The Hun
 

So why would they have the same design for 12yrs? :)

be course it works :-) why fix that ain't broken..

never touch a running system!

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?c=1&f...=3&h=300&w=610

In the adult industry a lot of people are too affraid to touch something that makes them good money. They don't realize that they could make a lot more money by some simple changes. Imagine if the hun had added a review secion, or an amateur section with user submitted content, or even a 'tube' section, etc. over the past years, anything that made it more web2.0. If he had done that it would probably still be the biggest porn site around + he would make a lot of extra money.

pretty sure that will not be fixed by design..

That decline is in relative numbers (other big sites popping up + more people on the Internet), I'm sure he still gets a lot of loyal visitors. Adding tube/review section wouldn't fix it, what would have made sense for him was to innovate and buy/build web 2.0 type sites. But it doesn't really matter, he makes a lot of money still. Plus we don't know which other projects he is involved in.

Well when his bookmarkers die then that will be the end of The Hun - if he took a look at his demographics, other than us, i'm pretty sure no one else under the age of 25 knows what "The Hun" is....

But for anoyone of us will be The Hun legend :)

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Because it works...

Gallery shit is web minus 1.

Hi.
Are you new on the internet?

The hun has to be one of the most well known sites. I highly doubt that it will die anytime soon.

No, I work with people in the 15-25 age group on a daily basis, and we've talked about porn and not once have I ever heard of anyone talking about "The Hun" - most use torrents or tubes.

You realise they might not be representable for "the world" though right?
Have a look at what quantcast says :
http://www.quantcast.com/thehun.net

No one knows what the hun is doing; for all we know he could own half the TGPs still out there.

You mean, half the TGPs that actually is worth something. :winkwink:

I am pretty sure they will have other projects too, and can not see the hun dying out anytime soon. Everyone knows the hun.

he doesn't

but common sense and experiences say, people under 25 are used to use torrents or tubes. they dont want to read links describing what galleries are about....
Simply, text TGPs are thing of the past, despite they can be yet profitable for a long time. As advertiser on some of the biggest sites I follow their sextracker numbers and I found out that some of them went down as much as 50% in the past two years, however thehun only 25%. But the time is not on their side....

Shrug, The Hun makes his money off webmasters, not surfers, and there'll be an infinite supply of webmasters and programs willing to pay his rates for years to come.

I heart thehun :)

Then you have no common sense. Owning common sense would tell you that people want a 'source' for porn that they can trust. Somewhere where they know that the porn will be exactly what they say it is and had been properly vetted. This happens to a small extent on better tube style sites but to say it happens on torrent sites shows you have little or no clue. Oddly enough on the hun you tend to get exactly what the title says. How on earth can you say people don't want a description of the stuff they're about to view?

As for the useless Alexa graph - sit and try to figure out both how Alexa works and why the growth and changes to the Internet would by default show a % decrease. It's really not rocket science

Damn - I can't find that quote used a year or four back. The one that was repeated several 1000 times. It'd be perfect for this thread especially as the 'noobs' simply wouldn't get it :)

The hun makes his money from.....(etc)

:2 cents:

The hun is a God. You'll always get sign ups and make money when he accepts you, even if it's one measly trial sign up. If not you better get the fuck out of this business

When you're as big as the hun you don't need to worry about design.

I don't suggest trying to imitate him though; he's in a league of his own.

The hun rocks our TGP's :)

Yeah i agree with you

hey pornopat!! my best m8 is going to live next to you!
he said your party was great :-)

Yeah I think Nylos liked it with all the gorgeous Latin girls. :winkwink:
Would be cool if you came to visit him once he lives here. A small gathering!
Monday Wielco is arriving for a holiday.

Well, i will probably be with Nils this summer.. not sure when he moves to his new house but i think he said June or Juli....
Btw, your house is STUNNING! Nils showed me last week when he was scouting for a house to buy..

I am trying to get my wife to move to Curacao, but she said she values her family in Holland too much to move to a different country..:disgust

Anyway, since my best m8 is moving there i'm sure i will be there at least once a year..

Ow, and FREE ST COPIES FOR ALL WHEN I'M THERE!!

there´s no money in TGP´s

How the fuck do you act like you know anything about what he's involved in or not? Stop acting like you're important. You're not.

I dont think its the design but rather the content of the site that is bringing it down. times have changed and surfers can get access to thousands of free videos. compared to a few years ago now a majority of porn go'ers have broadband internet access where it is easier for them to stream or download video versus loading images on a dial up line.

I think the hun will have a place to stay but its traffic will do down with the advent of tube and torrent sites. older surfers will continue to go to thehun each day while new comers look for ways of getting faster access to free video content

this graph tells it all
from top1000 to top5000 in less than a year


http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...1y&size=Medium

perhaps Patrick knows all of that (don't forget, he's in biz so many yrs) but it seems he doesn't getting money only from TGP... or there are some other reasons ppl don't know...

btw, even, I'm not talking about content and his ranking.. it's about design.. GFY works too, but they doing redesign all the time...

if you would actualy read my post, I didnt speak about Alexa numbers, I spoke about SEXTRACKER numbers.
So how do you explain that some of biggest old sites lost 50% of traffic and thehun 30% in two years?

The only "innovation" / change that the hun introduced was that thumbnail posting site.
I don't think it was a success. So I guess, that person is just not very good at such things. Or he doesn't like to reinvest his money.

Because that's what he should have done. I agree with the above: if the hun had kept up with the times, he would be dominating the biz.

none - the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Yeah, but it's exactly what you say: 'growth and changes on the Internet' makes it show a decrease. If he had kept up with times the graph could still show an increase instead of a decrease. The graph proofs that The Hun sits still, while the rest of the internet is evolving.

I know the Hun makes his money from Webmasters and not surfers, but I don't agree with the people that say 'why change something that works'. For the past years he probably got a steady monthly income, and it would still continue for the next years, but if he would have made some changes and kept up with times over the past years he could make much more money and he could have still been the biggest porn site around. But probably that was never his goal, and he doesn't care. I am sure he still makes more money than most of us. All I am trying to say that it could have been more.

who cares about design? many people here buy spot on the hun

i think this is a valid point to some extent. i thought the same thing to myself recently, why are there so many text based tgp / mpg out there and how can they compete for traffic with thumb based ones. then again if they work and are making money why mess it up. if its making money then the demographic is still there.

it would make more sense to leave that as is and try new projects separately if one wanted to try something more 'modern'.

also how are webmasters gonna make money with pirated content? you can correlate this to other industries as well, take movies, you can get most movies as dvd rips before dvd's are even released sometimes before the movie is even in theaters or just came out. should they close down movie theaters because of this?

It amazes me that so many people here think they are in a position to criticize The Hun's marketing approach. If he were in trouble, he'd make a change. Since he hasn't, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that reinventing the wheel isn't in his list of tasks to take on.

there´s no money to be made on that tgp, stay away

P.S. Keeping the same design guarantees familiarity for his bookmarkers. That is often more important than implementing a web 2.0 look/feel. :)

good one :thumbsup

That's "The HUN's" appeal and lucky charm :)

Whats so good in The Hun by the way? I know a ton of others sites with better design, better content and better traffic .. why is everyone so obsessed with The Hun? Just because they are old school? Come on guys.

PS. may be I don't see anything in it because I am not a gallery submitter or I am not in business since 2000?

There's not so many other sites around generating hundreds of sales every day...

u guys wanna see something sadder ?
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ax&size=Medium

PK used to be the biggest pornsite in the world at one time.
now it barely gets 50k users a day.