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Kard63 12-02-2007 11:52 PM

Someone is trying to sell me a blacklsited domain
 
Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?

Snake Doctor 12-02-2007 11:59 PM

why take the risk? I would pass

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-03-2007 12:00 AM

the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

datatank 12-03-2007 12:05 AM

You can get it added back in super easy.

DBS.US 12-03-2007 12:08 AM

How much money are we talking about?

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2007 12:28 AM

without some sort of intervention on google's part it takes a long time to get out of the penalty.

although i suspect that the type of penalty that resulted in the ban has alot to do with how long the ban lasts.

I can def give you some real life insight .

I own a domain that was banned roughly 3 years ago from google.

it became unbanned some time in the last 6 months or so.

I noticed that new pages were taking a long time to get spidered. so i bought a new domain and made basically an identical setup to the other domain to see how fast google spidered and listed.

It seems that the domain google had previously banned and unbanned has a "hidden" penalty , the pages get spidered slowly but fail to obtain any traffic, brand new domain gets spidered faster and rank quicker.

papill0n 12-03-2007 12:28 AM

I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

datatank 12-03-2007 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13462606)
I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.

d-null 12-03-2007 12:58 AM

it's been said that adult domains have a harder time getting unbanned from google

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-03-2007 01:13 AM

i bought a domain back 8 or 9 months back which google had banned. i submitted to be reindexed, and after 4 months still nothing. i fired some emails around to no avail. i wound up just letting the domain drop. some people seem to get lucky and others just don't...

Zester 12-03-2007 01:16 AM

why buy a blacklisted domain ? the only reason I see is for reselling it

justFred 12-03-2007 01:19 AM

from what I understand if you are not the person who owned the domain when google banned it AND they can verify this, then Google will bring you out of the sandbox very quickly.

how much green are we talking about here? It was blacklisted so I wouldn't pay more than 20% what it would be worth if it weren't, just in case. If the dude has a problem with that, tell him to take a hike.

d-null 12-03-2007 01:39 AM

I had a blacklisted domain on the same server as some of my other sites, then I started to wonder about the whole "bad neighborhood" concept and just took it off and parked it.... it's a really good domain name too, and aged and all (8 years old, but of course being banned, that means diddly squat)

StarkReality 12-03-2007 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 13462521)
Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?

If there is an owner change (along with host, nameservers, IP) simply file a reinclusion request, but make sure the site is really clean. Keep in mind that google doesn't really like "thin affiliates", so if it's an adult site, it should have some really good content...or the request will be ignored. Although being a "thin affiliate" doesn't necessarily get a domain banned, it definitely prevents reinclusion. Thin affiliate basically means that you have no own content and rely on third party content and affiliate programs.

I yet have to see a domain that doesn't come back automatically, but as Smokey said, it takes many years, one of mine took 5 years, 2002 to 2007 till it finally appeared in the SERPs again (was cleaned and filled with new content in 2002 already). Same observation: It still suffers in some way, the pages crawled seem to rank normally, but new pages are only crawled sporadically.

d-null 12-03-2007 02:36 AM

any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?

Barefootsies 12-03-2007 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts (Post 13462538)
the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

Not always true.

Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

:2 cents:

justFred 12-03-2007 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 13462832)
any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?

google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS

d-null 12-03-2007 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justFred (Post 13463015)
google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS

I was thinking that, although I wonder if you put them on the same server and 301'd if they would associate and penalize somehow

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2007 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 13462624)
Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.

actually i did. i changed registrars, name servers , and hosts as well

justFred 12-03-2007 05:27 AM

I can't remember where I found the information, but it mentioned specifically that google will NEVER penalize you for a 301 redirect. I think in the article it did mention that google might not transfer your link juice to the new domain under xyz conditions... but I don't recall.

I just know they they won't ban you, etc.

d-null 12-03-2007 06:07 AM

with google, the complete bans don't worry me as much as the "little" manual tweaking that seems to happen that puts a wrench into the best laid plans

Kard63 12-03-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13462867)
Not always true.

Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

:2 cents:

faxed the docs to google legal ?

brand0n 12-03-2007 08:50 AM

depends on the domain really.

Barefootsies 12-05-2007 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 13463480)
faxed the docs to google legal ?

Right.

I had a site that was sandboxed, and to get it out of there, I had to fax some paper work over to Google's legal department. It took 3-4 months, but it was out of the sand box, and back on page 1 in no time. :winkwink:

But.. it wasn't for 301 redirect.

V_RocKs 12-05-2007 10:17 AM

ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

Go figure!

Barefootsies 12-05-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13473795)
ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

Go figure!

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