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Lace 07-29-2007 12:35 PM
So WTF Happened to OhMobile?
 
Just tried one of my mobile sites and was looking through the links - yeah, nothing works.


1 - OhMobile.com totally redirects.
2 - Am I being credited for anything?

i.e. - http://in.ohmobile.com/cgi-bin/porw.cgi/26/130338/X

swampthing 07-29-2007 12:41 PM
Oshit


:)

jonesonyou 07-29-2007 12:45 PM
Whatis Oh Mobile?

Red Ezra 07-29-2007 12:46 PM
oh man oh man

Lace 07-29-2007 12:48 PM
I was never able to convert them for shit but I never received any type of email or anything saying their site was shut down....How long has this even been like this????

RawAlex 07-29-2007 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonesonyou (Post 12839273)
Whatis Oh Mobile?
Apparently a piece of history. :(

StuartD 07-29-2007 12:50 PM
Yeah, dunno... I remember all the "big name" girls around here "signing up" to Oh Mobile and having sites done and going to take over the world... blah blah blah...

then, nothing.

swoit :thumbsup

MaDalton 07-29-2007 12:53 PM
i wonder what happened to those that signed the contract that ohmobile does their exclusive mobile distribution and they cannot go with someone else without giving ohmobile a share...

Lace 07-29-2007 12:56 PM
I had their sites listed on www.adultmobilenetwork.com

ALL DOWN. I'm quite pissed off....Guess their magical disappearing act describes the non existent conversions off all SEO and clicked traffic..

psili 07-29-2007 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12839303)
Yeah, dunno... I remember all the "big name" girls around here "signing up" to Oh Mobile and having sites done and going to take over the world... blah blah blah...

then, nothing.

swoit :thumbsup
It's because the only people making any real money off adult mobile (other than carriers willing to service content off their own deck) are those who are contracted to build a mobile solution for a sorry-ass company thinking they'll make money selling their content via mobile.

Well, that might not be entirely correct, but it's not that far off, either.

MaDalton 07-29-2007 12:58 PM
btw - ask cecash - maybe they know more.

bobby666 07-29-2007 01:01 PM
oh = surpprise , that's it

Makingcoin 07-29-2007 01:21 PM
Do a search at jbm. Jason made a post about it last month.

Nails 07-29-2007 02:21 PM
damn, another one bites the dust

Rochard 07-29-2007 02:25 PM
The problem with mobile is that it's controled by the phone companies themselves.... if your not on the "deck" of the phone itself, it's nearly pointless.

We've already seen how advertising on TV doens't carry over to the internet, and I think the market of people who surf the net looking for pix for their phone is rather limited.

Compdoctor 07-29-2007 02:32 PM
Quote:
The problem with mobile is that it's controled by the phone companies themselves.... if your not on the "deck" of the phone itself, it's nearly pointless.
Thats not true! I can make movies that you can sync into your moble using your hot sync. Full movies that only weigh 20 - 30 megs. But on some cheap phones it is true you have to download thru the phone company

MikeVega 07-29-2007 02:35 PM
If i recall they had processing problems or something but last time i brought that up someone told me the owner was pissed and wanted to meet me in at the Vegas show. they said that they had a solution and were fixing it. that was a long time ago so if they've been active in the past year then i don't know. they did kinda vanish but if anyone has a mobile solution that i can just give my content to and they set it all up let me know. I just haven't had time and i know its easy money I'm missing out on.

Masterchief 07-29-2007 02:41 PM
I work directly with the major mobile carriers in the US (at&t, tmobile, verizon, sprint, alltell) and they all want nothing to do with anything "adult" related. so if you're looking to do business in the US you'll have to get around that slight problem first....

psili 07-29-2007 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12839629)
...i know its easy money I'm missing out on.
Just curious, why do you think it's "easy money"?

Blue Player 07-29-2007 02:47 PM
The only thing I make money on mobile wise is in sms billing on sites. Other than that it is bollocks to market via the internet. Marketting it like adult text is a different thing though.

Far-L 07-29-2007 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12839585)
The problem with mobile is that it's controled by the phone companies themselves.... if your not on the "deck" of the phone itself, it's nearly pointless.

We've already seen how advertising on TV doens't carry over to the internet, and I think the market of people who surf the net looking for pix for their phone is rather limited.
Selling from TV doesn't work? Since when? We have done thousands of signups over the years from all the TV spots we have done like 20/20, HBO, etc. We do tons from our Playboy stuff as well. 20/20 did over a couple hundred in a matter of hours then kept selling high for about a week after.

The problem with OhMobile I am guessing is that they were making promises that they could not keep and ran afoul of the carriers. I don't know that is what happened... just a hunch since i always got the "too good to be true" feeling about their pitch...

Blue Player 07-29-2007 02:48 PM
I earn a fucking shit load and cant see how people can afford to download stuff on their phones. My carrier sent me a $200 internet bill last month and I only use the internet to check the football scores.

MikeVega 07-29-2007 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by psili (Post 12839656)
Just curious, why do you think it's "easy money"?
what i mean is I know from talking to other people that its another revenue stream for our exclusive content and its not that hard to set up if you work with the right company ( I'm still looking for the right one . :) ) I know a lot like Hot Movies there are companies that you can just hand over content to ( with paperwork and all that of course ) and they will set everything up and send you a check for a % or the revenue it produces . I bought a Brazilian production company a few years back and own 52 full titles with 2257. i use that exclusive content for www.Brazilianbitches.com and i have some up on Hot movies.com .. they send me a nice check each month with no work on my end other then handing over the content. I'm looking to do the same in the mobile market.

MikeVega 07-29-2007 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Player (Post 12839679)
I earn a fucking shit load and cant see how people can afford to download stuff on their phones. My carrier sent me a $200 internet bill last month and I only use the internet to check the football scores.
it has to be your plan. I have unlimited internet for like $29 a month extra. I browse and download all the time on both my BlackJack and on the Blackberry.

psili 07-29-2007 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12839685)
what i mean is I know from talking to other people that its another revenue stream for our exclusive content and its not that hard to set up if you work with the right company ( I'm still looking for the right one . :) ) I know a lot like Hot Movies there are companies that you can just hand over content to ( with paperwork and all that of course ) and they will set everything up and send you a check for a % or the revenue it produces . I bought a Brazilian production company a few years back and own 52 full titles with 2257. i use that exclusive content for www.Brazilianbitches.com and i have some up on Hot movies.com .. they send me a nice check each month with no work on my end other then handing over the content. I'm looking to do the same in the mobile market.
Only thing I can think of is trying to contact some European carriers that'll take your content, batch it themselves, sell it off their decks and give you a percent. You can also try and setup a wireless site and use programs such as Bango to do billing for one-off downloads or time-based memberships to a WAP site -- even for some US carriers (Cingular works well). You can even try and purchase a couple of SMS short codes and do some "cute" style SMS campaigns in the US that aren't adult - like "text to 666 and get this bikini pic of [hot slut's name] for $1.99". However, after carriers and your SMS aggregator take their cut, you're left with very little.

I spent the last three years working at a US adult company doing such things and the efforts and costs exceeded revenue. Like someone said above, anyone contacting you about a wireless solution, you should be very wary of it "sounding too good to be true". I'm not all-knowing in mobile, just know what I've experienced, and usually the middle-man charging to setup a mobile solution for someone is making the money -- not the company paying for that solution.

Anyway... my $.02. :)
Cheers.

KrisKross 07-29-2007 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 12839585)
[...]I think the market of people who surf the net looking for pix for their phone is rather limited.
Absolutely wrong. And with faster speeds and lower rates, the market is only growing.

MikeVega 07-29-2007 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by psili (Post 12839811)
Only thing I can think of is trying to contact some European carriers that'll take your content, batch it themselves, sell it off their decks and give you a percent. You can also try and setup a wireless site and use programs such as Bango to do billing for one-off downloads or time-based memberships to a WAP site -- even for some US carriers (Cingular works well). You can even try and purchase a couple of SMS short codes and do some "cute" style SMS campaigns in the US that aren't adult - like "text to 666 and get this bikini pic of [hot slut's name] for $1.99". However, after carriers and your SMS aggregator take their cut, you're left with very little.

I spent the last three years working at a US adult company doing such things and the efforts and costs exceeded revenue. Like someone said above, anyone contacting you about a wireless solution, you should be very wary of it "sounding too good to be true". I'm not all-knowing in mobile, just know what I've experienced, and usually the middle-man charging to setup a mobile solution for someone is making the money -- not the company paying for that solution.

Anyway... my $.02. :)
Cheers.
That's very helpful .. I do know that the guys i spoke to ( I'm pissed i can't find a card or recall the name) were doing it in EU and it was all Pic based. If you know of anyone that maybe able to help me out please shoot over their contact info. I'd be very thankful . Mikevega(a)Satancash.com

p1mpdogg 07-29-2007 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 12839673)
Selling from TV doesn't work? Since when? We have done thousands of signups over the years from all the TV spots we have done like 20/20, HBO, etc. We do tons from our Playboy stuff as well. 20/20 did over a couple hundred in a matter of hours then kept selling high for about a week after.

The problem with OhMobile I am guessing is that they were making promises that they could not keep and ran afoul of the carriers. I don't know that is what happened... just a hunch since i always got the "too good to be true" feeling about their pitch...
you are an idiot that needs his teeth knocked in.

psili 07-29-2007 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeVega (Post 12839849)
That's very helpful .. I do know that the guys i spoke to ( I'm pissed i can't find a card or recall the name) were doing it in EU and it was all Pic based. If you know of anyone that maybe able to help me out please shoot over their contact info. I'd be very thankful . Mikevega(a)Satancash.com
For the wap site billing, the company used:
http://bango.com/woc/

For a sms platform, the company used:
http://mkodo.com

For the sms aggregator to bill premium rate messages:
http://simplewire.com/

For carriers, I'm not sure, but searching for ones that want adult content and will put your content on their deck is what to look for. I'd also look for ones who will batch pics and videos themselves. If you go the route where you actually give someone your content for them to vend to handsets, make sure you're comfortable with them as the company I worked at, due to content licensing agreements, had to make sure the content they sent out didn't just end up getting used "willy nilly" by the foreign carriers.

Again, I just know what I had to work with, so I'm sure there's many other mobile things out there. And I won't stress it enough: make sure you or someone does some solid leg work on calculating effort spent and expected revenues minus additional costs involved.

Far-L 07-30-2007 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12839856)
you are an idiot that needs his teeth knocked in.

take your meds and call Ian E. so he can comfort you in these difficult times

drjones 07-30-2007 07:40 AM
As someone else said, do a search for Oh Mobile on JBM. There was a post on it a while ago explaining everything.

Big_Red 07-30-2007 07:51 AM
oh mobile= oh snap

emjay 11-16-2007 11:16 AM
It must be remembered that the overall perception seems to be that content on the fixed-line internet should be for free, whereas consumers are already used to paying for calls/SMS/premium content for and by means of their mobile devices and will pay for premium content on the mobile web.

Yes, the cellcos keep too much. But mobile is simply an additional distribution channel for your digital data. And as the industry matures, content owners will get more of a slice of the pie.

Those webmasters interested in becoming wapmasters might be interested in this online seminar on the subject :
http://tutorial-en.sexgoesmobile.com/en/ :pimp

BlackCrayon 11-16-2007 11:42 AM
They should of waited a few years. I think mobile web will be pretty big in the next 2-3 years.

FreeHugeMovies 11-16-2007 12:09 PM
Remember all those people who would come on GFY and post "Oh Mobile, we just gave our content to them and we are on their network" Congradulations.

emjay 11-17-2007 03:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 13380753)
They should of waited a few years. I think mobile web will be pretty big in the next 2-3 years.
Agreed.:pimp

Jace 11-17-2007 03:48 AM
from jason

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1140254)
To this day, I wish I never developed OhMobile and spent a year trying to bring mobile and adult in the states.

The press was cool, Nightline, newspapers and our own industy publications. Showing the Microsoft guys what broadband porn looked like on their new Mobile 5.0 OS in their booth was funny.. They didnt know what to think. The people that devloped the streaming solution for oh.tv were amazing. Kinda the first of its kind the way we did it.. Now it seems like a standard.

Anywho.. Let's just say that it took focus away from the important things, and in the long run, let a lot of people down.

I don't think its something I did personally. Believe me, I was sold on the idea.. The numbers were all there.. Maybe I was to ahead of my time.. I dont know.. But I do know that myself and Lori Z. busted our ass to get eyeballs in front the ads, and of course the buzz attracted content partners. So many, I could not intergrate them all.

250M handsets and sex.. sounded real good.

After awhile and painfully realizing that it wasnt working out, I abandon the idea of mobile, released everyone from their contracts, and went back to what I knew. Even back in world of affiliate programs, all I wanted to do is go back under a rock. Working with CE was cool for a few months.. We've been close friends for years.. But that to had to end.

Bummer, It was a great experiance.

I was told that my ego got to big.. I don't know, I guess I can see it.. Everything I touched turned to gold. But still thought I was humble and treated everyone the same. After CE, I just kinda went away... Lost interest in the game. Lost interest in the money. Lost interest in the fight.

Well I'm glad to say that those days are over. I have that same feeling coming back..

But, first things first.. After holding it in for 2 years... I just want to apologize to my content, technology partners and Lori Z, that mobile didnt work out..

The second thing, if anyone ever thought I had an ego, tell me about it. I want to hear why you think that. It doesnt have to be on a chat board.. I have an ICQ, I wont be mad at you.. hell.. If you thought I was an asshole.. then tell me.. I'll respect you more for your honesty.

Ok... Now that is said, time to turn the page.


The future looks good. Thank you to everyone.

Boomer Sooner.


jason
ICQ 116242107


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