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directfiesta 03-30-2008 09:31 AM

Linux Declared 'Hacker Proof' - MAC fails !!!
 
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Vancouver, British Columbia (AHN)-- The Linux running on a Sony Vaio remained undefeated at the end of a three-way computer hacking challenge Friday at the CanSecWest conference.

Sponsors had wagered three laptops to anyone who could hack into one of the systems and run their own software. A $20,000 cash prize sweetened the deal.

The MacBook Air went first; Independent Security Evaluators' Charlie Miller took the Mac after about two minutes work on Thursday. Miller took home $10,000, courtesy of 3Com's TippingPoint division, in addition to the new laptop.

After two days of work, Shane Macaulay finally cracked the tiny Fujitsu laptop running Vista on Friday, with a little help from his friends.

Macaulay said the flaw he exploited was a cross-platform bug that took advantage of Java to circumvent Vista's security.Macaulay said he chose to work on Vista because he had done contract work for Microsoft in the past and was more familiar with its products.

TippingPoint Manager Terri Forslof said several attendees tried to crack the Linux box, but nobody could pull it off. She noted that some had found bugs in the Linux operating system but many of them didn't want to put the work into developing the exploit code that would be required to win the contest.
Interesting ....

who 03-30-2008 09:36 AM

It doesn't really say a lot about the hardware. I'd like to know what security measures were in place on each system, who put them in place, etc.

SmokeyTheBear 03-30-2008 09:44 AM

the prize for hacking the linux box was not enough. Much more money in selling the hack than winning the prize.

who 03-30-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13997765)
the prize for hacking the linux box was not enough. Much more money in selling the hack than winning the prize.

Interesting point. But surely it would be competitive enough for at least one serious hacker to try his best?

It's all about feats and being better than your fellow hackers, not money.

SmokeyTheBear 03-30-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 13997779)
It's all about feats and being better than your fellow hackers, not money.


Thats what we would like to believe :winkwink:

It's always about the money. There's 1 ethical hacker for every 1000 unethical hackers.

who 03-30-2008 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13997803)
Thats what we would like to believe :winkwink:

It's always about the money. There's 1 ethical hacker for every 1000 unethical hackers.

Alright but let's say ten hackers could have won the prize by hacking the linux box. Would they all have declined to do so so that they could sell their hack instead of making it public? I think at least one guy would go for the cash, and since you said it's all about the money, surely most of them would try to get it?



Now that I think about it. I am probably only arguing about this for the sake of typing. I don't think I'm right. I'm just arguing :) :thumbsup

payd2purv 03-30-2008 10:10 AM

I am really not surprised they couldn't hack linux based on how linux is used and who uses it. Holes get found very quickly and are patched just as quick.

Fap 03-30-2008 10:52 AM

haha mac got owned

d-null 03-30-2008 11:00 AM

Does anyone know exactly what this contest required?

So they hand you a laptop and say "hack it"..... what is required to define the words "hack it"?

Libertine 03-30-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13997803)
Thats what we would like to believe :winkwink:

It's always about the money. There's 1 ethical hacker for every 1000 unethical hackers.

I have to disagree with that. Most hackers I know hack for sport, not profits. Many even spend lots of time contributing code to open source projects, trying to get prestige rather than money.

I used to hack myself, and the biggest reward always was the adrenaline rush whenever I finally got close to breaking an encryption scheme or layer of security.

The very first thing I ever cracked was a really, really lame encryption scheme. I spent about 70 hours working on it non-stop, and the feeling when I finally broke it was better than sex :)

Michaelious 03-30-2008 11:06 AM

I like how the MAC was the easiest to beat lol

SmokeyTheBear 03-30-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 13997994)
I have to disagree with that. Most hackers I know hack for sport, not profits. Many even spend lots of time contributing code to open source projects, trying to get prestige rather than money.

thats because hackers who hack for profit , dont do it for glory they are unseen and unheard for the most part.

I think if the contest was open to everyone it would be as you say, someone would do it for glory.

SmokeyTheBear 03-30-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 13997830)

Now that I think about it. I am probably only arguing about this for the sake of typing. I don't think I'm right. I'm just arguing :) :thumbsup

nah, you do have a point, just the contest wasn't open to everyone.

Libertine 03-30-2008 11:17 AM

A minor note on the results: the Mac was hacked because of a hole in Safari. Use Firefox instead, and you should be a fair bit safer.

VeriSexy 03-30-2008 11:29 AM

Nothing is hacker proof

Emil 03-31-2008 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 13997985)
Does anyone know exactly what this contest required?

So they hand you a laptop and say "hack it"..... what is required to define the words "hack it"?

Sponsors had wagered three laptops to anyone who could hack into one of the systems and run their own software.

Dagwolf 03-31-2008 03:48 AM

Unhackable is quite a claim. It hardly seems justified based on the article.

ladida 03-31-2008 05:16 AM

Bullshit contest, as with all other media coverage on "hacking".

Think of how they cover porn and what kind of picture they put to the public about it. It's the same, even worse truth-wise.

chelo - adultcopywriters 03-31-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy (Post 13998096)
Nothing is hacker proof

Simply the ultimate truth!

stickyfingerz 03-31-2008 08:19 PM

But wait Mac was hacked BEFORE Vista? It took 2 minutes, and Vista took 2 days. Wait wait wait. Isnt IE a easily hackable thing? And microsoft is a piece of easily virus infected shit? Hmm....

pornask 03-31-2008 08:21 PM

MAC = http://i19.tinypic.com/8br7pjn.jpg

Bojangles 03-31-2008 08:26 PM

Ouch. Poor mac.

Matt 26z 03-31-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14004615)
But wait Mac was hacked BEFORE Vista? It took 2 minutes, and Vista took 2 days. Wait wait wait. Isnt IE a easily hackable thing? And microsoft is a piece of easily virus infected shit? Hmm....

Not only that but the hacker needed help from his friends to get into Vista.

But Apple's target market will never hear about any of this.

Drake 03-31-2008 08:38 PM

I think it's safe to say almost everything can be hacked.

stickyfingerz 03-31-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33 (Post 14004681)
I think it's safe to say almost everything can be hacked.

And in this particular case it only took 2 MINUTES to hack a BRAND NEW TOP OF THE LINE MAC AIR! :winkwink:

viencarl 04-01-2008 06:36 AM

i wonder how big that mans brain???

candyflip 04-01-2008 06:52 AM

None of them were able to do it in the first day, so the second day they loosened up the restrictions and cut the prize money from $20k, to $10k.

The guy who cracked the Macbook, was one of the first to hack the iPhone.

Basic_man 04-01-2008 06:56 AM

The Macbook Air cracked in 2 minutes... LOLLLLLLLLLLLL :1orglaugh

beta-tester 04-01-2008 07:20 AM

Linux is definitely one of the most security platform on the planet!


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