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JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES 06-21-2007 11:19 PM

PhP Programmers what development app do you use?
 
I's been trying to PHP Designer 2007, but i don't like the ftp integration. i don't want to have to upload a file to see every single change.

Masterchief 06-21-2007 11:21 PM

editplus, it's probably not the best but i'm just too used to it. after using it for 5-6 years its just too hard to get a feel for anything else.

Pete-KT 06-21-2007 11:23 PM

i use notepad and then test it with IE

pornask 06-21-2007 11:23 PM

PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.

NickSunshine 06-21-2007 11:29 PM

i use notepad, sometimes dreamweaver.
depends on whether im in the mood for highlighted code or not.

took a long time to get used to anything but notepad tho.
don't think i will ever stop.
sometimes i think code is easier to look at in black and white.

vas 06-21-2007 11:32 PM

i use ultraedit combined with dreamweaver.. :)

munki 06-21-2007 11:33 PM

I use dreamweaver pretty much strictly... with notepad as a quick backup for direct server file changes.

tical 06-21-2007 11:39 PM

homesite

Nails 06-21-2007 11:46 PM

Real programmers use VI

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES 06-21-2007 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 12639247)
PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.



i understand this, but i just want to push a button that uploads the file i'm working on to a pre-configured ftp site. i don't want to go to an ftp client every time i make a quick adjustment to a table. i know that php designer is supposed to provide this, but it sucks. dreamweaver seems to completely assrape your development environment.

acctman 06-21-2007 11:50 PM

real programmers go old school... 1's and 0's punch cards

noam 06-21-2007 11:58 PM

I use editplus, and VMware for my dev environment.

I have 1 image with is a LAMP Ubuntu server with SAMBA so I don't need to mess with FTP and can just edit the files directly in editplus.

I have a second image with Windows xp with IE6 (I have IE7 on my parent OS) and Firefox for testing cross-browser compatibility.

But then again I don't write much code anymore. I spend most of my time throwing money around.

Swish 06-22-2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails (Post 12639346)
Real programmers use VI

Damn straight! :thumbsup

k0nr4d 06-22-2007 02:00 AM

i use dreamweaver strictly

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES 06-22-2007 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 12639763)
i use dreamweaver strictly

i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?

k0nr4d 06-22-2007 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES (Post 12639787)
i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?

not really. I just use it because im too lazy to type out table structures manually and It matters to me what my admin areas/etc look like, so i like to switch back and force from design to code view.

footmonkey 06-22-2007 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails (Post 12639346)
Real programmers use VI

Most powerful text editor ever made!!! :2 cents:

BucksMania 06-22-2007 02:15 AM

PHPed 4 here

jmk 06-22-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails (Post 12639346)
Real programmers use VI

Damn I still envy the guys that got VI :)
Pico is ok for me, I know I suck.

HomerSimpson 06-22-2007 02:57 AM

I use EmEditor... it's advanced notepad that supports a lot of programin languages... I test my scripts directly on server... or I run local webserver and test it on my computer...

grumpy 06-22-2007 03:08 AM

use maguma studio, instant checking of scripts

GirlsOnYou 06-22-2007 03:52 AM

I use PSPad, it is free and great and can handle other language highlighting as well, such as html. It highlights much like FireFox's View Page Source feature.

nation-x 06-22-2007 04:02 AM

yeah... like all you people are really programmers... lol... anyway... I use notepad++ because I like the ruby blue syntax highlighting, matching brace detection, multiple file editor and user defined hotkeys...

camshake 06-22-2007 04:35 AM

dreamweaver and code-genie , code-genie for quick fix on codes or viewing codes its a replacement for notepad, i dont like notepad for its one "undo" thing , but i like dreamweaver when starting on scratch i like the code coloring

Calvinguy 06-22-2007 05:24 AM

Install apache on your local machine and test without uploading.

For programming I use notepad+

psili 06-22-2007 05:59 AM

- Local apache host and conf that mirrors as close as possible my production environment.
- Eclipse IDE to edit the files.
- Subversion to push my changes to a repository and migrate to production.

= All 100% free.

Thomas007 06-22-2007 07:02 AM

Zend Studio are the best I've seen so far.

I've used to use Ultraedit before I discovered Zend Studio.

I still use Ultraedit for quick edits.

http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio
and
http://www.ultraedit.com/


To the notepad users:
A real editor makes you more productive.

rcides 06-22-2007 07:06 AM

forget them all.

use the tool from the php company:

Zend Development Enviroment. ITS GREAT!

polle54 06-22-2007 07:10 AM

I just found a new PHP and everything else editor

It's Komodo

it's damn near perfect... it has most of what I love about Visual Studio

Code completion + parameter info, and not poorly implementet like php designer 2007.
Even auto completion on your own functions.

Debugging with attribute watchout.

It has a big support for almost any language.

It goes great with Wamp server. The latest project I had was made on my wortstation until very close to release. fucking brilliant tool.

bDok 06-22-2007 08:01 AM

Currently I use a combo of Dreamweaver, vim, and textmate. Like what other people already said about the code completion for html elements in dreamweaver. For edits and such it's vim.

Going to look into some of these other ones mentioned. Good thread. :thumbsup

u-Bob 06-22-2007 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 12640572)
It goes great with Wamp server.

What version/flavor of wamp do you use? the wampserver.com version, the inovative version?...

RichCashMike 06-22-2007 08:48 AM

In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.

Pryda 06-22-2007 08:54 AM

UltraEdit + WinSCP

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES 06-23-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichCashMike (Post 12641033)
In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.

this sounds like exactly what i'm looking for. i'll give it a look - grazie

EDepth 06-23-2007 07:20 PM

been using Zend Studio now for ages, awesome for code completion, error checking etc.. but never really liked the built in FTP, always had issues with it working correctly.

StuartD 06-23-2007 07:46 PM

I use PHP Designer 2007 because for some reason, it seems to be the best at code completion and recognizing variables/functions from included files... as well as injecting my own comments into them.

To get around the uploading though, I've installed XAMPP onto my machine. It comes with Apache, PHP4 & PHP5 and MySQL (as well as some other stuff) so everything gets tested and retested locally in real time before uploading to the server.

Aric 06-23-2007 07:46 PM

Remind me never to hire this guy.

bl4h 06-23-2007 08:05 PM

I use notepad usually out of old habit (BAD because it wastes time), but ive been trying to get used to using zend studio. It save a lot of time with formatting and autosuggesting of functions and variables

Chariott 06-23-2007 10:19 PM

NuSphere PHPed 5 (for debugging and profiling) + PHP Expert Editor 3.0 (old version because it is amazingly fast).


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