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GatorB 02-01-2008 12:43 PM

blue-eyed individuals have a single, common ancestor
 
A team of scientists has tracked down a genetic mutation that leads to blue eyes. The mutation occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago, so before then, there were no blue eyes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22934464/

CheneyRumsfeld 02-01-2008 12:45 PM

that means you are a sister fucker

StuartD 02-01-2008 12:47 PM

mutation?

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6344/kate2eo.jpg

Vendzilla 02-01-2008 12:49 PM

sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

DigitalDruid 02-01-2008 12:51 PM

MAN.... Hitler was on to that a long time ago........ Old news lol

StuartD 02-01-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Xrated J 02-01-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13728213)

she is so hot

Brother Bilo 02-01-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

I don't know about that. All the kids I've been around didn't have blue eyes to start unless that's what they actually have.

Although, this explains why most every kid has blond hair. Shit, I had platinum blond hair until I was about 5 or 6, then it started to get darker.

Now it's just gone. :(

G-Rotica 02-01-2008 12:54 PM

bunch of inbreeders

WarChild 02-01-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

Read both articles again. They don't contradict each other. :2 cents:

Fat Panda 02-01-2008 01:01 PM

hmmmmm i have blue eyes

bDok 02-01-2008 01:01 PM

they did some awesome tracking there...

between 6000-10000 years... MONSTER margin there. 4000 years. LOL.

I've got blue orbs for eyes. i look into womens eyes and they melt. hehe

mikeyddddd 02-01-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13728213)

That's called partial heterochromia iridis.

My brother's got a brown spot smaller than that on the iris of his left eye.

BV 02-01-2008 01:18 PM

"This gene does something good for people. It makes them have more kids."

roly 02-01-2008 01:35 PM

if a couple who both have blue eyes have a child, the child is guaranteed to have blue eyes as well. apparantly this is the only eye color combination this happens with.

GatorB 02-01-2008 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

Um DNA doesn't lie idiot. Doesnt mater what you're born with.

Vendzilla 02-01-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13728468)
Um DNA doesn't lie idiot. Doesnt mater what you're born with.


Maybe you should read the whole post before proclaiming your magnificence, we were talking about all blue eyed people coming from a common ancestor and in reading the article, they came to the conclusion that it's because of a special gene, I pointed out most all babies are born with blue eyes, they change later. My nephew was born with blue eyes, he now at 1 year old has brown eyes like his mother.

I'm a genetic match to my parents except for one thing, mother was born with blonde hair, dad with brown, I have black hair, there goes your DNA idea, if you read up on DNA, there are traits that pop up and skip generations.

Oh and matter is spelt with two t's

O MARINA 02-01-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13728191)
A team of scientists has tracked down a genetic mutation that leads to blue eyes. The mutation occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago, so before then, there were no blue eyes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22934464/



Interesting

WarChild 02-01-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728575)
Maybe you should read the whole post before proclaiming your magnificence, we were talking about all blue eyed people coming from a common ancestor and in reading the article, they came to the conclusion that it's because of a special gene, I pointed out most all babies are born with blue eyes, they change later. My nephew was born with blue eyes, he now at 1 year old has brown eyes like his mother.

You missed a large part of the puzzle.

The REASON why babies have blue eyes is, and I'll quote from your own link:
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You inherit your eye color from your parents, but no matter what the color is now, it mayp have been blue when you were born. Why? Melanin, the brown pigment molecule that colors your skin, hair, and eyes, hadn't been fully deposited in the irises of your eyes or darkened by exposure to ultraviolet light.
Not ALL babies are born with blue eyes, but some of the ones born with blue eyes change to darker colors as Melanin is released.

Now here's where the link to the first article comes in, pay close attention:
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The mutation affected the so-called OCA2 gene, which is involved in the production of melanin, the pigment that gives color to our hair, eyes and skin.

"A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a 'switch,' which literally 'turned off' the ability to produce brown eyes," Eiberg said.
Now you understand why babies being born with blue eyes that later darken in no way disproves what these scientists have found.

MediaGuy 02-01-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13728213)

Not talking about her eye, look at her lip... what's that brown kaka-like substance sitting there... ?

Vendzilla 02-01-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13728652)
Now you understand why babies being born with blue eyes that later darken in no way disproves what these scientists have found.

What I posted was in doubt of their findings, I do believe blue eyes evolved from brown, brown eyes are more resilient to bright light, but in some parts of the world, that is not needed, so man in those areas evolved, lighter skin and lighter colored eyes and even hair. It's just evolution. People with lighter colored eyes can see better in the dark, something to do with reflective surfaces in the retina I think. But that most start with blue eyes cast doubt to me that it started with one person or one common ancestor, it more than likely happened over time to a large group of people of tribes evolving to meet the demand of their surroundings.

Thead 02-01-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13728213)

I have exactly the same thing in one of my eyes.

Fletch XXX 02-01-2008 03:39 PM

blonde hair is a genetic mutation as well, which is why true blondes are not as common as fake blondes.

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Based on recent genetic information carried out at three Japanese universities, the date of the genetic mutation that resulted in blond hair in Europe has been isolated to about 11,000 years ago during the last Ice Age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond

cherrylula 02-01-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by roly (Post 13728418)
if a couple who both have blue eyes have a child, the child is guaranteed to have blue eyes as well. apparantly this is the only eye color combination this happens with.

Not true. My dad has brown eyes, my mom had light green eyes, my eyes are light green and sister's are blue blue. My father's parents both have brown eyes as well. Its just a combination of genetics.

D 02-01-2008 03:44 PM

not-so-breaking-news:

Every facet of our species was caused by a mutation.

That's how evolution happens.

It's also very possible (probable, even) that blue eyes existed many times in the history of our development from single-cell organisms to the present - but, perhaps unlike this more recent case, those genetic lines could have died out.

cherrylula 02-01-2008 03:46 PM

too late to edit, but I now see I read that quote wrong in regards to "as a child," my bad.

Dennis Rodman 02-01-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13728468)
Um DNA doesn't lie idiot. Doesnt mater what you're born with.

Don't bite one if the hands that helps feed you. Idiot. :2 cents:

V_RocKs 02-01-2008 04:07 PM

Inbread fucks!

GatorB 02-01-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok (Post 13728302)
they did some awesome tracking there...

between 6000-10000 years... MONSTER margin there. 4000 years. LOL.

Are you a fucking retard? That's a pretty small span of time if you think about how long humans have been around. god I swear the idiot here that know NOTHING about even 6th grade science.

GatorB 02-01-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728575)
Maybe you should read the whole post before proclaiming your magnificence, we were talking about all blue eyed people coming from a common ancestor and in reading the article, they came to the conclusion that it's because of a special gene, I pointed out most all babies are born with blue eyes, they change later. My nephew was born with blue eyes, he now at 1 year old has brown eyes like his mother.

I'm a genetic match to my parents except for one thing, mother was born with blonde hair, dad with brown, I have black hair, there goes your DNA idea, if you read up on DNA, there are traits that pop up and skip generations.

Oh and matter is spelt with two t's

Maybe you should drink a big old cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.

JP-pornshooter 02-01-2008 05:04 PM

pretty interesting stuff..
there are theories that the white skinned human is also a mutation of the "original" human darker skin. some call it mutation some call it Darwin's theory of evolution.

Phil 02-01-2008 05:07 PM

another useless reasearch with millions of $ waster. I know asian guy with blue eyes and mixed (white/black) girl with blue eyes.. BS..

Vendzilla 02-01-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13729205)
Maybe you should drink a big old cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Wow, at least you spelt it right, must have used spell check, right?

Vick! 02-01-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

Do you actually read that article? It says:

Quote:

but no matter what the color is now, it may have been blue when you were born
so .. its not like every one have blue eyes when born, but some may have it. Which is changed with time in most cases.

Quote:

The color is often stable by about 6 months of age. However, several factors can affect eye color, including use of certain medications and environmental factors. Some people experience changes in eye color over the course of their lives

Vendzilla 02-01-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13729417)
Do you actually read that article? It says:
so .. its not like every one have blue eyes when born, but some may have it. Which is changed with time in most cases.

I brought it up as a possible loop hole.

Just have to wonder how many people reading this thread knew that most kids are born with blue eyes, or how many knew that babies don't have knee caps made of bone?

Drake 02-01-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by roly (Post 13728418)
if a couple who both have blue eyes have a child, the child is guaranteed to have blue eyes as well. apparantly this is the only eye color combination this happens with.

Not true but it's indeed rare:

"Even the genetics of eye color inheritance isn't as cut-and-dried as was once thought, as blue-eyed parents have been known (rarely) to have a brown-eyed child" - http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

Evil E 02-01-2008 11:55 PM

Blue will soon rule the world.

uno 02-02-2008 01:49 AM

i know a model with one blue eye and one brown eye.

Fap 02-02-2008 03:00 AM

Im a mutenttt! and not the cool xmen kind :(

mikeyddddd 02-02-2008 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 13730531)
i know a model with one blue eye and one brown eye.

That's called heterochromia iridium.

roly 02-02-2008 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 13729460)
Not true but it's indeed rare:

"Even the genetics of eye color inheritance isn't as cut-and-dried as was once thought, as blue-eyed parents have been known (rarely) to have a brown-eyed child" - http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

that's down to the postman or gardener ;)

Enemator 02-02-2008 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13728222)
sounds like BS to me, aren't all kids born with blue eyes?

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...f/eyecolor.htm

Quote from the article:

"but no matter what the color is now, it may have been blue when you were born."

Seriously, I see this so many times. An article states something as being true while the very first sentence reads "MAY".

Bad reporting.

Enemator 02-02-2008 06:10 AM

Seems I'm a bit late haha

Vendzilla 02-02-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13730901)
Quote from the article:

"but no matter what the color is now, it may have been blue when you were born."

Seriously, I see this so many times. An article states something as being true while the very first sentence reads "MAY".

Bad reporting.

Walk into any nursery, look at the kids or talk to the nurse, they will tell you most all kids start off with blue eyes and they change later

http://ask.yahoo.com/20060110.html
http://missbakersbiologyclass.com/bl...ith-blue-eyes/

The fact that most children are born with blue eyes leave doubt that man didn't always have blue eyes

Enemator 02-02-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13731196)
Walk into any nursery, look at the kids or talk to the nurse, they will tell you most all kids start off with blue eyes and they change later

http://ask.yahoo.com/20060110.html
http://missbakersbiologyclass.com/bl...ith-blue-eyes/

The fact that most children are born with blue eyes leave doubt that man didn't always have blue eyes

Keyword here, again, is "most". A lot can happen in 6k-8k years. Especially evolutionairy wise when it comes to people. there weren't many of us back then.

Vendzilla 02-02-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13731264)
Keyword here, again, is "most". A lot can happen in 6k-8k years. Especially evolutionairy wise when it comes to people. there weren't many of us back then.

I agree, what I don't agree is that it all started with one person, more like a whole tribe or several tribes in one or many area's due to evolution

MandyBlake 02-02-2008 10:01 AM

very interesting article.

Enemator 02-02-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 13731372)
I agree, what I don't agree is that it all started with one person, more like a whole tribe or several tribes in one or many area's due to evolution

I agree that is possible :)

I wonder how bible freaks look at this news. When you get down to it, we're one big incestuous bunch of fuck-ups according to the bible.

Vendzilla 02-02-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Enemator (Post 13731397)
I agree that is possible :)

I wonder how bible freaks look at this news. When you get down to it, we're one big incestuous bunch of fuck-ups according to the bible.

The bible freaks don't have a clue, the bible itself is a practice in condradictions, here's two examples that are close to this

Cursed is he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.
- Deuteronomy 27:22

And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
- Genesis 20:11,12

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If brethren dwell together, and one of them die and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger; her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife.
- Deuteronomy 25:5

If a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing... they shall be childless.
- Leviticus 20:21

LiveDose 02-02-2008 01:10 PM

We are all a mutation in one way or another...


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