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surferbob 12-15-2007 05:12 PM

when a credit card expires does the rebill also expire?
 
Hello all ... when a person gets a new visa card with same number but new expiry date will ccbill still be able to rebill.... been wondering if rebills die because of this... i have stats remote on the old expiry date so we will see what happens...i will report back...:pimp

who 12-15-2007 05:13 PM

Usually rebills are based on member, not on credit card, or am I wrong?

Iron Fist 12-15-2007 05:15 PM

Rebills continue... or else all those "seen on tv" ads selling late night crap.. would be buying everything on the last month of the card and then fucking off afterwards -- but that doesn't happen, because rebills continue.

woj 12-15-2007 05:17 PM

Rebill probably expires, new card has a different CVV, and so many billers wouldn't be able to bill that new card...

surferbob 12-15-2007 05:18 PM

most places need you to update the expiry date for them to bill ya... all my hosts billing area have an area to update expiry dates of the card... which let me to wonder if an old rebilling purchase with old expiry date ...will still go thru even tho the info was from 2 years ago (old card).

surferbob 12-15-2007 05:20 PM

i bet places like cc bill they continue but other companies probably not eh..

BigBen 12-15-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 13520010)
Rebill probably expires, new card has a different CVV, and so many billers wouldn't be able to bill that new card...

CVV isn't stored and makes no difference on rebills.

Rebills will continue as long as the processor submits the transaction.

Dopy 12-15-2007 05:56 PM

Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

xxxice 12-15-2007 07:27 PM

I think once the new info is put in your rebill = gone :Oh crap

But maybe not ;-)

L-Pink 12-15-2007 07:33 PM

That's a lot of different answers.

bobby666 12-15-2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy (Post 13520098)
Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

same opinion here

69pornlinks 12-15-2007 11:25 PM

it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

rowan 12-16-2007 02:25 AM

ccbill has successfully rebilled a card of mine with details that had expired. I was told if it fails with a particular error, they add 2 years to the date and try again.

spunkmaster 12-16-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy (Post 13520098)
Re-bills cannot continue without the card holder giving new card expire date.

Yes they can !

V/MC/Amex have programs to get the updated card info
without the customers involvement if the merchant signs up for it.

The transaction numbers have to be pretty high volume but it
saves millions !

PornDiscounts-R 12-16-2007 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks (Post 13520767)
it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

Not sure how big a differens there is from country to country on this. I would say that rebills can`t continue. true, even with a new card you still get the same account number, but the card number changes. And it is that all billers use. New card = new cc number and no more rebill from what i know.

But way to many different answer here, will write ccbill and ask for sure to be 100% clear on this.

Calvinguy 12-16-2007 02:52 AM

Some people are really idiots

DeadFidel 12-16-2007 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy (Post 13521071)
Some people are really idiots

:1orglaugh "idiot" is the most used word here. Wonder why?

NOTE: The is no middle answer. When a CC expires the Rebills stop.

rowan 12-16-2007 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadFidel (Post 13521093)
:1orglaugh "idiot" is the most used word here. Wonder why?

NOTE: The is no middle answer. When a CC expires the Rebills stop.

Care to explain ccbill rebilling my CC account when I'd been issued with a new expiry and CVV2?

DutchTeenCash 12-16-2007 03:19 AM

there is no one answer

most banks issue a new card same number different exp date and cvv

some banks issue a new card with a new number

obviously when the number changes the rebill expires

Los 12-16-2007 04:09 AM

from my experience if you have your own merchant you can try and run a cc without a cvv2 number and just add a couple years to the date and it will go thru.

Violetta 12-16-2007 05:34 AM

I guess it varies then

Emil 12-16-2007 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69pornlinks (Post 13520767)
it continues. it's not like you get a new cc number when the card expires.

Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

PornDiscounts-R 12-16-2007 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 13521388)
Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

errrr wtf ???

After Shock Media 12-16-2007 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 13521388)
Uhhh, I did get a new VISA Number...

4618 7842 6485 4751
02/11
715

Thats just to damn wierd man.

My newly issued visa
4412 7842 6485 4751
02/09
419

Kind of odd only our exp. date, ccv2, and first 4 digits are only different.
I wonder how normal this really is :Oh crap

69pornlinks 12-16-2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 13521122)
there is no one answer

most banks issue a new card same number different exp date and cvv

some banks issue a new card with a new number

obviously when the number changes the rebill expires

....78909

tolik 12-16-2007 03:46 PM

very interesting question as for me.

madfuck 12-16-2007 03:49 PM

idk thats a good question tho

tolik 12-16-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13521427)
Thats just to damn wierd man.

My newly issued visa
4412 7842 6485 4751
02/09
419

Kind of odd only our exp. date, ccv2, and first 4 digits are only different.
I wonder how normal this really is :Oh crap

first 4 digits it are bank code in visa system as i remember ;)

Scootermuze 12-16-2007 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBen (Post 13520075)
CVV isn't stored and makes no difference on rebills.

Rebills will continue as long as the processor submits the transaction.

The expiration date changes, which makes some of the information stored invalid..

If they process the card upon rebilling, it won't be approved...

Been there..

Unless they pay no attention to the exp. date... which would be dangerous..

BlackCrayon 12-16-2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13521031)
ccbill has successfully rebilled a card of mine with details that had expired. I was told if it fails with a particular error, they add 2 years to the date and try again.

I had the same thing happen with ccbill.

Eyes_Without_A_Face 12-16-2007 05:24 PM

technicaly the rebill doesn't stop but the transaction is declined due to wrong data.

PS: emil, thanx for the 42" plasma :thumbsup

CDSmith 12-16-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyes_Without_A_Face (Post 13523429)
PS: emil, thanx for the 42" plasma :thumbsup

Beat me to it. :thumbsup


:1orglaugh

tony286 12-16-2007 06:47 PM

This is a good question, I figured when its expired it stops.

raven1083 12-16-2007 06:59 PM

Banks issues new credit card with different expiration year.Obviously, the number changes the rebill does expired.

PaygeaGrl 12-16-2007 07:25 PM

In most cases, when a new card is issued with a new expiry date, an "issuer decline" code should come back from the bank.

The Sultan Of Smut 12-17-2007 01:47 AM

I've had a mastercard continue to rebill after expiration date was reached, don't know if visa will though.

mrthumbs 12-17-2007 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy (Post 13521071)
Some people are really idiots

yeah... thats going through my mind reading the responses... :1orglaugh

GreyWolf 12-17-2007 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvinguy (Post 13521071)
Some people are really idiots

Yea? :winkwink:

Gawd protect the real world from the level of GFY :pimp

J B 12-17-2007 03:07 AM

We started to use CCBill as a backup processor for StatsRemote in January 2004 and still have quite a few active rebills from that time, so I guess as long as your credit card number doesn't change, the rebills will go through.

GatorB 12-17-2007 03:17 AM

I'm 100% sure if I cancell my CC that no one can continue to re-bill me.

StarkReality 12-17-2007 03:46 AM

From my knowledge, the expired card is first declined by the biller, but usually a credit is issued. As soon as the guy updates his credit card information, the rebill cycle continues and you get the negative credit back, plus future rebills. If the member doesn't update his cc data, bad luck.

Walrus 12-17-2007 03:59 AM

It's funny this question should be asked. I was double checking Lightspeed Cash to see what my percentage cut was and I came across this information:

Code:

LONG-TERM LOYALTY BONUS!

We have implemented a new system at LightspeedCash that takes RevShare to
the next level!

The Problem:
Alot of members have rebilling issues. They want to rebill, but their card
is expired or over its limit. So their membership ends until they can
correct the problem. When they come back, they join again as a TYPEIN, and
the original affiliate is paid NOTHING!

The LightspeedCash Solution:
We've implemented a database-driven system that indentifies these returning
members and RECONNECTS them to the ORIGINAL affiliate. It's like you own
that member for LIFE!

The Catch:
We will activate this feature only for affiliates who have sent at least one
join within the last 6 months. If you want a long-term commitment from us,
we should be able to expect a long-term commitment from you too, right?

That's what I call a FAIR DEAL, another win/win from LightspeedCash!

It would be interesting to know if their system beats the rest.

hateman 12-17-2007 04:10 AM

fuck rebills, gimme phat PPS

:banana


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