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The_Truth_Will_Hurts 02-23-2008 10:07 PM

The Truth about Obama
 
In 1991 a young Muslim Harvard Law College graduate named Barack Hussein Obama (who has denied his Islamic past and Muslim roots for as long as he has been a public figure) became a civil rights community activist working out of the Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama worked as a community organizer for Trinity in poor black neighborhoods. Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn't mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama. Because of what Wright called Obama's multiple-faith background and his Harvard education, he was a natural community-builder.

When Obama broke onto the national political scene in 2004, not only did he attempt to erase all traces his Islamic childhood, but he also tried to erase the nature of his relationship with Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, the pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ. (When your country is at war with Islamic extremists being a Muslim is not the shortest route to the White House.) Obama has told the media his reason for shielding his pastor was because "...he respected Mr. Wright's work for the poor and his fight against injustice." In reality Dr. Wright's work was to denounce the United States as a white racist nation. That's not good press for an African American candidate who needs to win a majority of the white vote to win the office of President.

It would have been not only natural, but expected, for Barack Obama?when he decided to run for the presidency?to make the announcement from the pulpit of the 8,500 member Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama would later state he did not in order to shield his pastor from the spotlight of the media. Dr. Wright has never shunned positive publicity. It was obvious to the media?in particular the New York Times which noted in an April 20, 2007 article that Obama was very deliberately distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright. Instead, Obama announced his candidacy on the steps of the old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois?where Abraham Lincoln announced his candidacy?on Feb. 10, 2007. Obama sees himself as an archtype of Lincoln who will "free his people from the tyranny of the oppressor." What people are those? The inner city people of color whom Dr. Wright believes are part of the Black Value System? Or does he see himself as the man who will free the Muslim world from the Great Satan since his first action, he says, as President of the United States will be to pull all Americans troops out of the Middle East? The voters need to figure out exactly who Barack Obama's constituents really are because when I add 2 + 2 + Obama, it doesn't come out four.

When Obama's early history and his Islamic upbringing was first reported, Obama's website posted a statement dated Nov. 12, 2007 with the headline: "Barack Obama is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim." The statement reiterated that Obama was not a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.

On Dec. 22 at the Smoky Row Coffee Shop in Oskaloosa, Iowa, the locals asked Obama about his Muslim roots. He said: "My father was from Kenya. A lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is, he wasn't very religious." That was a lie. Obama's father and stepfather were devout Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather, who had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical Wahabbi Muslim. "My mother was a Christian from Kansas." That was also a lie. Obama's mother, his material grandmother and grandfather were all atheists. "They married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam...For a while I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that's a Muslim country. And I went to school?but I didn't practice Islam." Another lie. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to Indonesia?before she married her second Muslim husband?she enrolled her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim because he was a Muslim. The enrollment form required each student to choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when enrolling: Buddhist, Catholic, Hindu, Muslim, or Protestant. Had he been a lifelong Christian, or even a recent convert, he?or his mother?would have circled Protestant.

When confronted with this information, Obama said he couldn't understand how such an error could have happened. Los Angeles Times reporter Paul Watson, who dug into Obama's allegation of error, said "...his former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade school teacher as childhood friends, says Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. The registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion classes. The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." (Something else Obama claims he never did.) "...Obama's younger sister, Maya Soetoro, said in a statement released by the campaign that the family attended the mosque only 'for big communal events' not every Friday." Obama, who belongs to a church that teaches that the Muslims of the world were wronged by both Israel and the United States, cannot afford to be labeled as a "Muslim" by voters who expect the United States to win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan where their sons and daughters are being killed by Muslims.

Jim Wallis, a Christian antipoverty community activist and a friend of Obama's said Obama comes from a very secular, skeptical family. His faith is a personal and adult choice. His material grandparents?who were professing atheists?had previously been Baptist and Methodist. His mother's tutelage leaned towards Islam only because her new husband was an ardent Muslim?and he demanded it.

She was not, however, the docile Muslim housewife most Muslim men expected. Obama's half-sister Maya admitted that her "...whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." Because religion of any type rubbed his mother the wrong way, when he was 10, Obama's mother sent her son back to Hawaii to live with her parents.

In 2005 Obama met his paternal step-grandmoher (whom he calls his grandmother). Sarah Hussein Obama, 85, who lives in Kenya. She told the New York Times that she is "...a strong believer of Islamic faith," adding that she still rises at 5 a.m. to pray for an hour before tending to her crops and the three orphans she has taken in.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 02-23-2008 10:08 PM

A camera which caught Obama on the political stage during a fund raiser for Sen. Tom Harkin in Iowa with presidential candidates Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton shows his lack of respect to this nation during the singing of the National Anthem. Angered that the photo was released (and because the reporter erroneously stated the photo was taken during the Pledge of Allegiance rather than the singing of the national anthem, Obama said: "This is the classic dirty trick. This was not the Pledge of Allegiance. The woman was singing the Star Spangled Banner."

As a sign of respect to their nation, many Americans place their hand over their heart when the National Anthem is played as well as when they recite the Pledge. In his case, Obama said "...I was taught by my grandfather that you put your hands over your heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. The Star Spangled Banner, you sing." Only, when you look at the photo, its very clear that neither Obama nor the others on stage are singing. It was, however, the singing of the national anthem.



All the time he was around either his father or stepfather, Obama was either in Hawaii or Indonesia. Thus, neither his paternal grandfather nor the father of his stepfather would have tutored him on placing his hand over his heart during the US Pledge of Allegiance, nor the singing the American Star Spangled Banner. Rest assured that Indonesian homes don't recite the Pledge or sing the US national anthem. And while Hawaii had been a State for three years before Obama was born, logic suggests its not likely an atheist mother and an Islamic father would teach him to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Star Spangled Banner.

In his teen years Obama moved back to Honolulu where he lived with his maternal grandparents. In his rebuttal, you will recall, Obama claimed his grandfather had taught him to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge, and to sing the national anthem. History has a problem with that on both sides of the family. Like his mother who was an atheist, so were her parents. Obama's grandmother, he said in interviews, "...was too rational and too stubborn to accept anything she couldn't see, feel, touch or count." His maternal grandfather was also an atheist who "...had an innate rebelliousness and a complete inability to discipline his appetites...who...experimented with marijuana and cocaine." An atheist is not going to teach his grandson to respect the Pledge of Allegiance which pays homage to God.

In August, 2006 US Senator Barack Obama [D-IL] made a special trip to visit a special man in Kenya. The man's name was Raila Amolo Odinga. He is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF] in Kenya. The political party he heads is called the Orange Democratic Movement [ODM]?although there is definitely nothing democratic about his political party of NAMLEF. The ODM is dedicated to overthrowing the legitimate democratic government of Kenya. Odinga is not really concerned how he achieves his objective. It matters little to him if he assumes power through a free election?or by revolution. But, by hook or crook, he is determined to become the president of Kenya. If he succeeds, he will be president for life and Kenya will become another Afghanistan.

When the US Senator visited Kenya to meet with Odinga in Nairobi, the Kenyan government officially denounced the visit. And, most specifically, they denounced Obama. According to a Kenyan government spokesman, Obama's bias for his friend was so blatant that the government found it necessary to complain that Obama appeared to be Odinga's stooge. Not only did Obama campaign for his Islamic friend, he convinced former Clinton adviser Dick Morris to become Odinga's campaign adviser.

Odinga bothers the US State Department for a couple of reasons. First, after losing the democratic election on December 27, Raila Odinga cut a deal for support from Vladimir Putin and the former Soviet Union. Odinga knows he has to overthrow the government to gain power. When he lost the election, he protested that the vote was rigged to keep him from claiming an election he won. He incited his tribal followers to go on a murderous rampage in towns that were primarily Christian. Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people were murdered. What shocked the west is that the Kenyan media?and the political power brokers within the country?out of fear of Odinga, appear to be suggesting that perhaps the election should be held over to stop the violence and the potential for long term Muslim terrorism.

In a wave of violence aimed at protesting what they call the illegal election of newly-elected Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki, a group of Christian women and children?some entire families?barricaded themselves in a church. Muslims, inflamed by Odinga's men, torched the church and burned to death everyone inside. This is the man Obama campaigned for in Kenya, and sang the praises of. This is also the man who claims that Barack Obama is a close, personal friend. Christianity would be outlawed.

There would be a complete ban on the public consumption of alcoholic beverages and a ban on western-style dress for women since this type of garb is considered immoral and an offense to the Muslim faith. Raila Obinga, it seems, would impose the same type of Shariah law that was imposed on Afghanistan by the Taliban. Odinga would degree that no Muslim living in Kenya?whether a citizen, visitor or relative of a citizen of Kenya (such as Obama, whose grandmother is a citizen of Kenya)?shall be subject to any legal process involving the laws of a foreign country and in particular any Muslim arrested for, or suspected of, terrorism, or of any other international crimes shall only be tried inside the borders of Kenya and shall be granted a competent lawyer of his or her choice at the expense of the government.



The American people need to be asking Barack Obama a whole different list of questions when they attend his political rallies on his quest to become the leader of the free world. They need to ask the man who he really is because, up to this point on the campaign trail, he has lied to them. The American people need to find an honest candidate. Barack Obama is not that man.

Eva PSC 02-23-2008 10:08 PM

quite an interesting topic for the first post

GrouchyAdmin 02-23-2008 10:10 PM

At least it's not one of those fucking Ron Paul flooders, and some of this may be factually correct.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 02-23-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva PSC (Post 13823595)
quite an interesting topic for the first post

People must know the truth, then if they still feel that Obama deserves their vote, at least it will be an educated vote

Mutt 02-23-2008 10:11 PM

haha he's your next president - deal with it

Eva PSC 02-23-2008 10:12 PM

too boring of a read

baddog 02-23-2008 10:13 PM

nice cut and paste

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-23-2008 10:26 PM

Bunch of long boring false bullshit

Obama 08

yes we can

stev0 02-23-2008 11:30 PM

It's sad that every candidate has to pull the "Christianity" card, too many idiots are obsessed with religion.

TheSenator 02-23-2008 11:33 PM

We are a Christian Nation!!!






































LOL

stev0 02-23-2008 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Truth_Will_Hurts (Post 13823594)
As a sign of respect to their nation, many Americans place their hand over their heart when the National Anthem is played as well as when they recite the Pledge. In his case, Obama said "...I was taught by my grandfather that you put your hands over your heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. The Star Spangled Banner, you sing." Only, when you look at the photo, its very clear that neither Obama nor the others on stage are singing. It was, however, the singing of the national anthem.

hahaha, who the fuck cares... the US needs an intelligent leader, not another faith based "patriot". Voters are voting based on religion, what actors and musicians (not often scholars), and how much kissing the flags ass they do.

Pretty sad state of affairs, yet people are worrying about crap like this?

Snake Doctor 02-23-2008 11:43 PM

Didn't have time to read all that bullshit....skimmed some of it....all of this shit is false innuendo that has been discredited already.

Go to factcheck.org or check out the new "fact check" sections that most of the major newspapers have put on their websites lately, and look for yourself.

The sad part is that the pussy who posted this won't even use his real handle....he had to create a new nickname just to sling this stupid shit.

PUSSY!!

If you have something to say, at least have the cajones to stand behind it.

tony286 02-23-2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 13823860)
We are a Christian Nation!!!






































LOL

The first thing Jesus would say if he came back and heard that would be didnt you read my teachings?

qxm 02-23-2008 11:50 PM

......long cut and pastes make my balls itch........

SleazyDream 02-23-2008 11:51 PM

wow - some people really hate the idea that a black man may get more power then them

Dirty F 02-23-2008 11:56 PM

Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn't mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama.

Ah, a black racist, thats something new.

The Judge 02-24-2008 12:06 AM

I don't buy any of it

spacedog 02-25-2008 02:18 AM

How fucking ironic for someone with Hussein in their name to be running for president..

Doctor Dre 02-25-2008 02:22 AM

I dont buy it.

spacedog 02-25-2008 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13828233)
I dont buy it.

It's true though,, research it.. His father was very muslim..

who 02-25-2008 03:13 AM

Cliff notes: Obama is a liar and a muslim.

potter 02-25-2008 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 13828318)
Cliff notes: Obama is a liar and a muslim.

Well most of the story is BS. But I still don't get what him being muslim would have to do with anything? I know plenty of muslims, even one of my friends over in Iraq right now converted last year. I don't understand how being muslim is a bad thing, as this article portrays it??

sweetcuties 02-25-2008 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13823899)
wow - some people really hate the idea that a black man may get more power then them

Yep, that's it... he's getting alot of a shit and it comes down to racism.

Hey Truth... PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND BLOW YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF DUMB SHIT :2 cents:

who 02-25-2008 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 13828533)
Well most of the story is BS. But I still don't get what him being muslim would have to do with anything? I know plenty of muslims, even one of my friends over in Iraq right now converted last year. I don't understand how being muslim is a bad thing, as this article portrays it??

You don't see how being muslim could affect his chances of becoming president of the united states? Really?

Splum 02-25-2008 05:34 AM

The empire is crumbling, he will just help speed it along.

DirtyProfits 02-25-2008 05:45 AM

There are about 1.2 billion muslims in the world, they represent about 22% of the world's population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.

Islam is growing about 2.9% per year. This is faster than the total world population which increases about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a progressively larger percentage of the world's population.

Now tell me how many of those 1.2 billion muslims are terrorists or support terrorism? If just every 100th muslim was a terrorist, the United States were already nuked back to the stone age.
It is really sad and pathetic how people try to abuse the fact that his father was a muslim to harm Obama. As far as I know Obama converted to Christianity but religion shouldn't play a role in our multicultural society nowadays anymore.

What would be worse, another religious christian republican supported by lobbyists hungry for war to make even more money or a smart young man who is against war but happpens to be a former muslim?

escorpio 02-25-2008 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 13828542)
Yep, that's it... he's getting alot of a shit and it comes down to racism.

Hey Truth... PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND BLOW YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF DUMB SHIT :2 cents:

He's getting a lot of shit because he's a presidential candidiate, not because of racism.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-25-2008 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13823899)
wow - some people really hate the idea that a black man may get more power then them

:2 cents:

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-25-2008 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13823881)
Didn't have time to read all that bullshit....skimmed some of it....all of this shit is false innuendo that has been discredited already.

Go to factcheck.org or check out the new "fact check" sections that most of the major newspapers have put on their websites lately, and look for yourself.

The sad part is that the pussy who posted this won't even use his real handle....he had to create a new nickname just to sling this stupid shit.

PUSSY!!

If you have something to say, at least have the cajones to stand behind it.


:2 cents::2 cents:

Sarah_Jayne 02-25-2008 06:40 AM

It is almost worth him winning just to see how pissed off people like this will be if it happens.

notoldschool 02-25-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 13823604)
At least it's not one of those fucking Ron Paul flooders, and some of this may be factually correct.

Yeah, everyone beleives your dumb ass and we are all stupid enough to believe that Obama is more dangerous than a female communist and a senile mentally retarded old abused butter teeth Mccain. Yeah Ron Paul is just crazy... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Burnt Bacon 02-25-2008 09:04 AM

I just learned something important on the internet.

TurboAngel 02-25-2008 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13823915)
Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn't mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama.

Ah, a black racist, thats something new.

No it's not but for some reason it has been ignored for years.


:disgust

Dollarmansteve 02-25-2008 09:13 AM

Is the Clinton camp so pathetically desperate that they have some noob campaign worker trolling GFY with an Obama smear campaign?

Lol.. I would put it past 'em. Losers.

Splum 02-25-2008 10:12 AM

Yes because we know all you losers actually vote. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 13829414)
Is the Clinton camp so pathetically desperate that they have some noob campaign worker trolling GFY with an Obama smear campaign? Lol.. I would put it past 'em. Losers.


Martin 02-25-2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 13829414)
Is the Clinton camp so pathetically desperate that they have some noob campaign worker trolling GFY with an Obama smear campaign?

Lol.. I would put it past 'em. Losers.

Sure looks that way.. I mean who the fuck is this guy?? Just showing up out of the blue with this stuff. :321GFY

LB-69 02-25-2008 11:26 AM

And let say if he was muslim, I think is a good beginning for talking with Arab world instead of fighting...:winkwink:

Brad 02-25-2008 11:48 AM

This is why there needs to be a separation of Church and State in the US. Religion has no place in politics.

Sarah_Jayne 02-25-2008 11:51 AM

Top Aid To Tony Blair when he was in office: 'We don't do religion'.

D Ghost 02-25-2008 12:59 PM

lol hahaha

The Truth Hurts 02-25-2008 12:59 PM

your nick sucks.

ADL Colin 02-25-2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13823891)
The first thing Jesus would say if he came back and heard that would be didnt you read my teachings?

After getting over the initial shock of someone having written them down.

after that he'd probably be shocked at what they did write down

todhunter 02-25-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13823891)
The first thing Jesus would say if he came back and heard that would be didnt you read my teachings?

To which I would respond, "Like the part about rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and rendering unto God that which is God's? Those teachings?"

--t

James124 02-25-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyProfits (Post 13828573)
There are about 1.2 billion muslims in the world, they represent about 22% of the world's population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.

Islam is growing about 2.9% per year. This is faster than the total world population which increases about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a progressively larger percentage of the world's population.

Now tell me how many of those 1.2 billion muslims are terrorists or support terrorism? If just every 100th muslim was a terrorist, the United States were already nuked back to the stone age...

Let me comment on your "Islam is a success" as a religion/culture position, and "religion should not play a role":

Islam grows throughout the world because non-muslim countries take the muslims in. Meaning essentially that Islam either already "failed" in the region these muslims ran from, or the muslims are tired of being poor and they play the "feel sorry for me card", or a combination of this and the wish of extremist priests to spread Islam to the whole world.

The problem is that where ever islam goes, the "extremist element" follows along and is allowed to thrive; Most peaceful muslims, never seem to take a stance against the extremist muslims in their midst. The whole point is that in the event of conflict and fear among the muslims, they will seek to the "strong" extremist elements for help and protection, and then the bloodbath begins. I can't think of another religion/culture that succeeds by failing and then exporting itself. Eventually I fear that Islam will take over the world, by following this very simple formula => fail -> export -> breed fast -> fail -> export -> breed fast ->... The success you imply means oppression of OTHER RELIGIONS, ignorance, a swarm of death, fucked up attitude towards women, and no freedom! All in all a WORLD FAIL!

kmanrox 02-25-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13823915)
Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn't mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama.

Ah, a black racist, thats something new.

you're just on a high horse because you dont have black ppl in your country!

potter 02-26-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 13828543)
You don't see how being muslim could affect his chances of becoming president of the united states? Really?

Oh no, I totally do. However I'm saying the reasons are bullshit. There's a huge population of morons here in the states. Alot of which grasp onto this media fear and war on terrorism pushing the idea that muslims are bad people. Which is just stupid.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 04-23-2008 07:15 AM

Jesus Loves Obama

Mistah Charlie 04-23-2008 07:22 AM

The truth is you are a lying motherfucker spreading discredited lies. What they hell are you doing on our board? Go Fuck Yourself! Post on some wing nut board where people will be receptive to your racist screed. Asshole.

Cherry7 04-23-2008 07:23 AM

Who ever you vote for will represent the rich and powerful (whatever race, creed or sex)...

Bush was better for the rest of the world as he was so bad...South American independance...strong euro, etc...


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