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Meorazhar 08-01-2007 06:34 AM

Google removes supplemental results from SERPs
 
Just recently Google has announced at its official webmaster central blog that they are going to stop tagging some search results as "supplemental".

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...ainstream.html

From the comments on the original post looks like it's more to the bad than to the good though...

Meorazhar 08-01-2007 06:39 AM

Wow, the thread is sinking fast.
Bump for the business matter.
Just checked one of my sites and all my supplemental results gone mainstream

who 08-01-2007 06:41 AM

You're wrong with the title. They are no longer MARKING THEM AS SUPPLEMENTAL - not removing them from the results.

Meorazhar 08-01-2007 06:50 AM

Whatever...
Nobody cares anyway :)

RawAlex 08-01-2007 07:03 AM

Yeah, if anything, if read correctly, it says that Google is confident enough of botting all of the pages that they no longer have to mark something as supplemental because they have the ability to check them in a reasonable amount of time.

So in the end, it isn't a bad thing, but a decent thing.

scottybuzz 08-01-2007 07:24 AM

Bump for more discussion.

Kevsh 08-01-2007 07:29 AM

Quote:

The distinction between the main and the supplemental index is therefore continuing to narrow.
I can see arguments for and against the move, but if the above quote from the article is true then I see it overall as a positive. For a few of my sites that are heavily in the Supps I have a chance to get visits on otherwise very rare terms where I'm buried.

Cyndalie 08-01-2007 07:30 AM

Hell of a misleading thread title.

StarkReality 08-01-2007 07:40 AM

I could be a good thing, although I doubt they'll give pages they marked as unimportant (=supplemental) more importance now...It could just be a dirty trick to move even more results to supplemental (or a "dead part" of the index when it comes to ranking) silently and noone will complain or recognize it.

JD 08-01-2007 07:43 AM

fucking eh.....

Theo 08-01-2007 09:37 AM

interesting indeed

woj 08-01-2007 10:01 AM

thanks for the heads up :thumbsup

NinjaSteve 08-01-2007 10:18 AM

What is a supplemental result anyway?

hungry hungry hippy 08-01-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarkReality (Post 12853635)
I could be a good thing, although I doubt they'll give pages they marked as unimportant (=supplemental) more importance now...It could just be a dirty trick to move even more results to supplemental (or a "dead part" of the index when it comes to ranking) silently and noone will complain or recognize it.

my thoughts exactly. this will just make it harder to gauge your strategies.

so don't be happy kevsh your supp'd pages won't suddenly fly up the serps :upsidedow

Forkbeard 08-01-2007 10:23 AM

The only recent change has been to remove the tag that *shows* that a page is supplemental.

I've been tracking the supplemental pages on one of my blogs *very* closely for a few days to monitor the effect of some navigation changes. The pages that were supplemental are still supplemental -- which is to say, they only appear in searches for site:url, they appear immediately after all the pages that didn't used to be supplemental, and they still don't show up even when you do a targeted search for phrases from those pages.

So, sorry to say it, but Google is lying. They've eliminated the ability to easily see which pages are supplemental, but they haven't changed the functionality of those pages lately.

They may indeed change them later, that's always possible. But today, we still have as many supplemental pages as we had yesterday, Google is just playing hide-the-ball like they did when they stopped updating PageRank in a timely fashion.

mrkrabs 08-01-2007 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 12854318)
What is a supplemental result anyway?

bump for this question

Altheon 08-01-2007 12:00 PM

I liked being able to see which results were in supplemental since you could easily identify the pages that needed more link love.

sonofsam 08-01-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 12854318)
What is a supplemental result anyway?

duplicate content would fall into supplemental

original content does not.

bobby666 08-01-2007 01:38 PM

a bump for the worth, generally

bdld 08-01-2007 01:47 PM

thread title is false, at the very least misleading.

SmokeyTheBear 08-01-2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forkbeard (Post 12854346)
The only recent change has been to remove the tag that *shows* that a page is supplemental.

I've been tracking the supplemental pages on one of my blogs *very* closely for a few days to monitor the effect of some navigation changes. The pages that were supplemental are still supplemental -- which is to say, they only appear in searches for site:url, they appear immediately after all the pages that didn't used to be supplemental, and they still don't show up even when you do a targeted search for phrases from those pages.

So, sorry to say it, but Google is lying. They've eliminated the ability to easily see which pages are supplemental, but they haven't changed the functionality of those pages lately.

They may indeed change them later, that's always possible. But today, we still have as many supplemental pages as we had yesterday, Google is just playing hide-the-ball like they did when they stopped updating PageRank in a timely fashion.

actually when you do site:domain.com they no longer appear as far as i can tell. well they do and they dont..

when you search site:domain.com it will show 1-100 of XXXX pages

lets say x is 3333 , if you are search 100 results per page and go to the last page of results ( should be 900-1000 ) you will notice a different number.

for example on one of my domains it shows about 2k pages for site:domain.com but when i scroll to the bottom it only shows up to page #3 , when i go to page 3 it says 332 of 332 at the top instead of 332 of 2000

last week it was showing the full amount of pages but the last 700 were listed as supplemental.

so it showed the full 1000 , now those supplemental pages are gone ( kinda )

baddog 08-01-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld (Post 12855680)
thread title is false, at the very least misleading.

Not really. Just means that with popular keywords instead of showing up as a supplemental result, you probably won't show up at all.

he-fox 08-01-2007 02:08 PM

this sounds like good news to me.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 08-01-2007 02:21 PM

Tech question for you all...
 
My site is: www.PrismVoD.com however I'm indexing xml and have moved my index.xml to a different directory with my .htaccess pointing to http://www.prismvod.com/lesbian-vod/index.xml ... Is this an example of a supplemental index ?

Google likes rss and atom feeds but does not seem to like straight xml ... does anyone have any comments regarding this issue...

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squizzel 08-01-2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 12855453)
duplicate content would fall into supplemental

original content does not.

actually that is wrong. It is more to do with links, domain authority, and link juice pointing at a page. You can get duplicate content to rank very well if you have a domain of authority. Contary to popular belief what your suggesting is old news and hasnt been relevant for over a year. It pays to be clued up.

hungry hungry hippy 08-01-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizzel (Post 12856141)
actually that is wrong. It is more to do with links, domain authority, and link juice pointing at a page. You can get duplicate content to rank very well if you have a domain of authority. Contary to popular belief what your suggesting is old news and hasnt been relevant for over a year. It pays to be clued up.

what he said..

dupe content is a myth created by white hats to (try) to protect their beloved content :upsidedow


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