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Quick Buck 10-06-2007 01:41 PM

QuickBuck Zango Pop response...
 
1) GFY users account for about 1% of our joins and traffic. I don't really care if you pull sigs or links. Have a field day in the zoo jumping up and down screaming "down with quickbuck"... You guys did a great job with AFF.. boy you taught them a big lesson... i think I saw lars begging for paypal donations in another thread recently (catch the sarcasm cause i'm laying it on thick).

2) You can absolutely link to join pages with quickbuck.. just add "/join" to the end of the link code.. some of the join pages go straight into our processor page.. some go to graphical join pages. Depend's on the site.

3) We have over 250 sites... only about half of which are listed.. if you ask us we can enable other sites for you. It's how we keep sites from getting oversaturated. We add about a site a week on average.. unannounced.

4) It absolutely is *not* us buying the traffic. If we get a subpoena for the information then we'll be happy to provide it... and I think you'd all be suprised who the affiliate really *is*.. but we don't turn over that kind of information without a court order... and no, i don't mean the court of gfy.

5) When the screen shot was posted, it did not include a nats code that would allow us to actually look up the account. The first time I saw it I didn't even know what it was because it said "hotbar".

6) There are probably other affiliates out there buying traffic to our sites via zango... if it gets brought to our attention we'll ban the affiliate.

People.. get real, this faux-drama got posted as an anonymously hosted screenshot at a free image hosting service on a weekend with no affiliate code. We ended up finding the offending affiliate by digging up the member id through the database.

If we had some history of bidding on zango I guess I'd assume the worst too... but I do not believe anybody has ever claimed we buy Zango traffic before.

Finallly... for those of you who like to spout assumptions as though they are facts....QuickBuck does not generate our own traffic and never has. 100% of our traffic is affiliate driven, we don't mail, don't bid on ppc, don't buy gallery spots etc..etc.. etc..

If i were so inclined I could buy traffic to twisty's to pop over the hun... is it Shap's fault if I do that? How would he know if nobody reported it?

Don't believe us? I guess thats your choice... but we're paying $50 on free trials til 2008 and a hell of a lot of people are cleaning up.

Don't be a sheep and let the "revshare rangers" convince you that everybody smarter than them is bad.

Evil Chris 10-06-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
3) We have over 250 sites... only about half of which are listed.. if you ask us we can enable other sites for you. It's how we keep sites from getting oversaturated. We add about a site a week on average.. unannounced.

Hey I didn't know that. Exclusive content? Updated regular?

421Fill 10-06-2007 01:44 PM

hahahaha, this fucking place is so entertaining.

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 01:44 PM

not exclusive... but modern releases from really good studios.

jscott 10-06-2007 01:45 PM

So the affiliate you banned, he's making Quickbuck look bad too, making you guys come across as scammers, can you guys take legal action against him?

Dirty F 10-06-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
You guys did a great job with AFF.. boy you taught them a big lesson...

:1orglaugh

Hahaha so true. About 20 posts a day and the result is theyre doing better than ever.

WiredGuy 10-06-2007 01:46 PM

Do you have other celeb join pages that's not published in the webmaster area I could link to?
WG

RawAlex 10-06-2007 01:46 PM

Quick Buck, if GFY is 1% of your business, why don't you just leave?

mikeyddddd 10-06-2007 01:47 PM


WiredGuy 10-06-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 13198169)
So the affiliate you banned, he's making Quickbuck look bad too, making you guys come across as scammers, can you guys take legal action against him?

The affiliate was termed...
WG

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 13198169)
So the affiliate you banned, he's making Quickbuck look bad too, making you guys come across as scammers, can you guys take legal action against him?

we probably could. i dont like suing people... only people who get rich are the lawyers.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 01:55 PM

No, the only people who get rich are the programs that accept traffic from "rogue affiliates" and then terminate them only when it is revealed in public.

Anyone want to take bets on another "rogue affiliates" coming up in the next 24 hours?

dig420 10-06-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
1) GFY users account for about 1% of our joins and traffic. I don't really care if you pull sigs or links. Have a field day in the zoo jumping up and down screaming "down with quickbuck"... You guys did a great job with AFF.. boy you taught them a big lesson... i think I saw lars begging for paypal donations in another thread recently (catch the sarcasm cause i'm laying it on thick).

Absolutely correct. Screaming on GFY = nothing ~ if you're not ready to call a lawyer you might as well just say nothing at all.

Rui 10-06-2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 13198160)
Hey I didn't know that. Exclusive content? Updated regular?

:1orglaugh ...

I think you meant to say recycled among the whole "paysite network" :winkwink:

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:01 PM

Hey Quick Buck,how about you address the issues of sites like this:

http://www.anjalikara.org/

Packed full of content stolen from other programs and cropped to lose the logos, and used entirely to promote your program?

Any ideas?

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 02:02 PM

Alex.. we ban no less than 20 affiliates a week. If you write me a 8 figure check you can take a look at our stats and verify it.

Til then you're just a nice guy who doesnt run an affiliate program, and as such knows very little about what goes into it.

Pay people $50 per signup, offer free trials, promise fast payouts and you are certain to be the first place people looking for a "quickbuck" turn to.

Ray@TastyDollars 10-06-2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13198216)
Hey Quick Buck,how about you address the issues of sites like this:

http://www.anjalikara.org/

Packed full of content stolen from other programs and cropped to lose the logos, and used entirely to promote your program?

Any ideas?


You mean like this? www.tastytara.org

will76 10-06-2007 02:03 PM

Here is the thing I find interesting. As soon as this was posted, Someone with Zango on their PC said that the "person" using zango stopped poping up over ccbill / epoch. Quickbuck can teminate the "affiliates" account but they can't stop making the zango end pop up happen. The person who has the zango account would have to log in and do that. So it just so happened that the person stopped his zango campaign and then Quickbuck came in and posted the affiliate was banned. If this is the case then the affiliate wouldn't stop using zango. You deposit money into your account there pay up front. He would just keep targeting ccbill and epoch and use another affiliate. Seems strange both happened at the same time and the zango use is no longer happening.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars (Post 13198223)
You mean like this? www.tastytara.org


Yup, two clicks to quick buck. Nice stuff. Now I know why he only gets 1% of his traffic from GFY, because the rest appears to be coming from that stuff.

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13198216)
Hey Quick Buck,how about you address the issues of sites like this:

http://www.anjalikara.org/

Packed full of content stolen from other programs and cropped to lose the logos, and used entirely to promote your program?

Any ideas?

Send me some proof that it's not content that the guy bought and i'll take action on it. To me it looks like somebody who is building galleries.

I don't ban affiliates based on heresay.... and no... 1000 posts of heresay does not make it any more real.

RP Fade 10-06-2007 02:06 PM

On a side note, I was just researching some keywords and Zango is buying top spots on practically every keyword I looked up.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198231)
Send me some proof that it's not content that the guy bought and i'll take action on it. To me it looks like somebody who is building galleries.

I don't ban affiliates based on heresay.... and no... 1000 posts of heresay does not make it any more real.

Umm, Ray? Would you care to explain to this guy where the content comes from?

Must be another "rogue affiliate".

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13198226)
Here is the thing I find interesting. As soon as this was posted, Someone with Zango on their PC said that the "person" using zango stopped poping up over ccbill / epoch. Quickbuck can teminate the "affiliates" account but they can't stop making the zango end pop up happen. The person who has the zango account would have to log in and do that. So it just so happened that the person stopped his zango campaign and then Quickbuck came in and posted the affiliate was banned. If this is the case then the affiliate wouldn't stop using zango. You deposit money into your account there pay up front. He would just keep targeting ccbill and epoch and use another affiliate. Seems strange both happened at the same time and the zango use is no longer happening.

We notified the affiliate that we were banning their account.

I don't know if they are going to keep promoting that way or not. Not my business. I would guess they are just busy finding another sponsor.

jscott 10-06-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars (Post 13198223)
You mean like this? www.tastytara.org

the guy with those sites is known to use everyone's content to promote other sites, he does this with a LOT of sites i've seen :disgust

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 02:10 PM

Alex, go jump off a bridge.

I would attack you but lonely fat middle aged men making $30k a year and hanging out with 18 year old kids on porno message boards don't have much take away by attacking them.

We're reasonable business people.. if somebody is doing something that is somehow infringing on your rights and you think we're involved then feel free to send an email to webmaster@ or vip@ quickbuck.com and we will happily and professionally handle it.

GFY is not our support department.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 13198244)
the guy with those sites is known to use everyone's content to promote other sites, he does this with a LOT of sites i've seen :disgust

it only works because the program owners getting the sales are more than willing to turn a blind eye to obvious content lifting.

RawAlex 10-06-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198250)
Alex, go jump off a bridge.

I would attack you but lonely fat middle aged men making $30k a year and hanging out with 18 year old kids on porno message boards don't have much take away by attacking them.

We're reasonable business people.. if somebody is doing something that is somehow infringing on your rights and you think we're involved then feel free to send an email to webmaster@ or vip@ quickbuck.com and we will happily and professionally handle it.

GFY is not our support department.

I just checked with my girlfriend. I am not yet middle ages, I ain't lonely, and last time I checked I made more than 30k last year.

How about instead of personal attacks you address issues?

I have an idea for your company, a new tagline: "Want to make a Quick Buck? Steal it from someone else!"

TheSwed 10-06-2007 02:16 PM

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Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 02:17 PM

:Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap

Quick Buck 10-06-2007 02:17 PM

I'm happy to address the issues. Just not here on GFY because this is gfy, not the quickbuck support department. If ray has an issue, i'm sure he can contact me on icq or email like a big boy.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 02:19 PM

Quickbuck giving explanations to the peanut gallery won't stop em dude.

Go enjoy the weekend.
The Retards just been on a shit storm attacking anything they can lately.
The explaining just gives them little hardons for the attention.

Ya wont miss any traffic no matter what they say or you say.
These guys dont matter.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198241)
We notified the affiliate that we were banning their account.

I don't know if they are going to keep promoting that way or not. Not my business. I would guess they are just busy finding another sponsor.

ok, i hate people who use zango, not siding with quickbuck here, but i do have to say, it would be stupid for this user to keep the zango popping till he found a new sponsor to promote through it, as he is paying for that, and its worthless to send traffic to quickbuck if he knows its gonna gonna do anything for him...

Casa Nova 10-06-2007 02:28 PM

This board provides entertainment daily.. Hopefully everyone gets this resolved.

Dirty F 10-06-2007 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13198263)
I just checked with my girlfriend. I am not yet middle ages, I ain't lonely, and last time I checked I made more than 30k last year.

How about instead of personal attacks you address issues?

I have an idea for your company, a new tagline: "Want to make a Quick Buck? Steal it from someone else!"

Hey Rawidiot, shut the fuck up moron.

will76 10-06-2007 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198241)
We notified the affiliate that we were banning their account.

I don't know if they are going to keep promoting that way or not. Not my business. I would guess they are just busy finding another sponsor.



damn what a nice guy you are. You gave him a heads up you would be banning him. Lucky him, he was able to stop the account so he wouldlt waste any traffic. Interesting. Did you keep his money? How long was he an affiliate did he just signup and start doing this ? So no warning who the guy is so the next company wont be screwed?

SleazyDream 10-06-2007 02:34 PM

is the guy posting as quick buck pimpdog?

DjiXas 10-06-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198231)
Send me some proof that it's not content that the guy bought and i'll take action on it. To me it looks like somebody who is building galleries.

I don't ban affiliates based on heresay.... and no... 1000 posts of heresay does not make it any more real.

OK... I thnk it your fucking job to do that but not GFY members, don't you think so?

It's like: Show affiliates who are cheating and I will ban them. WTF? That's why ppl in company get $ for, TO DO THEIR JOB.

Forkbeard 10-06-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198250)
Alex, go jump off a bridge.

*snip*

We're reasonable business people.

One of these things is not like the other... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13198363)
is the guy posting as quick buck pimpdog?

trey has shitty spelling via his crappy wireless keyboard, Quick Buck looks like he can spell, and is smarter then a 5th grader... :2 cents:

Quickdraw 10-06-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
1) 5) When the screen shot was posted, it did not include a nats code that would allow us to actually look up the account. The first time I saw it I didn't even know what it was because it said "hotbar".

You paid no attention to the original post that stated that Hotbar == Zango?:helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
People.. get real, this faux-drama got posted as an anonymously hosted screenshot at a free image hosting service on a weekend with no affiliate code. We ended up finding the offending affiliate by digging up the member id through the database.

The member id is 41631. XXXpass bookmark id is/was 42059.
Most certainly not faux drama. You guys are certainly no strangers to scumware. Remember everyone, the person that owns idownload.com, also owns quickbuck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
If we had some history of bidding on zango I guess I'd assume the worst too... but I do not believe anybody has ever claimed we buy Zango traffic before.

Who knows, but you are most definitely affiliated with the spyware industry.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
Finallly... for those of you who like to spout assumptions as though they are facts....QuickBuck does not generate our own traffic and never has. 100% of our traffic is affiliate driven, we don't mail, don't bid on ppc, don't buy gallery spots etc..etc.. etc..

Yeap, you guys don't use the spyware companies you own to drive/steal any traffic.. Must have pissed you guys off to hear about the ruling that made it a bit harder for scumware companies to sue places like castlecops, etc.. Anyone can lookup the history of idownload and see the games that are played, including trying to strongarm places that report you(idownload) as scumware.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
If i were so inclined I could buy traffic to twisty's to pop over the hun... is it Shap's fault if I do that? How would he know if nobody reported it?

the rhetoric doesn't make you look any better.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
Don't be a sheep and let the "revshare rangers" convince you that everybody smarter than them is bad.

Buying someones join pages through scumware doesn't make one smart, it makes one a crook.

Wiseman 10-06-2007 04:21 PM

Im going to go clean my Chopper I baught with the blood $ from My company Zango. And Get it ready for a Show. have a good weekend. I hope we dont go under because of this. have a good weekend. We are done here.

Snake Doctor 10-06-2007 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
1) GFY users account for about 1% of our joins and traffic. I don't really care if you pull sigs or links.

Not trying to pick a fight or anything, but if GFY users are so worthless, why do you pay $2500+ a month to be a top banner advertiser here?

Isn't it a contradiction to have a banner flying here, and get your promos stickied, and have threads where you give away money to people who post so they'll stay on the front page, and then say that we're useless and you could care less if we send you traffic? :helpme

mikeyddddd 10-06-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13198775)
Im going to go clean my Chopper I baught with the blood $ from My company Zango. And Get it ready for a Show. have a good weekend. I hope we dont go under because of this. have a good weekend. We are done here.

http://s.yottamusic.com/i/alXl.62gy/375x375

Eat a peach

dig420 10-06-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13198775)
Im going to go clean my Chopper I baught with the blood $ from My company Zango. And Get it ready for a Show. have a good weekend. I hope we dont go under because of this. have a good weekend. We are done here.

ie "Fuck you, what are you gonna do about it??" hahahahahaha

gotta admire the nutsack on this guy

BlackCrayon 10-06-2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198153)
1) GFY users account for about 1% of our joins and traffic. I don't really care if you pull sigs or links. Have a field day in the zoo jumping up and down screaming "down with quickbuck"... You guys did a great job with AFF.. boy you taught them a big lesson... i think I saw lars begging for paypal donations in another thread recently (catch the sarcasm cause i'm laying it on thick).

Yep, most of quickbucks sales come from other programs exits and upsells. If you want to pull down links for quickbuck you might as well do it for the programs who use them in their exits and upsells too because thats the way to show that this kind of shit is not tolerated.

I would love to believe they are innocent but 9 times out of 10 other programs who have pulled the same shit were eventually proven to be the ones behind it.

Swish 10-06-2007 05:17 PM

Congrats to the winners :1orglaugh

Lord Aga 10-06-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 13198231)
Send me some proof that it's not content that the guy bought and i'll take action on it. To me it looks like somebody who is building galleries.

I don't ban affiliates based on heresay.... and no... 1000 posts of heresay does not make it any more real.

The content on anjalikara.org is exclusive to us from our site http://anjali.uncovered.com Now kill his account please :)

Yeah right!

Quickdraw 10-06-2007 05:30 PM

-----The member id is 41631. XXXpass bookmark id is/was 42059.----
This needs clarification.

The thieving popup affiliate id is 41631.
Typein traffic to quickbuck's xxxpass gets id 42059

Long time affiliate?

NinjaSteve 10-06-2007 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13198226)
Here is the thing I find interesting. As soon as this was posted, Someone with Zango on their PC said that the "person" using zango stopped poping up over ccbill / epoch. Quickbuck can teminate the "affiliates" account but they can't stop making the zango end pop up happen. The person who has the zango account would have to log in and do that. So it just so happened that the person stopped his zango campaign and then Quickbuck came in and posted the affiliate was banned. If this is the case then the affiliate wouldn't stop using zango. You deposit money into your account there pay up front. He would just keep targeting ccbill and epoch and use another affiliate. Seems strange both happened at the same time and the zango use is no longer happening.

If you spend money on advertising... ppc, bannner listings, etc, then I'm sure you're looking at your stats constantly. If something happens and you see you're banned wouldn't you pull your advertising right away if you could so you're not wasting money? I'm sure this is what's happening.

Common Sense 10-06-2007 05:46 PM

gotta love seeing them call themselves reasonable business people. the same company that had a guy throw a chair out of a window at a show and spit in someones face. the same company that peddled so much spyware that it brought heat from the government. or the same reasonable business people that sold out their affiliates to microsoft to avoid a lawsuit.

you work with these guys, you get what you deserve


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