new was the content
6) was the same content/set listed in the past week
7) how stimulating was the template
8) was your call-to-action clear/catchy

I can tell you there are people that spent thousands and made nothing - and there are others that have it down pat like a science.

Test, track, tweak, perfect - try again