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NTM 07-30-2007 11:20 AM

12 y/o girls french kissing - is it illegal?
 
someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?


I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

Humpy Leftnut 07-30-2007 11:22 AM

Why are you keeping it online?

NTM 07-30-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12843571)
Why are you keeping it online?

keeping what online?

Humpy Leftnut 07-30-2007 11:23 AM

Oh it's not posted on your server, they just posted a link?

dissipate 07-30-2007 11:25 AM

report it, its disgusting.

NTM 07-30-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12843590)
Oh it's not posted on your server, they just posted a link?

yes, they spammed my blog comments with it


it looks wrong, but im not sure if it's actually illegal

should i report it anyway? if so, where?

jonesonyou 07-30-2007 11:27 AM

yess. it is.

Flynn 07-30-2007 11:30 AM

Yeah, that's not right.

Ice 07-30-2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12843563)
Should i report it somewhere?


http://asacp.org/page.php

xxxRumor 07-30-2007 11:35 AM

Thats fucked up, period

Scott McD 07-30-2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12843563)
I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

It sure doesn't look right. Fucked up !! :disgust

NTM 07-30-2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice (Post 12843634)

Yes, i already thought of it. Is it CP though? They are fully clothed... could be close friends photos or something.

Humpy Leftnut 07-30-2007 11:38 AM

Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

Jim_Gunn 07-30-2007 12:08 PM

How do you know that they are twelve?

MaDalton 07-30-2007 12:10 PM

i don't see why that would be illegal on a private level - if someone tries to make money with it it could be different

Libertine 07-30-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12843563)
someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?


I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

Yuk. I googled it :disgust

The pics don't look illegal, but since it says "part 1", I'm pretty sure it's part of a series that will make a turn for the worse. Definitely stuff that should be reported.

M0nk 07-30-2007 12:22 PM

for them ..it is!

NTM 07-30-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 12843827)
How do you know that they are twelve?

thats what the spam text said

Mr Steele 07-30-2007 01:33 PM

If you really have to ask about the legal status of a pic, is it really worth finding out for sure? Especially this type of pic :helpme

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...o8ne6xyvp6.gif

Calvinguy 07-30-2007 01:48 PM

My wife just kissed our 6 months old baby... should I report her?

Young 07-30-2007 01:52 PM

12 year olds french kissing, pictures of your daughters friends....some things should just be kept off a board like this.

Seriously...

Bourd 07-30-2007 01:59 PM

If you're not sure if it's illegal or not, just report it... If it says "part 1", it may lead to cp in the next set... who knows. You should report it IMO.

sniperwolf 07-30-2007 02:06 PM

report it! they're minors...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 07-30-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12843667)
Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

there's enough documented cases that pop up in the news to lead me towards saying yes they could be charged...

geeknik 07-30-2007 02:36 PM

Kissing is not sexually explicit. Nor is it obscene, and considering they seem to be fully clothed, it's not pornographic.

NTM 07-30-2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknik (Post 12844587)
Kissing is not sexually explicit. Nor is it obscene, and considering they seem to be fully clothed, it's not pornographic.

Thats kinda what i've been thinking. I mean, they could be family photos or something..

dv2 07-30-2007 02:52 PM

I assume your blog is adult. So that pretty much makes this a bad location
for these pics to be linked from.

Aquarius 07-30-2007 02:53 PM

I'd report that shit.

geeknik 07-30-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12844646)
Thats kinda what i've been thinking. I mean, they could be family photos or something..

Haha, I don't know about that. I'm not supporting it, nor do I like looking at 12 yr old girls, but I don't think it's porn.

dv2 07-30-2007 03:00 PM

If it's linked from an adult site, I'd say it's pushing cp.
Obviously, if this was some family's flickr gallery and not linked from an adult site, it might be acceptable.

Jarmusch 07-30-2007 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12843896)
The pics don't look illegal, but since it says "part 1", I'm pretty sure it's part of a series that will make a turn for the worse.

Yes, lets all assume the worse. :rolleyes:

Mr Pheer 07-30-2007 03:09 PM

The last I heard, pornography involves sexual organs. Kissing does not.

It may not be in the best taste, but kids kissing is not pornography.

Mr. Cool Ice 07-30-2007 03:30 PM

It is appalling how many "professional webmasters" don't know what real CP is.

Pleasurepays 07-30-2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut (Post 12843667)
Kinda weird though, two girls get together, kiss each other and take pictures... Can they be both charged for making cp?

its not cp

tenderobject 07-30-2007 04:21 PM

i fucking hate those blog spammers! damnit much more irritating that email spammer hope they die!

Libertine 07-30-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 12844765)
The last I heard, pornography involves sexual organs.

This is *NOT* the case when it comes to minors. Not in the US, anyway. A recent court decision determined that fully clothed pictures of minors, showing neither genitals, breasts, simulated sex or whatever, may still be illegal.

MaDalton 07-30-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12845264)
This is *NOT* the case when it comes to minors. Not in the US, anyway. A recent court decision determined that fully clothed pictures of minors, showing neither genitals, breasts, simulated sex or whatever, may still be illegal.

btw - the pic in your sig would be illegal according to that too :winkwink:

bizarrejan 07-30-2007 04:50 PM

got to be illegal

Libertine 07-30-2007 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 12845307)
btw - the pic in your sig would be illegal according to that too :winkwink:

Ehm, it's a drawing. If it were a real photograph, however, it could indeed be illegal, if it was determined that the subject was underage and that the picture implied something to do with sex.

Basically, it's all up to the court... no clear rules. A bit like obscenity laws.

VicD 07-30-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12843949)
thats what the spam text said


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sortie 07-30-2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM (Post 12843563)
someone just spammed my blog with pics of 12 yo girls frenchkissing each other

Is it illegal? Should i report it somewhere?


I wont post the link here for obvious reasons, but you can find the page if you do a search in google for "MONA AND MIA PART"

It's illegal because of the simulated sex acts.
It doesn't matter if they have clothes on.

a1ka1ine 07-30-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 12845359)
Ehm, it's a drawing. If it were a real photograph, however, it could indeed be illegal, if it was determined that the subject was underage and that the picture implied something to do with sex.

Basically, it's all up to the court... no clear rules. A bit like obscenity laws.

its a picture of an underage girl and although it is not naked it is on a board about sex/adult so arguably could be illegal!

and.. pictures "depictions" are not exempt from all this in the US :)

tehHinjew 07-30-2007 07:18 PM

post the ip addres of the person who posted it + the comment itself

IllTestYourGirls 07-30-2007 07:18 PM

Has anyone asked this question? Why would they spam that site on your site? Is there a virus, spyware or something on the page? What sponsors is it linking to? I dont get why someone would leave a random gallery or site that has 12 year olds kissing and nothing else on it.

Libertine 07-30-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1ka1ine (Post 12845799)
its a picture of an underage girl and although it is not naked it is on a board about sex/adult so arguably could be illegal!

and.. pictures "depictions" are not exempt from all this in the US :)

Ehm, no. It is posted on a board about the adult industry, but that in no way implies that it is pornographic content.

As for the depictions thing... the constitutionality of the laws against drawings is still rather questionable. Last time the supreme court was involved, a similar law was struck down.

Young 07-30-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehHinjew (Post 12845814)
post the ip addres of the person who posted it + the comment itself


I'm thinking there is no IP because there is no comment.

After seeing his post about pictures of his daughters friends...and now this...I'm wondering if NTM is a sane person or not.

Young 07-30-2007 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12845815)
Has anyone asked this question? Why would they spam that site on your site? Is there a virus, spyware or something on the page? What sponsors is it linking to? I dont get why someone would leave a random gallery or site that has 12 year olds kissing and nothing else on it.

Exactly. The story is made even more unbelievable due to his posting history.

shekinah 07-30-2007 07:42 PM

They are below minors, in fact they are still kids... so report it!:

pink_in_the_middle 07-30-2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shekinah (Post 12845896)
They are below minors, in fact they are still kids... so report it!:

It's reported.
NTM you shouldn't even need to ask if this is legal or not, it just shows what type of person you are you sick fuck:2 cents:

Intricate 07-30-2007 11:11 PM

The pictures are sexual in nature. I like real women, and two adult women making out is sexually appealing to me. Similarly, two 12 year old girls making out would be sexually appealing to a person who liked that.

I reported it, regardless of whatever some of you may believe. That isn't just "cute kissing" between friends.

Impact, not intent.

Pornography is defined as "obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit."

Obscene in this case is defined as "causing uncontrolled sexual desire."

Therefore, pornography does not have to involve nudity, it only has to suggest at sexuality. Pornography is not recorded nudity, it is any media which results in sexual stimulation, whether intended in that way or not.


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