Who to trade with, who to watch out.
 

Hey there.

Since there's plenty of hypocritical schmucks more than willing to lie to everyone to make an extra buck, or to look good in their particular jerk circle, plus a hefty garnishment of downright dumbfucks, and these two somehow manage to drag in, or at least try their damndest to make it look like they drug in, otherwise intelligent, helpfull people

And since I have as much need for the two groups as for teeth tumours,

Here's the Fluffygrrl Who's who in the traffic trade biz. It doesn't cover the entire biz, obviously, because I can't trade with everybody. But the people I do trade with, I'll put here.

If you haven't noticed already, I don't give a shit about making bros, and if you need to document that, feel free to search for this handle and read some posts. I got enough friends to not really care about forum cultists.

So, I'll put them here, either good or bad. Posts will go stale, and unlikely as it may seem, some people may fix their act in the interval. Also, it's possible there's the ocasional good guy that just didn't work out, for whoever what reasons (his gf on the rag answered my emails, his house was burning, whatever). I'm sure you'll be able to read all about them down below.

I'll make a new post every once in a while, giving out the status of current trades. I'll be ranking them for volume (ie, do they send as much as they get or do they shave), productivity (ie, do they send 1 hit 100% bounce shit) and communications (how easy it is to get a hold of them and how helpful they are). Goes from excellent to good, fair, and shit.

Peace.

For today, Aug 30 2007 :

The Good

isharemybitch.com - Volume : excellent ; Prod : excellent ; Comm - not used yet.

freeadultspot.com - Volume : good ; Prod : good ; comm - not used yet.

youngandnaive.com - Volume : fair ; Prod : excellent ; comm - not used yet.

easyxmovies.com - Volume : fair ; Prod : fair ; comm - not used yet.

sex.hahahahahahahahahahaha.com - Volume : fair ; Prod : shit ; comm - about to give em a ring.

The Shitty

voyeurpost.com - Volume : shit ; Prod : shit ; comm - utter shit.

--end of list--

I guess the little show you put on in the other thread wasn't enough, huh? You made it really clear in that other thread you have absolutely no clue how regulated trades work.

I'm sure, based on your behavior so far, that I am just going to get a belligerent, know-it-all response from you, but this is honest advice intended to be helpful: stop typing and spend some time reading. You sass-mouthed people in that other thread who really could have helped you and you've done yourself no good by being so combative.

SpaceAce

You're wasting your time.

You are better off posting this on a small niche board

So what's your site again?

Maybe, but I don't have the patience to follow multiple boards.

Anyway, to explain the rankings :

excellent means that far as I can tell, the guy is sending more than he's receiving.
good means that there's no apparent difference in what he sends and what he gets
fair means that while it may seem like he's sending slightly less than what he's getting, the difference is tiny and can easily be explained by a million unrelated factors.
shit means there's no doubt in my mind the guy is guilty for sending less than he gets.

LOL are you an idiot :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You don't have much patience for anything IMHO !!!

Anyway your doing a great job of making friends so please continue :winkwink:

why trade?

That's like asking why date. Some people do it. That's all.

or people can date you ;)

you are talking about sites with alexa rank of 1.000.000 and tell us the volume is good, what exactly are you talking about ?

Maybe you could be bothered to read.

This isn't about sizem it's about quality. Because quite frankly I'd rather trade 100 hits with a honest guy than 100,000 with some asshat. And if you have any clue, you'd rather too.

Incidentally, the only domain listed with volume : good has an alexa rank of 400k. Which one has 1m ?

You are right, sorry about that

400K alexa rank equals 2000 visitors a day, volume: GOOOD :1orglaugh

You do realise this is just for your site? Some sites send traffic back based on the prod/quality of the traffic you send them. So your traffic might be shit on one site and great on another, that'll affect the amount of hits on your site.

In other words, this list you're making is only useful for you. There's no point in posting it on GFY, unless you want to get laughed at. Also, you might want to rethink what you post here in the future because you're losing a lot of potentional business here (yes 99% of the people are trolls/surfers but there are also some real webmasters).

Just some advice :2 cents: :2 cents:

Have you clicked my sig?

wow... shitty low traffic mgps and a yucky babelog(?)... keep up the good work...

Data collected by me has obviously been collected by me. That does not make it "not usefull".

By comparison, data collected by doctors has been collected by those doctors, and data about patients applies to those particular patients. Obviously.

It's usefull in the sense it's better than nothing at all.

Now why would I click your sig ?

Still there are lots of differences, I can't get off on this one but you might

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nd_abscess.JPG

voyeurpost has quality traffic.

Far as I've seen, they don't.

Update - Aug 31 2007
 

The Good

isharemybitch.com - Volume : good ; Prod : excellent ; Comm - not used yet.

freeadultspot.com - Volume : good ; Prod : good ; comm - not used yet.

youngandnaive.com - Volume : fair ; Prod : excellent ; comm - not used yet.

easyxmovies.com - Volume : fair ; Prod : fair ; comm - not used yet.

The Shitty

voyeurpost.com - Volume : shit ; Prod : shit ; comm - utter shit.
sex.hahahahahahahahahahaha.com - Volume : shit ; Prod : shit ; comm - useless
pornoholik.net - Volume : shit ; prod : shit ; comm - useless.

--end of list--[/QUOTE]

pornoholik.net counted 448 in and 95 out. Well, I got 30 of those "95" and they averaged 1.00 pages (ie 0 prod) and 00:00:00 time on site 100.00% bounce. asshat.

:1orglaugh

fluffygrrl how many uniques do you get a day? And how many sales do you make a day?

i trade poo

http://plentymail.net/stuff/analytics.png

Mkay ?

At least you're honest.

:1orglaugh

good luck...finding quality trades

I'd hit it

Prolly the only one around.

Oh man.. in the past we needed fake nicks to have fun on GFY. Now we just get real live idiots.

thats just over 1100 uniques a day.

thats hardly anything.

You're one stunned cunt. That much is for sure.

Actually, it's 2k, 4k, 5k and now around 9k uniques a day. That's growth.

And unlike the unique you're thinking about, these are three minute a pop uniques.

what stats program is that?

http://www.combust.org/statz.gif

This is for a site I have neglected and never really treated seriously. More as a hobby and a test than anything.

If you're spending more than 9 minutes a day on this site of yours, you're failing.

So - just so that we're understood - you're basing this thread on a single day's business with less than a week's relationship with any of the parties?

It's more a hobby and a test than anything.

Yes. It consists of daily snapshots.

As idiotic as this may sound to you, try and grasp who this thread is for.

This thread is NOT for the seasoned trader. If said seasoned trader needs GFY to tell him what's what, the sky is fucking falling. Forget that.

This thread is for the noob. It's for the guy just starting out, with a trickle of traffic and no way to send thousands of hits just to test the waters. It's for the guy who doesn't have a second shot.

That guy, if doing his homework, has a chance to figure out where he's going to be treated fairly.

And let me tell you something. To him, it doesn't matter if people fuck him over cause they personally hate his guts, or cause they're in general evil, or cause he's just too small to be noticed one way or the other. He's getting fucked all the same.

I don't think it sounds idiotic.... data is data.

I just wanted perspective on the data, is all.

Bump for new guy

One of the best things anyone can do to help save themselves some time, money, and traffic, is to use http://www.cheaterhell.com to check on potential galleries, trades, links and so on.

carry on :)

actually anyone with real traffic would love to be on your shit list because only noobs will look at it and it will save real webmasters time dealing with them if then are blacklisted by noobs.

carry on :thumbsup

You missed the point entirely for the 5th time in a row. Are you going for the record or something ?

If you get shitlisted, you will be ignored by the diligent noob who does his homework. You will still be hit by the scammer and by the idiot just as good, they don't read it or care. The only thing you lose is the opportunity to make friends with people going up, while they're still down.

Not a great business plan. Then again, when did you have a great business plan.

I do fine without having to deal with noobs like you for every diligent noob there is out there we have 1000 idiot noobs that will look at your list so in the end being on your shitlist is great personally i would never trade traffic with you no need to deal with idiots like you and the odds of you being sucessfull are very slim talk all the shit you want i have seen your type since 2000 and have seen the 99.9% failure rate :)

What a great comparison. Did you even read what I wrote? The hits you get back depends on how your traffic works on other sites. Unless you're exposing cheaters (hitbotters, chinese feeder traffic only etc etc) this thread is utterly useless to anyone that has a clue about the TGP business.

And better than nothing at all? Actually it's better if you wouldn't post this nonsense at all, because you're bad mouthing your "bad trades" while they haven't done anything wrong at all. Their script is set to send back traffic based on the productivity of the traffic you've sent. This is how they keep their traffic stabilized.

If I still was in the TGP business I'd make sure to not trade with you at all, just in case you're going to be whiny about 200 visitors that you wouldn't deserve at all because your traffic wouldn't do well on my site. And I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. Also, if you start a trade with a site and they don't send anything back, just delete the trade and move on. Some sites test the quality of your traffic and if it isn't good the trade won't be activated at all.

Anyway, this was my last attempt to educate you about the whole process. It seems like you don't want to understand how things work in the business. But I wish you good luck with your sites.

:2 cents:

I love how you are claiming to know more about traffic trading than people in this thread who are currently making 10-20-30 sales a day, when you have made..... 1.

this thread is fucking hilarious... I just have to comment :)

i still consider myself a n00b after about 9 months... and you say you want to give info for the n00bs ????

YOU are that guy...

where do you base this on ??? (almost) everybody starts out small and certainly you, looking at your stats....

people like you make me laugh and made me realise also for some good ol' fun the adult biz is a good place... lol