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teenfeetcash 07-29-2007 08:14 AM

SEO Expert Needed
 
Hey

I am looking for a seo expert to initially seo one of our sites, we are looking for a monthly arrangement rather than a one time SEO.

Please let me know if you are an SEO guru!

Dirty F 07-29-2007 08:15 AM

I always find that tricky. I mean an seo guru would spend time on his own sites and make 10 times more than what you pay him.

brand0n 07-29-2007 08:19 AM

seo experts dont work for others

zeruel 07-29-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12838634)
seo experts dont work for others

agree... :thumbsup

TheDoc 07-29-2007 08:34 AM

Only 1% of the SEO Experts own the product they promote and only promote that product. As soon as you promote any affiliate other products/programs you are doing the work for someone else, making someone else money from your efforts, which 99% of SEO Experts do.

And optimizing a site for the search engines just takes a guru, not an expert. Building a backlink network that won't get banned, expands, and grows takes an expect.

Cyber Fucker 07-29-2007 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12838618)
I always find that tricky. I mean an seo guru would spend time on his own sites and make 10 times more than what you pay him.

true that

scouser 07-29-2007 10:51 AM

Have to agree with whats been said, most seo experts won't do work for other people. Unless you're in a massive seo company and charge REALLY over priced amounts for small bits of work...

Vick! 07-29-2007 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12838634)
seo experts dont work for others

thats why I never sold my service :winkwink:

squizzel 07-29-2007 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12838634)
seo experts dont work for others

Just another total bullshit comment said on GFY with little / no thought. Have a medal :thumbsup There is a price on anyones expertise. And mine is about $200 per hour - 100 per hour on long term projects.

This doesnt include labour, just strategies and consultation.

hardcoreblogger 07-29-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizzel (Post 12839007)
Just another total bullshit comment said on GFY with little / no thought. Have a medal :thumbsup There is a price on anyones expertise. And mine is about $200 per hour - 100 per hour on long term projects.

This doesnt include labour, just strategies and consultation.

true experts charge much more than that

Kevsh 07-29-2007 11:18 AM

That sig has GOT to be illegal :)

TheDoc 07-29-2007 11:56 AM

So out of all the "seo experts" that have posted here, what are your prices? I charge just about $200 an hour for se 'optimizations' that's actually a little high for optimization work.

A project like this would take me about two weeks, since I have other clients too. This is about a $5,000 project, about 50 pages, about 20-30 hours of work.

How many people here can put in only 20-30 hours of work and guarantee a $5,000 return, from your own se 'optimization' efforts? Not many, if any. That's why people offer the service, it's optimization not marketing.

Klen 07-29-2007 12:01 PM

Seo optimization of site is piece of cake-it is enough to save code of first page with desired code and see how it function and that's it.

RawAlex 07-29-2007 12:14 PM

Those who can do, those who can't do it for someone else.

skillfull 07-29-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12839175)
Those who can do, those who can't do it for someone else.

untrue, i do both, for myself and for the SEO company i work for, just because it give me access to people and resource I wouln't have otherwise. And both are doing really great. I charge around 100$/hour for consulting, but I only do this if I like the project, and seriously, I'm not really in adult anymore, I prefer to do mainstream.

woj 07-29-2007 12:35 PM

those who REALLY know what they are doing, wouldn't work for someone else, at least not for $100/hr... $100/hr translates to about $200k/year, which is chump change for someone who is good at seo...

TheJimmy 07-29-2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skillfull (Post 12839199)
untrue, i do both, for myself and for the SEO company i work for, just because it give me access to people and resource I wouln't have otherwise. And both are doing really great. I charge around 100$/hour for consulting, but I only do this if I like the project, and seriously, I'm not really in adult anymore, I prefer to do mainstream.

mainstream is fun ;)

MrChips 07-29-2007 04:20 PM

NO SEO EVER sells his or her services - unless of course they are a failure.

A truly skilled programmer who is highly competent at SEO is on target for becoming a multi-millionaire.

200$ an hour - fuck that for a lark.

Hi MrChips - can I have your latest project you are using to promote some of the largest retailers with for 200 dollars per hour.

"Yeah sure - have it for free infact why dont you"

You know - some people who want seo for nothing read NOOOOOOOOOOOB

Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.

It constantly changes..

Want SEO?

Dont go to a true SEO.

;)

TheDoc 07-29-2007 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12839948)
Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.

Exactly.. SEO experts focus in one type or related types of traffic streams to create revenue. If most of us focused our efforts into one type of traffic and revenue stream, we would be saying the same thing as you.

For myself, I have created multiple revenue streams, from an affiliate program, content plugins, my own seo network, my own sites, domain buying, and a great deal of consulting for 200+ clients. Now, if I have a fail point with SEO or any other point of revenue, I don't take a kick straight in the balls because of it.

When I take on any client, at $200 an hour my hourly income increases by that much. Since I have staff, I can manage multiple clients at once. I make money playing golf, sleeping or fucking.. But think how much more I make every hour that I am behind my computer.

I made a fresh $500 today, doing a skin install. Lame labor work. Everything else, all this bullshit posting, I have gone to the park with the kids and played wii.. I took a few hours and made $500 while the kids napped.

I wonder how well the SEO guys did today while doing nothing.

squizzel 07-29-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12839132)
So out of all the "seo experts" that have posted here, what are your prices? I charge just about $200 an hour for se 'optimizations' that's actually a little high for optimization work.

A project like this would take me about two weeks, since I have other clients too. This is about a $5,000 project, about 50 pages, about 20-30 hours of work.

How many people here can put in only 20-30 hours of work and guarantee a $5,000 return, from your own se 'optimization' efforts? Not many, if any. That's why people offer the service, it's optimization not marketing.

I dont do optimization, i dont even do labor. I do strategies. That way im not wasting my time asking for paid links or fucking around with <h1> tags or other bullshit. I dont do grunt work.

squizzel 07-29-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12839948)
NO SEO EVER sells his or her services - unless of course they are a failure.

A truly skilled programmer who is highly competent at SEO is on target for becoming a multi-millionaire.

200$ an hour - fuck that for a lark.

Hi MrChips - can I have your latest project you are using to promote some of the largest retailers with for 200 dollars per hour.

"Yeah sure - have it for free infact why dont you"

You know - some people who want seo for nothing read NOOOOOOOOOOOB

Im an SEO - Ive failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right - failed at it - got it right.

It constantly changes..

Want SEO?

Dont go to a true SEO.

;)

These guys will beg to differ.

http://www.clientsidesem.com/seo-sem-services/

There are quality SEO companies. Basic SEO isnt rocket science but there is alot more to it then what people think.

squizzel 07-29-2007 07:05 PM

Seriously, the ammount of bullshit people talk on this forum infuriates me. Im sick of it. Please clue up.

tranza 07-29-2007 07:18 PM

Your sig is too big...

TheDoc 07-29-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizzel (Post 12840487)
I dont do optimization, i dont even do labor. I do strategies. That way im not wasting my time asking for paid links or fucking around with <h1> tags or other bullshit. I dont do grunt work.

Great, I have an amazing out-sourced staff that I have worked with for years. Difference is I don't train them in the art, I teach them to do the bulk work, then I have to complete a little grunt work.

But if you do no grunt work then you have the best trained seo staff, ever.. that's amazing man. :upsidedow
And how you stay up with the every growing changes and additions with never doing any labor.. even more amazing..

WiredGuy 07-29-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12840096)
I wonder how well the SEO guys did today while doing nothing.

Please refrain from encouraging the possibility of making money from SEO. Thank you :)
WG

Jace 07-29-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12840572)
Great, I have an amazing out-sourced staff that I have worked with for years. Difference is I don't train them in the art, I teach them to do the bulk work, then I have to complete a little grunt work.

But if you do no grunt work then you have the best trained seo staff, ever.. that's amazing man. :upsidedow
And how you stay up with the every growing changes and additions with never doing any labor.. even more amazing..

squizzel is amazing, didn't you know?

he is the king of seo

TheDoc 07-29-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12840645)
squizzel is amazing, didn't you know?

he is the king of seo

Now this is some funnnny shit.. Thanks Jace.


Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 12840640)
Please refrain from encouraging the possibility of making money from SEO. Thank you :)
WG

Oh yeah .. It's dead people, move along nothing to see here..

This post has been closed by the administrator.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-29-2007 09:11 PM

Hi teenfeetcash
 
I would have the time as to SEO for you, if your interested; just don't ask me to do "black SEO" because I cant stand cheats... :disgust

If you have interest in my service please email me instead of posting your remarks here...

My email address is: [email protected]

Best of luck,

.

squizzel 07-29-2007 09:14 PM

dude, this was regarding something very complex. SERVERSIDE.

Last time i checked u dont have any search engine traffic yourself and your damn sure not making what i make. All you do is fuck about with wordpress and do some onpage. Woopty doo! i dont see you ranking on the first page for free porn do i.

brand0n 07-29-2007 09:21 PM

id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

im sure he would be a key part of any team

resident seo guru posted in this thread, and youll all notice.. he didnt post an offer, or a price.. just a quirp

wonder why...

now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)

Jace 07-29-2007 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizzel (Post 12840962)
dude, this was regarding something very complex. SERVERSIDE.

Last time i checked u dont have any search engine traffic yourself and your damn sure not making what i make. All you do is fuck about with wordpress and do some onpage. Woopty doo! i dont see you ranking on the first page for free porn do i.

I have no clue who are you are talking to, but if it is me

I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also

btw, did you even look at my reply, I quoted 2 threads there....the second was the funny one, not the first

and WHY THE FUCK would I want to be on page one of google for free porn, that isn't even something I aim for in the worst of times

Jace 07-29-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12840983)
id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

im sure he would be a key part of any team

now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jace 07-29-2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12840983)
id defently hire squizzel.. .right after he got done beating up lightspeeds staff...

im sure he would be a key part of any team

resident seo guru posted in this thread, and youll all notice.. he didnt post an offer, or a price.. just a quirp

wonder why...

now squizzel, dont you have some people to beat up or something? (boohoohahah)

btw, yo fool

we are going to be planning a trip here soon - http://www.google.com/maps?q=Wilming...oc=addr&om =1 - wanna meet us and hang out?

it is one of the towns we are investigating moving to.....we heard it is a great place with a kickass beach

brand0n 07-29-2007 09:32 PM

nice spot defently, and when? i mean dude im so busy i cant make internext, but fuck do i need a break

lmk the details

Jace 07-29-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12841021)
nice spot defently, and when? i mean dude im so busy i cant make internext, but fuck do i need a break

lmk the details

probably mid to late september, after internext we are chillin for a while, no fucking travelling

going to new orleans for my birthday in oct though, you should come and get wasted with us for a few days

squizzel 07-29-2007 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12840986)
I have no clue who are you are talking to, but if it is me

I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also

btw, did you even look at my reply, I quoted 2 threads there....the second was the funny one, not the first

and WHY THE FUCK would I want to be on page one of google for free porn, that isn't even something I aim for in the worst of times

trophy term, to say that my dicks bigger then yours.

squizzel 07-29-2007 09:38 PM

also jace, i think you stole my idea. SEO services, for links. Or was your sig like that before i started doing that... you are a joke and you copy me.

"Want a FREE seo blog install? email me - icq: 102893553
(I only require a few links from the blog to safe sites in my network)

MY SIG IS FOR SALE AGAIN! Click Here For Info"

http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...astyboards.com hmmmmm i dont think your gonna beat that.

brand0n 07-29-2007 09:39 PM

hmm wrightsville or NO... heh

hit me on aim tomorrow.. i need a break and would love to give you the chance to bail me out

TheDoc 07-29-2007 09:40 PM

I hope this guy gets some business done out of all this brainless chatter.

brand0n 07-29-2007 09:40 PM

who is this guy lol

dude, please go back and start up with LS.. that was pure comedy

Jace 07-29-2007 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizzel (Post 12841042)
also jace, i think you stole my idea. SEO services, for links. Or was your sig like that before i started doing that... you are a joke and you copy me.

"Want a FREE seo blog install? email me - icq: 102893553
(I only require a few links from the blog to safe sites in my network)

MY SIG IS FOR SALE AGAIN! Click Here For Info"

http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...astyboards.com hmmmmm i dont think your gonna beat that.

OMFG, this post needs its own thread

ATTN ATTN

SQUIZZEL INVENTED TRADING SERVICES FOR LINKS

squizzely, you sure are good for a laugh sometimes

Jace 07-29-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 12841056)
who is this guy lol

dude, please go back and start up with LS.. that was pure comedy

someone who has one good site and is an expert on everything

sound familiar? probably because at least one of these fools comes along every 3-4 months on gfy, touts their shit for a month or two, then crashes and burns shortly thereafter

brand0n 07-29-2007 09:48 PM

ah so hes stickyfingers offspring?

why didnt someone fuckin say so?

clears up EVERYTHING

shekinah 07-29-2007 10:00 PM

Sent you PM, check us out:)

Cyndalie 07-30-2007 07:07 AM

LOL

SEO is a skill yes. Not every SEO wants to own and operate 100's of sites. Not every SEO wants the risk and responsibilities of owning and maintaining adult sites and publishing adult content. You SEO a site and build it out once, do it right the first time and it'll have good results for the long term. In order to make money you need to build out a lot of property, maintain it, host it, populate it with valuable content, and it ends up more of a web site business than actually SEO work. So if your specialty is SEO and you can make a couple hundred an hour optimizing others projects and moving on, without any over head, risk, etc, why not. Sure you can have your own stuff on the side, but honestly, anyone who thinks an SEO has nothing to gain by freelancing or working full time for a company as a key marketing personnel (with benefits and steady paycheck) is out of their minds. There are good and bad optimizers out there. The good are hard to find b/c they are particular about the work and clients they take on. Most good ones will analyze the site (code, goals, content) and decide if it's one they can help or not. It is very hands on, very labor intensive, and you get very involved in the web operations and business of your clients. Once the work is completed, believe it or not, the rest is out of the SEO's hands as well. Overwrites on site updates, infrastructure (code method) changes, dynamic elements, all of this comes into play. What most people don't realize is SEO comes into play during site development, including design, not as an afterthought. This is why it's in most web based companies best interest to retain someone with SEO skills in house, and they pay for it. While good optimization can result for the long term, growing means building , and an inhouse person keeps an eye on the best interest of marketing throughout development from initial to sustained. Believe it or not, these SEO's or "internet marketers" or "marketing directors" are paid well, can go home to their families and sleep without any worries about algorithm changes affecting their ability to pay bills or if their 100 sites are 2257 compliant or some shit.

To judge an SEO on their decisions on how they apply their skills is stupid. Judge them by the results from their work. :2 cents:

Vick! 07-30-2007 07:24 AM

SEO don't waste time in keyboard fight. Only laborers do. :2 cents:

TheDoc 07-30-2007 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 12842342)
SEO don't waste time in keyboard fight. Only laborers do. :2 cents:

Show me a person who does SEO and I will show you a laborer.

NTM 07-30-2007 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 12840986)
I have over 200 domains in google presently with top ranking keywords scattered everywhere, at least 200 #1 spots for prime keywords also

You are soo fucking full of shit :1orglaugh

you have 200 domains ranking #1 for prime keywords and you still have to peddle your "blog seo optimization" services?

I seen your "seo'd' blogs - its total bunk.

skillfull 07-31-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 12842301)
LOL

SEO is a skill yes. Not every SEO wants to own and operate 100's of sites. Not every SEO wants the risk and responsibilities of owning and maintaining adult sites and publishing adult content. You SEO a site and build it out once, do it right the first time and it'll have good results for the long term. In order to make money you need to build out a lot of property, maintain it, host it, populate it with valuable content, and it ends up more of a web site business than actually SEO work. So if your specialty is SEO and you can make a couple hundred an hour optimizing others projects and moving on, without any over head, risk, etc, why not. Sure you can have your own stuff on the side, but honestly, anyone who thinks an SEO has nothing to gain by freelancing or working full time for a company as a key marketing personnel (with benefits and steady paycheck) is out of their minds. There are good and bad optimizers out there. The good are hard to find b/c they are particular about the work and clients they take on. Most good ones will analyze the site (code, goals, content) and decide if it's one they can help or not. It is very hands on, very labor intensive, and you get very involved in the web operations and business of your clients. Once the work is completed, believe it or not, the rest is out of the SEO's hands as well. Overwrites on site updates, infrastructure (code method) changes, dynamic elements, all of this comes into play. What most people don't realize is SEO comes into play during site development, including design, not as an afterthought. This is why it's in most web based companies best interest to retain someone with SEO skills in house, and they pay for it. While good optimization can result for the long term, growing means building , and an inhouse person keeps an eye on the best interest of marketing throughout development from initial to sustained. Believe it or not, these SEO's or "internet marketers" or "marketing directors" are paid well, can go home to their families and sleep without any worries about algorithm changes affecting their ability to pay bills or if their 100 sites are 2257 compliant or some shit.

To judge an SEO on their decisions on how they apply their skills is stupid. Judge them by the results from their work. :2 cents:

greatest reply on this thread, in fact, that my case.

I suck a design, i suck at programming and my english isn't perfect, so I do hire copywritter to write some content, make the optimization and that all I do for personal projects. I really prefer to go from clients to clients at my day job and work on differents projects. I do SEO, SEM and SMO, with some success (one of my client, mainstream project in difficult niche, started from scratch in May will end up July with more than 250 000 unique a month, must admit 30-50k from PPC but still, I like to work on that prject even if this is not the greatest hourly rate ever seen, i rpefer to do stuff i like that make tons of cash and hate my job)

MrChips 07-31-2007 04:14 PM

SE Spammers of the world unite.


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