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Paul Markham 03-18-2008 03:58 AM

I've been banned from another board.
 
:thumbsup

Seems Askdamage does not want me asking him anything.

They seem to think I should come running over to them to apolagise for calling someone using my content, knowing he did not have the license and without my consent or paying me for it's transfer, a pirate.

He wasn't a customer that's for sure. :1orglaugh

But me and the person concerned settled our difference of opinion, resolved the matter for free for him and we had kissed and made up. Damage was miffed I did not go say sorry to him. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Chio 03-18-2008 04:00 AM

Just give him some magic join links and I'm sure he'll come around.

kmanrox 03-18-2008 04:00 AM

i smell dramaaaaaaaa

bobby666 03-18-2008 04:49 AM

life hurts soo much

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 13934144)
Just give him some magic join links and I'm sure he'll come around.

I think, he thinks I care.

Jens Van Assterdam 03-18-2008 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934213)
I think, he thinks I care.

if you woudnt care why do you post it here? OWNED!!!!!!!!!111111 :1orglaugh

Chef86 03-18-2008 04:51 AM

That sucks

Violetta 03-18-2008 05:48 AM

Damagex?

Sausage 03-18-2008 05:50 AM

1 less board to spam on. Oh dear.

crockett 03-18-2008 07:16 AM

If I remember right.. the person bought a paysite with the content already on it.. Content that had already been bought legally.

You then tried to blackmail him on the boards calling him a theif.. isn't that about the way it went down?

nation-x 03-18-2008 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13934597)
If I remember right.. the person bought a paysite with the content already on it.. Content that had already been bought legally.

You then tried to blackmail him on the boards calling him a theif.. isn't that about the way it went down?

That's my take on the situation...

signupdamnit 03-18-2008 07:20 AM

For my own sanity I am putting you on ignore right now, Paul. When i read your writings I simply get too angry.

Gambit 03-18-2008 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934213)
I think, he thinks I care.

Having a moan about it on here kinda suggests you do.

BVF 03-18-2008 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934141)
:thumbsup

Seems Askdamage does not want me asking him anything.

They seem to think I should come running over to them to apolagise for calling someone using my content, knowing he did not have the license and without my consent or paying me for it's transfer, a pirate.

He wasn't a customer that's for sure. :1orglaugh

But me and the person concerned settled our difference of opinion, resolved the matter for free for him and we had kissed and made up. Damage was miffed I did not go say sorry to him. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're a lowlife who tried to shake down somebody for money so that you could keep your young eastern european wife....

If you want to be super technical about it, maybe you were in the right.....But if you were such an awesome content producer with titles flying out the door like you claim....and with internet sales going through the roof like you claim, why would you nitpick with somebody over content that you already got paid for?

Jace 03-18-2008 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13934597)
If I remember right.. the person bought a paysite with the content already on it.. Content that had already been bought legally.

You then tried to blackmail him on the boards calling him a theif.. isn't that about the way it went down?

that about sums it up

fastboy 03-18-2008 09:07 AM

everybody get what deserve, sooner or later

Paco, of Large Cash. 03-18-2008 09:20 AM

Looks to me like you and Lawrence Connor and in race.

So far, you both are tied ... or should be!

StuBradley 03-18-2008 09:35 AM

You sure you didn't get banned for anything else Spammy McSpammerson.

minddust 03-18-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 13934367)
1 less board to spam on. Oh dear.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh noessss he's the only content producer around.....

DamageX 03-18-2008 09:56 AM

Congrats to the winners! :thumbsup

tranza 03-18-2008 09:58 AM

And we care why??.............

AdPatron 03-18-2008 10:02 AM

Damn drama!

Zorgman 03-18-2008 10:09 AM

How many boards you banned from now Paul, is that 5 or 6 boards?

payd2purv 03-18-2008 10:11 AM

*cough*dosattack*cough*

jscott 03-18-2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934141)
:thumbsup
Seems Askdamagex does not want me asking him anything.

what is askdamagex?

i'm gonna google for it right now so i can see what you're talking about

:1orglaugh

GAMEFINEST 03-18-2008 10:13 AM

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayam

2012 03-18-2008 10:18 AM

i got drama in my pants pepeto

baddog 03-18-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13934597)
If I remember right.. the person bought a paysite with the content already on it.. Content that had already been bought legally.

You then tried to blackmail him on the boards calling him a theif.. isn't that about the way it went down?


While I have no dog in this fight, I should mention something.

When you buy a paysite there is no guarantee that the content license/rights are transferable.

That is the first or second question I ask any seller.

BradM 03-18-2008 10:20 AM

You're an idiot Paul, I don't blame anyone for not wanting anything to do with you.

D 03-18-2008 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 13934628)
But if you were such an awesome content producer with titles flying out the door like you claim....and with internet sales going through the roof like you claim, why would you nitpick with somebody over content that you already got paid for?

I thought that, in response to expressed concern regarding recent general business practices that Paul's adopted, he's put it out there that he's broke, and has "no choice" but to sell out to tubes.

But, then again, it's not like I've been paying the strictest attention to all the drama, so maybe I'm missing something.

AssPirate 03-18-2008 10:41 AM

woooaahhh...that sucks...anyway let it be...somehow there's reason for that...

tony286 03-18-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935270)
While I have no dog in this fight, I should mention something.

When you buy a paysite there is no guarantee that the content license/rights are transferable.

That is the first or second question I ask any seller.

You do have a point.Now if Paul wasn't desperate for cash, what he could of done. Since the site is full of his work and if it sells for the guy.He is going to need more eventually for updates. He could of created a on going business relationship.

rowan 03-18-2008 11:50 AM

Paul, while I may not agree with outright banning you had fair warning for several days that it was going to happen unless you apologised - not one post appeared from you defending yourself or explaining why you shouldn't apologise, when you're usually quite vocal about things.

Keeeepppp digging, Mr. Martyr. :1orglaugh

bashbug 03-18-2008 01:03 PM

Paul is such a tool.

aico 03-18-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934213)
I think, he thinks I care.

ya making a thread about it is a sure way to show you don't care.

digifan 03-18-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13934213)
I think, he thinks I care.

You sure do, you did this post... and I think it is against the gfy rules to mention other forums.

ideaworx 03-18-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 13935187)
Congrats to the winners! :thumbsup



hahahaha, dont take it so personally, kudos mate +1 +1... Paul, you got OWNED!

SHANESWORLD 03-18-2008 02:49 PM

i am teh surprised, that place is all about saying what you feel.

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13934597)
If I remember right.. the person bought a paysite with the content already on it.. Content that had already been bought legally.

You then tried to blackmail him on the boards calling him a thief.. isn't that about the way it went down?

No it's not.

The content was never bought, a license to use the content was bought. The license is written to a person not a site, the license is not for transfer by that person. It has to be transfered by us. The original seller knew this and ignored it, the new buyer found it out when I told him and still used the content.

Two points. If someone buys a license to publish or view he has to abide by the terms of the license. Otherwise a member can think he has a right to buy a membership and post the site on Torrents. Same twist on ignoring licenses.

If it were the original buyers right to transfer the license how do we stop sites like Megarotic and Zango picking up legal content for cheap.

The sites with our content are still up, the content is still being used and no license has been issued to the new owners. In some sort of contact with them over ICQ, it's dragging on.

The original buyer was also breaking the terms of the license by using some inside the affiliates area and by selling the license. I wonder if Damage allows his members and affiliates to ignore his Terms of Service as easily as he thinks I should?

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 13934628)
You're a lowlife who tried to shake down somebody for money so that you could keep your young eastern european wife....

If you want to be super technical about it, maybe you were in the right.....But if you were such an awesome content producer with titles flying out the door like you claim....and with internet sales going through the roof like you claim, why would you nitpick with somebody over content that you already got paid for?

Because the content was never bought. A license was bought. Why do people moan if a member signs up and think he's bought the content to do with as he pleases?

Why don't I just let any original buyer do as he please with the "content he buys" because I have other clients who bother to stick to the rules. Maybe I should ignore them.

After Shock Media 03-18-2008 11:24 PM

nevermind... not doing this yet again.

Paul you are right and so very damn wrong.

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13935270)
While I have no dog in this fight, I should mention something.

When you buy a paysite there is no guarantee that the content license/rights are transferable.

That is the first or second question I ask any seller.

Don't start using common sense and logic Baddog. :1orglaugh

Amazing that one thread is telling us we all need to stop copyright theft, breaking the terms of a license is copyright theft IMO, then when some asks a licenssee to abide to a license he's pulled to shreds.

You were the first person to realise it's a license not content that was bought. :thumbsup

baddog 03-18-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13938714)
You were the first person to realise it's a license not content that was bought. :thumbsup

It's my job to know some stuff.

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13935430)
You do have a point.Now if Paul wasn't desperate for cash, what he could of done. Since the site is full of his work and if it sells for the guy.He is going to need more eventually for updates. He could of created a on going business relationship.

The price for the new license is a peppercorn payment. Me and the second buyer fell out because of his insistence that the "content" was his and I should just rewrite the license and resupply it because it was all lost while he had it on his tour and affiliates area.

We settled it off the board, but money has still not crossed and the license is still not transferred, free or otherwise and I suspect still in the site and likely still in the affiliates area.

They claim to not even know what is mine.

Yes I did handle it badly, I should of told the original buyer to do as he please, or told the second buyer he could do as he please and sell it to a third buyer, who again can do as he pleases. What's the point of having a license if licensees can do as they please?

I really do not see what I did wrong, other than losing my cool when people ignored the license, we issue a license that licensees are asked to stick to.

Maybe I should say fuck it pay me $30 bucks a set and do what ever you please. That would help the business today a lot.

Paul Markham 03-18-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13938736)
It's my job to know some stuff.

Good for you, it seems most on this board have a two level interpretation to licenses. When they sell them, memberships, they expect the buyer to stick to them. When they buy them they are for ignoring.

After Shock Media seriously other than losing my cool when I was ignored and the license broke in many ways, what did I do wrong?

I asked a licensee to stick to a license. In fact I insisted he stick to a license. If you bought a license on a product would you like it if others ignored it while you stick to it?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-18-2008 11:50 PM

aren't you banned from the pond too? lol

quantum-x 03-18-2008 11:55 PM

yeah, NP, AdX
Who is going to make the trifecta :D

Jel 03-18-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13938688)
blahblahblah yackety schmackety

If it were the original buyers right to transfer the license how do we stop sites like Megarotic and Zango picking up legal content for cheap.

blahblahblah yackety schmackety

I'm new, but zango use content?

Paul Markham 03-19-2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 13938788)
I'm new, but zango use content?

Which is why content licensor's should be in control of the license and not leave it to people who are selling up and getting out of the business to decide on who should have the new license.

Thanks for bringing that one up Jel. Very good point. :thumbsup

Would people prefer we ignore license abuse and when we find it just smile and bend over. Or is it right for one person to stick to a license and the other to ignore it?

Please people I need an answer on this because I need you to tell me how you want the business to run?

OK I could of handled it better, I could of let the license abuser shaft me and smiled while he did it. I should not of called the guy who was using the content without a license, that had already been broke a pirate and a thief. He was as we all know just a guy ignoring a license so he could make a buck.

Nothing wrong in that and I'm sorry for being so rude and getting upset that he totally ignored me.

And to those who don't want to buy and will put me on ignore for being a person who gets upset when his license is ignored. Please send me your site links so I can send people to your site to ignore your license. Or is that wrong? */sarcasm*

L-Pink 03-19-2008 01:13 AM

From what I read and what the new owner admitted, the new owner admitted he wasn't diligent enough with his pre-purchase understanding of what he was purchasing. The seller also didn't disclose he was selling property his corporation didn't own. The new owner admitted he was wrong.

Paul found his content being used by someone he didn't have any business dealings. A pissing match ensued and being 100% legally correct Paul turned into a hard-ass.

If contacted prior to the sale I'm sure Paul would have issued a new license for a token amount or thrown it in if more content was purchased. In fact a very agreeable arrangement was worked out.

In this case I think Paul was given a lot more shit than he deserved.


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