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minusonebit 09-14-2007 10:21 PM

Taxes Support Terrorism
 
Terrorist Activities Sponsored by the United States:

1946- U.S. opens School of the Americas in Panama. Now located in Fort Benning, Georgia, the "School of the Assassins" has taught over 60,000 personnel from some of the world's most brutal regimes how to subvert the truth, to muzzle union leaders, activist clergy, and journalists, and to make war on their own people.

1951- CIA is involved in a coup to overthrow nationalist Primeminister Dr. Muhammed Mossadeq in Iran. Supports Iranian military in massacre of Mossadeq supporters and returns the Shah to power. In 1976, Amnesty International concluded that the Shah's CIA-trained security force, SAVAK, had the worst human rights record on the planet, and that the number and variety of torture techniques the CIA had taught SAVAK were "beyond belief." 1951-CIA involved in terror campaign against democratically elected Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. After Arbenz government is overthrown, CIA backed regimes murder more than 100,000 Guatemalans over the next 40 years

1961- CIA recruits 1500 Cuban exiles to invade Cuba and overthrow the Castro regime. The Pay of Pigs invasion would be a disaster, however the CIA would continue with more than two dozen attempts to kill Castro.

1963- The CIA have South Vietnemese president Ngo Dinh Diem overthrown and assasinated for supporting negotiations with the north. After 20 years of covert war the U.S. turns to direct military invasion, in a war that costs tens of thousands of Vietnemese, Cambodian and U.S. lives

1963- CIA recruits Iraqi Baath Party (including a young Saddam Hussein) to assasinate the new leader, Abdul-Karim Kassem. After the coup, the CIA gave the Baath a long list of communists and others to liquidate. During the 1980s the CIA would go on to help provide weapons to both Iraq and Iran in a war that would kill over one million people.

1965- CIA provokes a coup that leads to the overthrow of Indonesian leader Sukarno, who is replaced by General Suharto. In the follow ing weeks between 500,000 and one million people are murdered by death squads using lists provided by US State Department.

1973- After interfering in Chilean elections in 1958 and 1964, the CIA begins a campaign of sabotage and terror after leftist Salvadore Allende is elected president in 1970. In 1973, a CIA supported coup overthrew and assassinated Allende and installed fascist General Pinochet, resulting in thousands of murders over the next two decades. This year in France, former U.S. secretary of state, Henry Kissinger was served a (mostly symbolic) warrant for arrest as a war criminal for his role in the coup.

1979- After Nicaraguan dictator Samosa is overthrown in 1979, the CIA helps to train Samosa's National Guard into death squads known as the Contras. The Contras are used to terrorize rural Nicaragua while the US military blockades Nicaragua's harbors with mines. In 1989, after 10,000 deaths, the US is successful in ousting the Sandanista government.

1989- US invades Panama to overthrow and "arrest" Manuel Noriega, who has been on the CIA payroll since 1966 and supported through decades of drug running, political assassination and corrupt elections. After the invasion, which included the fire bombing of an entire urban ghetto, human rights observers uncover mass graves and estimate that over 4,000 died during the invasion.

1991- US and allies (mostly Britain) invade Iraq after U.S./CIA supported Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait. 200,000 Iraqis are killed, including over 400 civilians killed by two U.S. missiles in the Al-Amerya air shelter. Over the next 10 years another 400 tons of explosives will be dropped on Iraq killing another 300 civilians, and hundreds of thousands more starved through U.S. imposed sanctions. The U.S. forces Saudi Arabia to allow thousands of U.S. military to remain indefinitely within its boarders.

1998- Al Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan is bombed without warning by 13 U.S. cruise missiles killing a janitor. The attack deprives Sudan of desperately needed medical drugs and potentially killing tens of thousands of people. The CIA later admits that information linking the plant to Osama bin Laden was probably "incorrect."

Due limitations of space I have not included the U.S. support of Israeli acts of terror against Palestinians, the atomic bombing of 200,000 civilians in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the numerous other U.S. invasions south of the Rio Grande, the invasion of Grenada ,the 19th century war of terror against U.S. indigenous peoples or the 200 years of slave trade.

A Brief History of US-Sponsored Terrorism Abroad by Mark Zapezauer.

Source: The CIAs Greatest Hits by Mark Zapezauer
Third World Traveller
www.thirdworldtraveler.com

Taxes support terrorism. If you pay taxes, you do too.

After Shock Media 09-14-2007 10:23 PM

Are you playing 1 out of 100?

Few shall read that man.

minusonebit 09-14-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13089820)
Are you playing 1 out of 100?

Few shall read that man.

Why not? They read the 9/11 truth threads.

After Shock Media 09-14-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13089839)
Why not? They read the 9/11 truth threads.

Buhahaha sure they do :winkwink:
Watch the arguments they sure in hell are not reading what others are saying unless they are just skimming and picking out the four words that will support their arguement.

DaddyHalbucks 09-14-2007 11:00 PM

Generally a weak argument, although you do make a good point that our country has not had a perfect past.

The main weakness is that forty and fifty year old events have little to do with taxes today.

For the root of high taxes today, you want to look at union corruption, welfare fraud, and benefits for illegal aliens.

GreyWolf 09-14-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13089814)
Due limitations of space ...

Don't worry about the space :winkwink::thumbsup

Seriously - agree. Some of these "adventures" cost many innocent people their lives and others are still suffering the effects of torture and other injuries.

There are still people being murdered today by SOA-trained thugs - particularly women, - they are usually found with plastic bags over their heads. Others are cut up and limbs dumped in trash bins.

The fact that SOA still exists today (tho renamed out of embarassment) is a damning indictment for any supposedly civilized nation.

Sure taxes have supported terrorism and a far worse track record than any of the popular "terrorist" orgs. Seriously sad shit :disgust

GreyWolf 09-14-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13089938)
The main weakness is that forty and fifty year old events have little to do with taxes today.

What the fuck are you talking about now???

Who is talking about 40-50 year old events?? The same shit is happening today idiot and people are still suffering and being murdered.

They don't give one flying fuck what your opinions may be either :disgust

theking 09-14-2007 11:23 PM

It took alot of effort to become the worlds only superpower and it takes alot of effort to maintain that position...but being number one is a good thing for us Americans...now isn't it Americans?

minusonebit 09-14-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13089938)
The main weakness is that forty and fifty year old events have little to do with taxes today.

So by that logic, in 2030, 9-11 will be irrelevant and not important? Though I suppose you are probably right, people have real short term memories. Few remember the biggest issues of the day that happened just a few decades ago. Hell, I bet there are few that remember with any clarity the energy crisis of the 1980s, even with oil prices where they are today.

pocketkangaroo 09-15-2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13089938)
Generally a weak argument, although you do make a good point that our country has not had a perfect past.

The main weakness is that forty and fifty year old events have little to do with taxes today.

For the root of high taxes today, you want to look at union corruption, welfare fraud, and benefits for illegal aliens.

You couldn't be farther from the truth.

Welfare payments account for just over 1% of our federal budget. Even at a fraud rate of 10% (which is way higher than estimates), welfare fraud accounts for 0.1% of our federal spending.

Unions hurt businesses more than our government. And in any case, unions are used to protect employees from getting completely shit on. Still, please tell me how union corruption adds to our federal spending.

As for events that happened in the past having nothing to do with today's taxes, you are so wrong it's sad. 19% of our budget goes to pay interest on our debt. That is more money than we spend on education, public housing, job training, and veteran benefits COMBINED. So when a President spends a shitload of money on complete and utter bullshit, we still pay for it 30-40 years later. Lets not forget that it's the Republican administrations that have run up the most debt.

But that doesn't even come close to touching our military spending which is near 30%. 10 times what we spend on education. We also spend a shitload on Medicare, thanks to a sweet bill your Republican cronies passed for the Pharm companies that doesn't allow us to negotiate prices (despite the immense buying power).

So you want to know why taxes are high? Because we have a shitload of fucking debt that we pay interest on. Because we give tax cuts to any company that donates to our politicians. For fuck sakes, NewsCorp didn't pay a dime in taxes 2 out of the past 4 years. That means I paid more in taxes than the billion dollar NewsCorp in 2 of the past 4 years. We give Exxon and other energy companies HUGE tax cuts while they rake in record profits. Corporate taxes only account for 10% of our tax revenue, while the workers pay for the rest.

I'd love to hear you respond and tell me how the 1% of our spending you listed is somehow responsible for our high taxes. But you won't respond, because if it's not written on some conservative blog, you can't form a thought on your own.

Porn Farmer 09-15-2007 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13089938)
For the root of high taxes today, you want to look at union corruption, welfare fraud, and benefits for illegal aliens.

Who do you think is paying for that trillion dollar war in Iraq?

You are a deluded sonofabitch.

Porn Farmer 09-15-2007 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13090001)
It took alot of effort to become the worlds only superpower and it takes alot of effort to maintain that position...but being number one is a good thing for us Americans...now isn't it Americans?

China could destroy your economy in the blink of an eye.

pocketkangaroo 09-15-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 13090178)
China could destroy your economy in the blink of an eye.

How would they do that?

bobby666 09-15-2007 12:37 AM

thanks for infos

theking 09-15-2007 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13090181)
How would they do that?

Yes...please tell us how they would do that?

The Sultan Of Smut 09-15-2007 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 13090001)
It took alot of effort to become the worlds only superpower and it takes alot of effort to maintain that position...but being number one is a good thing for us Americans...now isn't it Americans?

I'm happier to be sitting in #8, I get all the McDonalds and Stalone and none of the drawbacks :)

theking 09-15-2007 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13090219)
Yes...please tell us how they would do that?

I guess we do not get an answer...or was the statement just pigshit?

GreyWolf 09-15-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 13090523)
I'm happier to be sitting in #8, I get all the McDonalds and Stalone and none of the drawbacks :)

The irony is your economy is far stronger at allegedly #8 with a market performance of over five-fold over 5 years, excellent future prospects and no problem attracting investment.

Of course, to achieve this enviable position at #8, you don't rely on borrowing $12bill/day from other nations to stay afloat, (including $3bill from the Central Bank of China alone), actually have a trade balance and produce real goods - and 45% of your economy is not owned by other nations.

Obviously you are very modest claiming #8 - others just make claims, blow wind and boast - talk is cheap :winkwink:


PS And your taxes do not support terrorism :thumbsup

D 09-15-2007 09:52 AM

What you view as "terrorism" can rgeatly depend what your point of view.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

That's why having a "War on Terror" is laughable, at best.


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