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Brother Bilo 12-20-2007 09:21 AM

Lakota Tribe Annexed From the US
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

Any thoughts?:2 cents:

G-Rotica 12-20-2007 09:31 AM

Maybe they hope to boost their econmy by starting a war.

StuartD 12-20-2007 09:33 AM

http://www.herb-al-remedies.com/images/indian-large.jpg

Gerco 12-20-2007 09:34 AM

Interesting' move.

Iron Fist 12-20-2007 09:38 AM

Well at least they have plenty of cough medicine.

ThreeXes 12-20-2007 09:42 AM

I admire them and this bold move. How long can the native people stand to be fucked over by the US govt? This should get them and their plight the attention needed for correction!

Sosa 12-20-2007 09:46 AM

lol russel means. That guy has tried so much shit around here. We are about 30 min south of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation and see all sorts of crap. I have friends that teach at Pine Ridge High School, and hearing stories from up there about the kids, no wonder why nothing has gotten better when 80% of the parents could care less.

Jim_Gunn 12-20-2007 09:46 AM

You mis-used the word "annexed". Annexed means for example when a country takes over a province that belongs to another country or is independent and adds it to the larger country or empire. I think that you mean that the Lakota seceded from the US, ie they want to seperate themselves from the US.

Sosa 12-20-2007 09:51 AM

let em go on their own way. Watch how fast the schools goto shit, the hospitals die down. They are so highly government funded it isn't even funny. What about 80% of the others that stay at home waiting for the EBT card to get refunded so they can run to walmart and stock up on food. What will they do when they don't get that money from the gov?

Topher49er 12-20-2007 09:53 AM

does this mean that their agreements with the government on casino money are null and void?

ADL Colin 12-20-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 13541479)
What will they do when they don't get that money from the gov?

Sell tax-free tobacco and build a casino?

Sosa 12-20-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13541492)
Sell tax-free tobacco and build a casino?

Well they already have a casino on both reservations around here.

L-Pink 12-20-2007 10:01 AM

Think they will fall for the small pox infested blankets trick again?

DaddyHalbucks 12-20-2007 10:02 AM

Interesting. Is it legal for one party to withdraw "unilaterally?"

If it means an ends to federal funding, it might not be so bad. The whole idea of the taxpayers forever supporting Indians seems wrong.

Sosa 12-20-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13541539)
Interesting. Is it legal for one party to withdraw "unilaterally?"

If it means an ends to federal funding, it might not be so bad. The whole idea of the taxpayers forever supporting Indians seems wrong.

If you haven't happened to drive around a reservation like the Lakota are living on, you have no idea whats really going on. They have a ton of land, but life so poor because they sit their aiding off the government. They feel the government owes them everything. Now when I say that, I don't mean to talk about everyone in general there, but 80% of them are like that.

It is a big drug haven, with the kids starting young bring drug runners and selling it at school etc. The natives really don't seem to mind though, and the "White" teachers have to stay away from it all or else they could lose their job etc.

Bottom line is they are living poor and expecting the government to pay everything and give them more money every year rather then going out and trying to make their lives better. I know some very very nice Natives who are doing farely well, and it is awesome to see. But then they have the 80% that everyone like myself tends to talk about more often.

It would be nice to see them not live in poverty, I don't want to see anyone living like that. But it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon, the way things are going. Atleast on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

Brother Bilo 12-20-2007 10:23 AM

I wonder what their policies will be on US citizens visiting their casinos. If they make it too much of a pain in the ass to visit their "country", wouldn't that effect the money they would even make off the casino?

I hope that this works for them, but I really don't expect this to go very far.

WarChild 12-20-2007 10:25 AM

Just send the millitary in to conquer them again. It's simple, Simon.

Wiseman 12-20-2007 10:30 AM

I want to be part of there tribe. Where do I sign up?

Sosa 12-20-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseman (Post 13541671)
I want to be part of there tribe. Where do I sign up?

Turn in your american citizen ship and they will welcome you lol :) Anyone ready to setup a Native American porno site live from the rez? Lets see how they would welcome that.

munki 12-20-2007 10:32 AM

Bold move...

Nikki_Licks 12-20-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 13541685)
Turn in your american citizen ship and they will welcome you lol :) Anyone ready to setup a Native American porno site live from the rez? Lets see how they would welcome that.

I was pondering that thought myself :winkwink:

Brother Bilo 12-20-2007 11:31 AM

Renounce my citizenship to live on a dirt poor res with a bunch of drugged out, depressed and unemployed people? I think I'll stick with the US on this one.

L-Pink 12-20-2007 11:41 AM

Most "wealth" that the average person acquires is a result of real estate transactions, property values. Indians can't buy/sell their land. Large chunks of cash are there fore nonexistent. Nothing really appreciates in value either ...

Banks don't loan on property that can't be sold or doesn't appreciate. They really are in a fucked up situation unless oil/gas is found or a large population base is close for possible casino revenue.

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Brother Bilo 12-20-2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13542055)
Most "wealth" that the average person acquires is a result of real estate transactions, property values. Indians can't buy/sell their land. Large chunks of cash are there fore nonexistent. Nothing really appreciates in value either ...

Banks don't loan on property that can't be sold or doesn't appreciate. They really are in a fucked up situation unless oil/gas is found or a large population base is close for possible casino revenue.

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I think they are just all around fucked on this one. How much business do you think their casinos will lose, considering they are smack in the middle of hardcore red states? Midwest don't take kindly to succeeders.

2012 12-20-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

The new country would issue its own passports and driving licences, and living there would be tax-free - provided residents renounce their U.S. citizenship
see you on the res

L-Pink 12-20-2007 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13542072)
I think they are just all around fucked on this one. How much business do you think their casinos will lose, considering they are smack in the middle of hardcore red states? Midwest don't take kindly to succeeders.

It will be a wild-west cesspool.

sortie 12-20-2007 11:52 AM

Rich tycoons with a little bit of "tax abatement" might just move in and make that one small rich ass country.

"Dear Mr. Trump, would you like to build 10 schools and then never pay taxes again for the rest of your life? Then move here."

Hmmmmmmmmmm......

baddog 12-20-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13541366)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

Any thoughts?:2 cents:

I think you need to look up "annexed."

Grapesoda 12-20-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13541366)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html

I can appreciate their position feeling slighted by the government, but I don't think this is the best move for their people. The misery on the reservations is so far gone, how are they going to survive without the government assitance they used to get? Unemployement is out of control, how is that going to change now that they've cut their ties from the rest of the US?

Any thoughts?:2 cents:

didn't work out to well for the southern states when they tried it :( so what's next? Russian missile bases in Nebraska? Hamas training camps in Wyoming? it's not going to be a smooth transition. does the US pull their gambling? -bmb

Brother Bilo 12-20-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13542183)
I think you need to look up "annexed."

Already brought up, thanks. I am well aware of what annexed means now.

pornguy 12-20-2007 12:53 PM

they will build casinos and make beer, wine and liquor without worrying about the US getting their hands on it. They will be just fine, providing they have a few people that know what they are doing.


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