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cachondo 12-14-2007 10:35 AM

Don't use Livejasmin/AWempire.. a big shit!
 
I know a few AWEmpire workers are around here. I'll explain the title of my thread..

I've a website with livejasmin and I made a lot of users in the % program..
I earn around 100$ first months, and a few months later around 400-500$..

I create an user and I put money, at stats all is ok.. but other month when I put money into my account.. not appears into my webmaster account!!!

I wrote awempire support and they told me who if I delete my cookies the transactions of my users aren't into my webmaster account..

THIS IS NOT CORRECT.. BECAUSE U CAN KNOW THE TRANSACTIONS OF MY USERS WITHOUT COOKIES, AND THEY'RE MY USERS BECAUSE I'M INTO THE % PROGRAM.

PEOPLE, PLEASE NOT USE AWEMPIRE, THEY'VE GOOD GIRLS BUT YOU'LL NEVER EARN BIG MONEY. :321GFY

EDIT: my account id is franbc, and I've screenshots to demostrate what I write here.

Shaze 12-14-2007 10:37 AM

Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

Damian_Maxcash 12-14-2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13514227)
Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.

cachondo 12-14-2007 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514241)
It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.


14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

Niktamer 12-14-2007 10:44 AM

this is the reason i stopped to use them even if they convert damn good.

this policies probably cost them more than they make.

pornguy 12-14-2007 10:47 AM

Check out EpicCams.com We have amazing retention with the cam program.

Click the link in my sig.

Shaze 12-14-2007 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cachondo (Post 13514259)
14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

That is a problem then. AWE has always been accused of being shavers by alot of people. All you can do is just stop using them.

cachondo 12-14-2007 10:50 AM

Yes, they're a big shit, surely they earn a big money.. scamming webmasters.

I'm searching a cam program with spanish/english language by % who pays by epassporte.

I deleted all the banners of livejasmin into my site right now

will76 12-14-2007 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cachondo (Post 13514259)
14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

from everything i have read about them it is a FACT that they have a 14 day cookie. The only way you have people with them longer than 14 days is if the person keeps coming back to your site and the cookie keeps getting reset.

The only way I would ever consider using something as retarded as a 14 day cookie is if I had a white label site where people never made it to AWE's site. The url they knew was mine, if they were going to spend money or watch girls on cam they would go to MY url, so this way the cookie would always be updated and you wouldn't lose sales. However that isn't the way it works. People like yourself send them traffic and then those customers go to livejasmine when they go back to spend money. if they never go back to your site (they dont need to) then you lose them after 14 days.

:warning:upsidedow

lazycash 12-14-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cachondo (Post 13514288)
Yes, they're a big shit, surely they earn a big money.. scamming webmasters.

I'm searching a cam program with spanish/english language by % who pays by epassporte.

I deleted all the banners of livejasmin into my site right now

Lol, you fucked yourself, AWE only pays for the first 14 days on their revshare program. If you are going to promote revshare cams, at least promote a program that pays for the life of the customer, not the first two weeks.

BradM 12-14-2007 10:56 AM

Hm, easy way to steal sales methinks.

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13514286)
That is a problem then. AWE has always been accused of being shavers by alot of people. All you can do is just stop using them.

who accused awe of shaving ? who are these "alot of people"

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514241)
It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.

i like how people make up facts , where did anyone deny the 14 day cookie?

the awe crew has told people multiple times about the 14 day cookie, i have never seen them deny it

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13514298)
from everything i have read about them it is a FACT that they have a 14 day cookie. The only way you have people with them longer than 14 days is if the person keeps coming back to your site and the cookie keeps getting reset.

The only way I would ever consider using something as retarded as a 14 day cookie is if I had a white label site where people never made it to AWE's site. The url they knew was mine, if they were going to spend money or watch girls on cam they would go to MY url, so this way the cookie would always be updated and you wouldn't lose sales. However that isn't the way it works. People like yourself send them traffic and then those customers go to livejasmine when they go back to spend money. if they never go back to your site (they dont need to) then you lose them after 14 days.

:warning:upsidedow

:thumbsup:thumbsup very good points. the 14 day cookie is stupid , tons of people don't use them just because of it.. i also dont think you can call a program revshare if its 14 days, it should be called "14day-revshare" or just switched to pps , or something different like $20 pps plus %50 of rebills for a week

Damian_Maxcash 12-14-2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13514360)
i like how people make up facts , where did anyone deny the 14 day cookie?

the awe crew has told people multiple times about the 14 day cookie, i have never seen them deny it

There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be :)

Roald 12-14-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 13514227)
Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

On average I think we still make more with the % option than if we would go PPS, so allthough I don't like the 2 week cookie I don't think PPS is always the way to go. I should change the links to pps for a while to be sure.

Shaze 12-14-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514379)
There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be :)

it says it right in their TOS or Rules or whatever you call it.

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514379)
There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be :)

i think what youre thinking is that lots of people have said " theres no way they would do that , that it stupid" obviously none of these are awe reps.

i think its important if you are putting words into people's mouths by saying " it has been confirmed and denied many times " that you do it correctly.

it has been confirmed multiple times by the awe crew and they have never denied it, thus saying they denied and confirmed it is false.

i am not bustin your chops ( ok well maybe a little ) , just want to make it clear.

I am no fan of the 14 day cookie as i pointed out above , but no need to rub salt in a wound by making false allegations right

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 13514412)
On average I think we still make more with the % option than if we would go PPS, so allthough I don't like the 2 week cookie I don't think PPS is always the way to go. I should change the links to pps for a while to be sure.

so do i , and because they arent "hiding" the fact , i still use them , i dont like it , but they pay better than other cam sponsors pps or rev.

its sad when you get a whale and they vanish after a couple weeks and you know they are still spending but those whales are much harder to get with other cam sponsors .

"100% of zero is still zero even if its lifetime revshare"

cachondo 12-14-2007 12:19 PM

ok.. all posts are good.

but the question is.. BECAUSE?

Because they use the 14 day cookie? to help webmasters .. or to fuck webmasters and earn a lot of money without pay for traffic? (with the users who we send)

what is the reason? a sponsor what search? help webmaster to earn money or fuck webmasters and scam the money? if I get stats of my users in all the time.. probably I win a lot of money, not a shit of 300$/month

Yeah, they've good content and good system, but this method of revenue is a shit and the program never will be good..

CarlosTheGaucho 12-14-2007 12:40 PM

Well I also believe it's a well known issue that was never denied, but of course I can imagine wouldn't want to get into a position when I would send them the traffic without knowing it.

But it's up to AWE.

I believe VISIT-X should fit your needs, not sure if they pay with epass but they are good people.

On another note, I am looking for someone with a bit of knowledge of the spanish online market, you think we could get in touch and chat a bit anytime soon?

will76 12-14-2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13514458)
i think what youre thinking is that lots of people have said " theres no way they would do that , that it stupid" obviously none of these are awe reps.

i think its important if you are putting words into people's mouths by saying " it has been confirmed and denied many times " that you do it correctly.

it has been confirmed multiple times by the awe crew and they have never denied it, thus saying they denied and confirmed it is false.

i am not bustin your chops ( ok well maybe a little ) , just want to make it clear.

I am no fan of the 14 day cookie as i pointed out above , but no need to rub salt in a wound by making false allegations right

Damian is just a drunk. He will tell you " lots of people have said that" and there is likely none. He is the same idiot that posted repeatedly that I was being paid by clickcash to bash AFF. Something he should have been banned for since he has no proof since it is not true.

I wouldn't waste your time explaining anything to him. Once he gets something set in his mind there is no changing it no matter how wrong he is.

will76 12-14-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13514468)
so do i , and because they arent "hiding" the fact , i still use them , i dont like it , but they pay better than other cam sponsors pps or rev.

its sad when you get a whale and they vanish after a couple weeks and you know they are still spending but those whales are much harder to get with other cam sponsors .

"100% of zero is still zero even if its lifetime revshare"


you know what is even more sad is when YOU were the person with the good traffic that got the whale to signup. YOU brought him to AWE but you only get him for 14 days. Then you have someone with millions of hits from trash traffic, your whale happens across their site, even if it is just for a couple seconds, but their cookie is put on your "ex" whale's pc. Now your ex whale goes to LiveJasmine like he does everyday but the guy with bulk trash traffic makes well from it, for 14 days at least.

There reason why I think this type of system is retarded is because it rewards the people with bulk traffic, who never have to generate an "inital" sale of their own. But people with less, quality traffic who bring new customers to the company only get the benefit of having them for 14 days. Doesn't make sense to me. :warning

dozey 12-14-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514379)
There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be :)

Simply checking the facts would never suffice of course.

http://www.epimper.com/livejasmincookie.png

Fat Panda 12-14-2007 12:53 PM

never in my life will i promote a 14 day revshare plan...basically after 14 days they are hijacking my traffic/referral....what a bunch of stale donkey shit mother fucking cocksucking bull piss shit!

Damian_Maxcash 12-14-2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13514809)
Damian is just a drunk. He will tell you " lots of people have said that" and there is likely none. He is the same idiot that posted repeatedly that I was being paid by clickcash to bash AFF. Something he should have been banned for since he has no proof since it is not true.

I wouldn't waste your time explaining anything to him. Once he gets something set in his mind there is no changing it no matter how wrong he is.

Get over it Will....

I dont agree with everything you say, sorry about that. Sometimes you fail to see the bigger picture, or perhaps you just dont want to see it.

The first post I made was my attempt at being diplomatic. I wont bother in the future.

Damian_Maxcash 12-14-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozey (Post 13514838)
Simply checking the facts would never suffice of course......

I was trying to say that it is generaly known, but has been debated many times before.

Sorry if I failed to get that point accross..

dozey 12-14-2007 01:24 PM

Quote:

ohh opera looks nice in vista!

They've posted about their 14 day cookie many many times.
The firey screen capture doesn't do it much justice... but yes, it is pleasant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13514880)
I was trying to say that it is generaly known, but has been debated many times before.

Sorry if I failed to get that point accross..

Not at all, that's what I mean. Only on GFY could people manage to dispute something so obvious.

dav3 12-14-2007 01:26 PM

If you don't like AWE, then try out these other awesome cam sponsors.

Webcam Affiliate Programs:

just a punk 12-14-2007 01:31 PM

I'm also thinking to pull out all the AWW feeds from my blogs and paysite member's areas, because their cams don't convert for me anymore. Any good alternative instead of EpicCams (sorry Epic, bit I need the program that pays on epass)?

Matt 26z 12-14-2007 01:35 PM

AWE has posted here on GFY that affiliate webmasters do not deserve lifetime revshare. It was really one of the dumbest statements ever posted to the boards by a sponsor.

Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated. Did anyone really believe that? I hope not because a year or two was enough time to fix it if they had really wanted to.

Snakes.

pornask 12-14-2007 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13515005)
AWE has posted here on GFY that affiliate webmasters do not deserve lifetime revshare. It was really one of the dumbest statements ever posted to the boards by a sponsor.

Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated. Did anyone really believe that? I hope not because a year or two was enough time to fix it if they had really wanted to.

Snakes.

Oh boy, I have recently signed up with them. I'm not sure that's quite the sponsor I would like to promote. Someone advice of a good cam sponsor, but without spaming all of your affiliate links you currently have. Who's the best out there?

atom 12-14-2007 01:45 PM

Hey cachondo, HOTCAMS pays for life on the users you bring and we pay via epass weekly.

If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me.

Adam
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just a punk 12-14-2007 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13515005)
Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AWW guys, hire me and I'll fix that for NO CHARGE = zero dollars a hour :winkwink:

moogle 12-14-2007 02:17 PM

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie :mad:

dav3 12-14-2007 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogle (Post 13515166)
anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie :mad:

These are all Lifetime Revshare!
  • Moo Cash - $35-$50 PPS / 30%-35% Lifetime Revs / $25 + 20% PPS-Revs Hybrid
  • Money Tree - $40 PPS / 30% Lifetime Revs
  • Dating Gold - $35 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
  • Video Secrets - 20%-35% Lifetime Revshare 50% on VIP Sales
  • Camazon Cash - $40 PPS / 50% Lifetime Revshare
  • Cam Sense - 20%-40% Lifetime Revshare
  • Pussy Cash - $125 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
  • Webcams.com - $25 or $42 PPS / 25% site spending 60% subscription fees Lifetime Revshare
  • Live Bucks - 25%-40% Lifetime Revshare / $35-$100 PPS

will76 12-14-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogle (Post 13515166)
anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie :mad:

15?? why do you get 15 and everyone else gets 14. You must know someone in high places over there. :winkwink:

charlie g 12-14-2007 02:52 PM

I quite using awe because of their cookie policy. I have to say they converted better than anyone else I have tried so far.

moogle 12-14-2007 02:55 PM

Thanks dav! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13515370)
15?? why do you get 15 and everyone else gets 14. You must know someone in high places over there. :winkwink:

Oh right, I mean 14 sorry :(

dav3 12-14-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogle (Post 13515429)
Thanks dav! :thumbsup



Oh right, I mean 14 sorry :(

No problem. Hopefully there's something there you can use. :thumbsup

Jago Webcams 12-14-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogle (Post 13515166)
anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie :mad:

Webcams.com has 25% site spending revshare AND 60% of membership fees for the life of the member :thumbsup

AK 12-14-2007 04:09 PM

catch our next period promo
$150 PPS, we not use cookies.
We tag your account with the emails created by surfers.
Hit me up for more info.

Gary - AWP 12-14-2007 04:19 PM

I guess it is too much for this program to be honest and pay the webmaster for the effort he puts in...I am happy to see that there are still a lot of honest programs...it is better than being temporarily rich :-)

papill0n 12-14-2007 04:24 PM

Alot of better programs that reward the webmaster with true lifetime revshare.

cachondo 12-14-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13514803)
On another note, I am looking for someone with a bit of knowledge of the spanish online market, you think we could get in touch and chat a bit anytime soon?


sure, my email/msn is: [email protected]


and thanks to dav3 and atom I'll check the cam sponsors later

about the thread, I know they already tell about 14day cookie, it's in the awempire website, but I don't understand... really I can't find any reason for use it.. only scam the webmasters traffic, this is my problem, but well.. I'll search another cam sponsor.

I lost 1 year of quality traffic sending my users to livejasmin and much money because I sent people who pay a lot, but they'll lose webmasters (i'm one) and in a large time they'll lose more money.

just a punk 12-14-2007 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 13515186)
These are all Lifetime Revshare!
  • Moo Cash - $35-$50 PPS / 30%-35% Lifetime Revs / $25 + 20% PPS-Revs Hybrid
  • Money Tree - $40 PPS / 30% Lifetime Revs
  • Dating Gold - $35 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
  • Video Secrets - 20%-35% Lifetime Revshare 50% on VIP Sales
  • Camazon Cash - $40 PPS / 50% Lifetime Revshare
  • Cam Sense - 20%-40% Lifetime Revshare
  • Pussy Cash - $125 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
  • Webcams.com - $25 or $42 PPS / 25% site spending 60% subscription fees Lifetime Revshare
  • Live Bucks - 25%-40% Lifetime Revshare / $35-$100 PPS

Thanks a lot!

Antonio 12-14-2007 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogle (Post 13515166)
anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie :mad:


moenytree, use AWE for PPS, converts about 3 million times better than the ones you'll be spammed with in this thread

SmokeyTheBear 12-14-2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cachondo (Post 13516216)
about the thread, I know they already tell about 14day cookie, it's in the awempire website, but I don't understand... really I can't find any reason for use it.. only scam the webmasters traffic, this is my problem, but well.. I'll search another cam sponsor. .

if they tell you, then it's hardly a "scam" its just not good as revshare for life..

if you send 10k hits per month to AWE and make $3k per month on 14 day cookie

or
you send 10k hits to another sponsor and make $2k per month on lifetime revshare


what is better ?

dav3 12-14-2007 11:20 PM

The AWE cookie thing has it's good points, and of course it's bad points.

The good side to the 14day cookie, is that if you are a newer webmaster, you aren't stuck with the slim pickings of the new members to the cam sites. Let's face it, there are tons of badass webmasters that make shitloads of sales. Their cookies are only 14days, so their customers get put back in to the pool of potential profits. Were as if you were on lifetime revs, you wouldn't be able to scoop up those older cam customers. The secret (if you can call it that) with AWE is to build a site that makes the user come back and reset your cookie, not just generate click-thrus.

The bad side, off course it sucks to lose a whale of a customer. But on the flip, you could get some one else's whale next time.

I see everyone recommending using the PPS option for AWE. Honestly, it's a bad idea. The PPS uses a 30day cookie, plus the customer must have never bought credits from and AWE site before. So if a previous revshare customer signs up with your PPS link, you pretty much just screwed yourself and other webmasters also, since that signup won't count for you and essentially taken out of the pool.

woj 12-14-2007 11:38 PM

50 dramas...


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