Legal Porn or Real Rape? (video)
 

I've seen a lot of extreme/rough sex videos from many sponsors but never something like this.

It's a maxhardcore scene.

At one point he says 'Stoopid little fuck hoar, now get your 10yo sister down here so I can fuck her too...'

Are we at a point where everything is valid to make some $$ ?

Be warned it's almost rape.

http://www.tnaflix.com/view_video.ph...e109b176733be8

now we see why he is in trouble..

Max takes it to the max

umm, did she just say her dad fucked her forher first time when she was 3?

i read somewhere that max hardcore needs constant therapy and medication to deal with the what he does for a living. NO SHIT!!!???

not sure where you read that, but I find that hard to believe. I have met and hung out with max a few times. He is one of the nicest and most down to earth people in the biz, and in fact, he was nicer than most porn guys to my wife..he is ALWAYS 100% upfront and straight forward about what he does

it confused the hell out of us the first time we met him, you don't expect someone that does scenes like that to be so nice

WTF is this shit? ROFL... Who the fuck buys membership to this site? Where does he find girls to do this, thats insane...

I do not think its a good idea to make that kinda stuff for more reasons other than what the law has to say about it...

Infact...
The fuck with the law.
Wrong is wrong.
Period.

The guy should be shot.

i have a hard time believing anyone who pisses in chick's mouths, slaps bitches around, promotes incest with toddlers, and says he's going to rapefuck 10 year olds for a living is that reasonable a person. i'd say there's something seriously fucked up with the dude, even if he does it all for show. even most serial murderers and rapist's neighbors and acquaintances go around saying they seemed like "such nice people" lol....

thats about the same crap that provoked this

http://www.lightspeedcash.com/poolfight.jpg

You're all idiots. Max is Max. He's been around longer than most of you chodes and has helped this industy more than you EVER will. How many of you fucks have gone to court to defend our FREEDOM OF SPEECH??? Fucking NONE of you. Shut your cock holes and go preach somewhere else.

Cunts.

My last comment was not about you. You've done a lot for this industry.

So you're saying it's all cool if everyone starts mentioning incestuous rape of 3 year olds in their hardcore rape scenes? You do realize their are a lot of faggot pedophiles and so forth who have pressed for freedom of speech too you know? Do you support them with the same gusto or were they not there to buy you a drink at the last show? Someone has been around "longer" so that makes them right? YOU SIR ARE A FUCKING IDIOT...

You don't have to like it. Don't fucking watch it if you disagree. Why post a link to it if you don't agree with it? Why spread the problem? If you believe this is REAL, I would like to sell you a membership to the BangBus! That shit is real too! So is Santa Fucking Claus.

That biddiatch made a fat paycheck from that scene. She knows who Max is and went to him for work. If you believed it, he did his job, and that's why he makes money from this. He's good at what he does. I don't necessarily agree with his content, but I do agree with his right to do it. Until they outlaw it entirely, he has every right to shoot it. And it will be a sad fucking day in this hell hole if it ever does get outlawed, because that day, my friends, will be when we can all bend over and kiss our asses goodbye.

We as an industry really do not need people like this standing up for us for obvious reasons...
I think any one of us would love to stand up and fight for our rights and would...

However to ask the authorities to come kick our asses is not on our agenda.

Regardless of the perception that fighting the government is a good thing and for the defense of our rights any one of us ( Well at least me ) would love to fight but hey let's fight something worth fighting for.

I wouldnt fight for this kind of stuff, infact if asked I would fight for it to be made illegal. Sim rape is for sicko's, just like creating teen content with borderline 18 girls that sell them selves as underage online.

It does not take a rocket scientist to understand that kind of material is truly just wrong in nature.

I do not think what the actor has to say justifies it whats so ever.

How much would she have gotten paid to do that?

Does it really matter?

The U.S. doesn't police the world. Rape, Sim Rape, C P, and all that other shit is always going to be out there , in other countries even IF we can manage to get rid of it in the U.S., until we DO Police the World. This is a guy doing what he does best. Demolishing cute girls. I don't personally like his content and that's why I don't buy it, or watch it. But I will defend to the death his right to shoot it. Just as I would yours or anyone elses.

I really don't know at what point a line should be drawn on this type of content, i don't necessarily think simulation rape should be outlawed. but i'm pretty positive having a skinny little chick say her dad was her first fuck when she was 3 years old, then "simulation" assraping her while repeatedly saying you're gonna force her to bring her 10 year old sister in for the same hardcore rape treatment, is pretty much taking things beyond and line of reason

no one here thinks it's real you fucking tard knightmare. we just think it's pushing the line a little too far when you start bring topics like this into the mix. i for one don't think we need a guy like this standing up as a representative fighting for our freedom of expression. he's ore of a stain on the industry than anything else. this type of thing is exactly the scaprgoat activist groups love to find and use to their advantage.

I'm going to guess, Market price + a bit more due to the nature of it.

Well...
tell that to the pissed off relatives one day that come and kill you personally.
Whats to say one of these girls he has shot over the years has family. I can see that feasibly happening or maybe it already has and it was just a good cover up.

Clearly more reasons to just not shoot this kind of stuff.
It goes beyond the law and just may end up killing you one way or the other.

There are worse things than Prison and generally those things go beyond the scope of the law...

It's just dangerous to make this kind of stuff period.

Right. If you never have to face it, it doesn't exist. I would wager that a good percentage of these industry girls have been abused in their real lives. I'm not saying all of them, but the ones who would end up on Max's couch, are probably good candidates.

Would you defend child molestor's freedom to shoot kiddie porn too, if it happened to have a legal opening or production??

What happened there?

I'm going to 100% agree with you on this...

I was there.

Basically Max Hardcore just about got his ass kicked by one of us.
Max is in the Panties, Steve Lightspeed and the guy that throws chairs out windows.

Why would they come kill ME? I don't give a fuck about this chicks life. SHE chose to do the shoot. If she ended up on his couch, SHE KNEW what she was getting into. You don't end up shooting a scene with Max Hardcore and NOT know who he is and what he does. That simply doesn't happen.

ooo snap

Dude in black shorts I got no clue:)

I am just saying for example, not you LOL!
For gods sakes.

I am just saying going out making this kind of stuff has far more hazards than just the law someday outlawing it.

PS: I am glad ya do not make that kinda stuff.

Smoke another blunt. I'm not going to get into "What IF" conversations about rediculous shit like that. Nobody would defend that. That's not what this thread is about. This thread is about Max Hardcore. If you don't know who he is, which apparently you do not, then don't open your fat hole, because you're in over your head.

Of course it's hazardous. All porn is to some degree hazardous. Someone could slip on a tube of lube. AIM aren't always current. Someone could rip a vag, or tear an anus. There are many hazards. His shoots may be a bit more dangerous than others sometimes, but if the girl isn't comfortable with it, she can simply not take the check and not do the scene.

Sick video, and a sick fuck for making it... The conversation at the start is fucken rank...

He should get in a lot of shit for that.... Fucken tool...

WTF? This video is just so wrong. I stopped watching at 02:3 when I hear the following..

- Daddy was my first.
Wow really!? How old where when you first had sex with Daddy?
- I was 3.

WTF? I never knew he did shit like this. This is just so wrong! It doesn't matter if it's not for real but you just don't kid around about stuff like that and any sane person should know that.

If he is in legal troubles over stuff like this video I hope he goes to jail for a long ass time or gets some real good mental help because this guy obviously has a screw loose.

I've known who MaxHardcore is for a long time, and have had little to argue against what he's done in the past. None of it was knew to the world by any means. Simulation rape, fisting, watersports, it was all done long before Max came along. However the subject matter involved in a lot of what is said in this particular video HAS NO FUCKING PLACE IN THE INDUSTRY. If roducers started to roduce content discussing this sort of shit on a widespread scale, you'd better believe that there would be a huge uproar. It is just plain WRONG. But because it happens to not be illegal to say you're gonna assrape a 10 year old in an adult film while you are depicting an act of rape, you defend the right to say it. Which is why I ask the question which you skipped around. Even though raping little kids is obviously fucking wrong, and obviously illegal, if it happened to have some legal loophole, i doubt you would be standing up running your mouth defending anyone's legal right to do it. Even if it barely scraped by with current law. So what's your agenda in arguing someone's legal right to do something that is still obviously wrong and probably SHOULD be legally restricted?

Sick shit... Just wrong.

this is wrong :(

Bubble Butts 17 (1993)
-Pamela Dee; In 1992, Little sent performer Pamela Dee to the emergency room at St. Joseph's Hospital in Burbank "after she suffered vaginal hemorrhaging during a taping," writes Nick Ravo in the 2/98 ICON magazine. Dee, a writer in Reno, Nevada told Ravo that Paul came up behind her and, without warning, rammed his fist into her vagina. "I never heard of anything like that done to anyone before. I felt ripped open. He also said he would pay my medical bills, but he never did. He could kill someone - he should be behind bars. But no one in the industry criticizes him because he makes a lot of money. He really screwed me up."

Source:
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthread...7446&type=post

And here is another one from the same link
This piece of shit needs to go to jail.

no its cunts like him we have to get out of the industry if we ever wanna be taken seriously...did he defend freedom of speech as it relates to rape and child porn? if so he can GFY as can you

That guy must be stopped..
He is Sick!

Who says what he does is "Wrong"? Who should be the council that determines what is right and wrong? Did you know it's "LEGAL" in India to beat your wife? Do you want to go preach to them that it's "Wrong"? Did you know that it's legal to have sex with a 16 y/o in Mississippi? Do you want to go parade down there and tell them it's wrong? Come on man. What's wrong for you isn't always wrong for someone else. As a society, we have general rules when it comes to this kind of thing. It's society as a whole who make these decisions, not you or me, but the general populus. And to this day, his content is still LEGAL. So why bitch about it now... on a board? Write your congressman. Write Dubbya. DO SOMETHING about it other than come here and bitch to people who really don't give a shit, and probably won't ever do anything about it. Max is out there fighting for freedom of speech. What are you out there fighting for?

I can't believe there are actually people that defends these kinds of people/movies where you see girls get abused to the point that they emotionally breaks or when the sicko camera man has to step in to abort what he personally thinks is rape.

Just checked his website and Epoch is processing for his website. How the fuck can they process for this?

All of his most violent and fucked up scenes that he aren't able to include in his DVD's/VHS movies are on his website. According to the link below he got scat content on the site... WTF?
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthread...7446&type=post

According to his paysite program website he is using CCBill as well!

I think the real question is where is the adult industry willing or comfortable or even able to draw the line on what is illegal and legal...

Sad state of affairs for sure. No one in this industry can agree with anything in unison. It's pretty much impossible, not to mention the rogue states outside the bounds of american law.

Nothing will change.
Sadly.

http://www.lightspeedcash.com/poolfight.jpg

OH and the dude sitting in the chair with a smoke who's face is not seen I believe is Tucker.:1orglaugh

If I remember right and this was many years ago.
It's a pretty symbolic and story telling photo.

Shit, I just skimmed through the video and analyzed it. Basically I'd say she knew what she was getting into but at a few points she did come out of character and say stuff like "that really hurts", "I can't breath", "I can't do this" and he answers everyone of these statements with a hard slap on the face.

I would say he definitely took it too far and crossed the line of the contract that girl signed. She basically got paid to get raped. And yes I would consider it rape because she essentially told him to stop multiple times and he just kept going. She had no power or control and was not protected in any way and she realized while doing it that there would be no way to stop this guy even if she wanted to.

It is very sad to see young girls end up in videos like this because stuff like that will fuck her up psychologically for the rest of her life. She was very obviously in pain in many parts and had to withdraw herself from the situation to be able to even make it through. Very sad video.

I would imagine she knew what she was getting into to. I'm not saying she didn't regret it once it was happening, but she saw im coming im sure. I bet they have some sort of 'safety word' or something to get him to really stop. You can see parts of the video were edited after she says stop some of the times. If the girl isn't going 'no no please stop' it isn't really simulated rape is it...

YOU SIR ARE A FUCKING IDIOT :2 cents:

nobody told her to shoot the scene

Well, at first I was thinking "These guys are over-reacting", but after watching the clip, I have to say, he REALLY broke that girl down, I actually felt bad for her when he kept slapping her and pissing in her face, forcing her to swallow at one point, then forcing her to make herself puke, ughh.

I guess the biggest question I could ask is, do these girls actually know what they're getting themselves into ?? Does Max actaully show him previous clips and say "THIS is what I'm going to do to you, are you 100% sure you want to go through with it". Hopefully it's not a situation where it's just "You're gonna come in and do a girl/guy scene".