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notoldschool 04-14-2008 06:10 PM

Give me 1 logical reason pot is illegal.
 
I dont think you can.

posh rat in hell 04-14-2008 06:13 PM

Because it's fun.
Speeding is illegal for similar reasons.

notoldschool 04-14-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posh rat in hell (Post 14068353)
Because it's fun.
Speeding is illegal for similar reasons.

Speeding is dangerous for the driver and people on the roads. Pot is not nearly as dangerous, not even in the ball park, for the person who uses it, nor is it dangerous to other people when you smoke it. Next.

evildick 04-14-2008 06:20 PM

It's too easy for people to grow themselves, therefore the government can't tax it and make money off of it very easily.

So of course the only logical thing to do is to make it illegal. Ya, that's the ticket.

:error

CurrentlySober 04-14-2008 06:20 PM

Because it cant be taxed

moeloubani 04-14-2008 06:21 PM

Because the long term effects of pot use haven't been thoroughly studied, the main way of taking it is smoking it and that is harmful, it makes some people lazy which lowers productivity, it doesn't smell good for some people, it slows down reaction times which can be dangerous, it induces a false sense of hunger which isn't good.

Probono 04-14-2008 06:26 PM

It is illegal in the US because it was used a method of deporting Mexican workers during the depression in the 1930's. Richard Nixon forced the current US drug laws to make it a major offense federally. The US forced many other countries into making it illegal if they wanted handouts. All politics, all the time.

papill0n 04-14-2008 06:28 PM

because governments cant tax it

halfpint 04-14-2008 06:28 PM

Because the law says it is, and the law is always correct :upsidedow

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-14-2008 06:29 PM

it makes the nigras go crazy...

TaylorMarieXXX 04-14-2008 06:31 PM

Because the strength of our country is directly related to the productivity and work of the people. Pot (and I smoked plenty of it back in the day) makes you content being a loser who doesn't get shit done or care about getting shit done.

CarlosTheGaucho 04-14-2008 06:32 PM

I suppose it's political pragmatism - it isn't around eversince, it has a lot of consumers - but it's kind of tough to introduce and enroll a new drug for taxation, at the moment when at least "publically" we are "fighting" against those legal drugs that make bank on taxes (aka no advertising for booze or cigarettes..).

If Pot was around 500 years ago, it would probably be a very a lucrative thing from the tax point of view, as it would become publically tolerated and the amount of regular (aka addicted) smokers would be massive..

Now it would still be very tough to explain to all the conservative voters that their son watching a coffee machine will once become a great and valuable / very much taxable contribution to our society..

cherrylula 04-14-2008 06:33 PM

Cannabis use causes people to abuse alcohol less, and the powerful booze lobbyists do not want cannabis to be legalized for this reason.

less booze sales = less profit for the alcohol capitalists

money is logical, profit makes sense.

Right now people are lobbying for cannabis, and California is leading the way to opening the governments eyes on how to PROFIT from medical marijuana.

They don't care what it does to peoples bodies. As long as they can profit.

notoldschool 04-14-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14068395)
Because the long term effects of pot use haven't been thoroughly studied, the main way of taking it is smoking it and that is harmful, it makes some people lazy which lowers productivity, it doesn't smell good for some people, it slows down reaction times which can be dangerous, it induces a false sense of hunger which isn't good.

People have been smoking pot since the begining of time and that says enough for me. Ive never known a single person to die from pot and the stats over decades prove that as well. In fact its proven to have health benefits as well. There is no long term studies of all the new NON NATURAL drugs flooding the market and killing our famalies as well all for HUGE profits. Your theory is idiotic and small minded. Educate yourself before spouting bullshit. I know multiple people that smoke more than occasionally and they have achieved more than you and all your freinds will for that matter.

Ciggerettes and alchohol make people smell far more disgusting than pot, as well as kill millions more than pot ever will, yet they are fine. It may make you hungry but thats a huge benefit for people with wasting diseases, and who really gives a fuck about that anyways.

I have to admit you are quite brainless if you really believe any of the garbage you just posted.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-14-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaylorMarieXXX (Post 14068429)
Because the strength of our country is directly related to the productivity and work of the people. Pot (and I smoked plenty of it back in the day) makes you content being a loser who doesn't get shit done or care about getting shit done.

That's total bullshit. Weed has in the past hauled me through many a large hardworked day...

notoldschool 04-14-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaylorMarieXXX (Post 14068429)
Because the strength of our country is directly related to the productivity and work of the people. Pot (and I smoked plenty of it back in the day) makes you content being a loser who doesn't get shit done or care about getting shit done.

You are a fucking tool with a dumb ass remark like that. Half the people on this board smoke and I would say another half of them make more money and work a shit load harder than you do.

cherrylula 04-14-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaylorMarieXXX (Post 14068429)
Because the strength of our country is directly related to the productivity and work of the people. Pot (and I smoked plenty of it back in the day) makes you content being a loser who doesn't get shit done or care about getting shit done.

Spoken like a true loser.

Pot doesn't do that to you, laziness and lack of self esteem does. :winkwink:

glad you made it out of all that!

pornguy 04-14-2008 06:40 PM

Being under the influence and driving. Has nothing to do with speeding.

moeloubani 04-14-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068437)
People have been smoking pot since the begining of time and that says enough for me. Ive never known a single person to die from pot and the stats over decades prove that as well. In fact its proven to have health benefits as well. There is no long term studies of all the new NON NATURAL drugs flooding the market and killing our famalies as well all for HUGE profits. Your theory is idiotic and small minded. Educate yourself before spouting bullshit. I know multiple people that smoke more than occasionally and they have achieved more than you and all your freinds will for that matter.

Ciggerettes and alchohol make people smell far more disgusting than pot, as well as kill millions more than pot ever will, yet they are fine. It may make you hungry but thats a huge benefit for people with wasting diseases, and who really gives a fuck about that anyways.

I have to admit you are quite brainless if you really believe any of the garbage you just posted.

lol yikes! You're an angry guy you should relax and smoke some weed yourself man! Yes I believe everything I posted, but at the same time I still smoke weed like a chimney, but you asked why it's not legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068437)
People have been smoking pot since the begining of time and that says enough for me.

People have been doing LOTS of shit thats wrong for a long time, that means nothing dude.


Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068437)
Ive never known a single person to die from pot and the stats over decades prove that as well. In fact its proven to have health benefits as well. There is no long term studies of all the new NON NATURAL drugs flooding the market and killing our famalies as well all for HUGE profits.

There is studies done on any drug that passes through the FDA, and lots of drugs don't make it through. Yes things have side effects but just because they might have passed a drug that later on turned out bad it doesn't mean they have to pass through weed, the two things aren't really related.

The fact that you've never known anyone to die from pot is cool, but that means nothing either, no one has ever died from being shit on by me but that doesn't make it ok, or for that matter no one has died from washing their hair with piss, but you just don't do that. It's not 'ok' to do just because no one has died from it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068437)
It may make you hungry but thats a huge benefit for people with wasting diseases, and who really gives a fuck about that anyways.

Caloric restriction (ie eating less) is the only 100% proven way to increase your life span, that means weed will cause you to live a shorter life because of that alone (if you eat alot when you're high).

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068437)
I have to admit you are quite brainless if you really believe any of the garbage you just posted.

Pretty sure I'm a 4th year chemical physics student at one of the top universities in Canada and if this were a real debate my word >> yours - but before you go crazy and launch into yarr yarr I'm just saying man, thats why it would be illegal, and yes its hypocritical but that isn't a reason to legalize it.

Spunky 04-14-2008 06:59 PM

Narcotics have to be regulated by the man

SiMpLe 04-14-2008 07:08 PM

ummmmm


Nope nothing comes to mind :)

theking 04-14-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068345)
I dont think you can.

Easy answer...it is a mind altering drug.

brand0n 04-14-2008 07:13 PM

money.....

notoldschool 04-14-2008 07:13 PM

FACT:
Number dont lie, and if you say your educated and cant figure out these stats then please stay in school because it aint workin.


Tobacco 430,7001
Alcohol 110,6402
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,0003
All Licit & Illicit Drug-Induced Deaths 16,9266
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs 7,6007
Marijuana/Entheogens 08

evildick 04-14-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 14068591)
Easy answer...it is a mind altering drug.

That makes sense, but how does alcohol get the pass then? I know after 30 beers my mind has been altered to the point that I am a complete vegetable.

moeloubani 04-14-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068593)
FACT:
Number dont lie, and if you say your educated and cant figure out these stats then please stay in school because it aint workin.


Tobacco 430,7001
Alcohol 110,6402
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,0003
All Licit & Illicit Drug-Induced Deaths 16,9266
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs 7,6007
Marijuana/Entheogens 08

So it being illegal is obviously working, why change that and lead to more deaths?

quantum-x 04-14-2008 07:19 PM

Why are castor beans legal? They make ricen, one of the most toxic poisons..
Why is sativa legal most everywhere?
Why are guns legal?
Why is it illegal to talk on a phone on a plane?

Because, for whatever reason, it is. Whether you choose to smoke or not is your own reasoned risk/reward conclusion.

tony286 04-14-2008 07:21 PM

there is none

theking 04-14-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evildick (Post 14068605)
That makes sense, but how does alcohol get the pass then? I know after 30 beers my mind has been altered to the point that I am a complete vegetable.

Alcohol is a mind altering drug and it should not get a pass. Because one mind altering drug is legal (which is not a good thing)...it is not a legitimate arguement that another mind altering drug should also be legal.

stfucash_edd 04-14-2008 07:25 PM

I don't really have an answer to your question, but I do have one concern...

Don't you think there should be more (or stricter) regulations set on alcohol? Last I heard, drunk driving is getting out of hand...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlcoholAlert.com
In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) ? 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year.

I searched a little bit (probably not as thoroughly as I should have) for traffic fatalities involving drivers who were under the influence of Marijuana -- I didn't find anything. :2 cents:

notoldschool 04-14-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14068609)
So it being illegal is obviously working, why change that and lead to more deaths?

So are you really trying to say noone is using pot because it is illegal. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Please get out of your moms basement once in a while.

The Truth Hurts 04-14-2008 07:33 PM

...because it turns seemingly normal well adjusted adults into complete fucking childish morons.

Barefootsies 04-14-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono (Post 14068412)
It is illegal in the US because it was used a method of deporting Mexican workers during the depression in the 1930's. Richard Nixon forced the current US drug laws to make it a major offense federally. The US forced many other countries into making it illegal if they wanted handouts. All politics, all the time.

:2 cents:

moeloubani 04-14-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068642)
So are you really trying to say noone is using pot because it is illegal. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Please get out of your moms basement once in a while.

Wow man again with the crazy angry insults! What a champ!

What I'm trying to say is there are lots of people who don't smoke weed because it's illegal, I'm not sure where you saw me say anything about everybody or noone.

D Ghost 04-14-2008 07:51 PM

there is no reason besides the bullshit reasons those in poswer give the public and the reasons the sheep give that follow thm

CarlosTheGaucho 04-14-2008 07:55 PM

Allow me to quote a classic:

Quote:

Well, there is this crucial thing I noticed, now I am sure you have seen it too (see this thread for reference):

Why do so many of the decent, nicer and more cultivated new breed of people, people who love the most peaceful and harmless drug in the world, peple who live the superbly peaceful and harmless lifestyle...

People who don't drink, smoke cigarettes, drink coffee or eat junk food, people who are cultivated, cocoon and vegetate with the better drug, the drug they know everything about.

People who are always ready and willing to preach the marijuana evangelium.

Why do so many of them have so much hate for the outside world?

Why do so many of them turn from Dr. Cannabis to Mr. Hyde - the hating, annoying creature drowning in anger and desperation anytime someone touches the peacemaker?
...

For anyone who never tried to smoke the thing, please read through this thread to dig all the information you need and feel free to go ahead.

But, in the name of the sanity - keep it in moderation, there is no use of wasting you precious time and abilities in the "better" world, we need you right here - in the fucked up world.

mortallove 04-14-2008 07:58 PM

People get lazy, lazy citiziens undermine the society. The system wants everyone to be worker ants.

Plus people react differently to it, some people just feel good, some people feel good with a slight paranoia, some people get REALLY paranoid,,, some people get addicted...


I dont understand the whole thing with pot... a couple shots of vodka is 11 times better

moeloubani 04-14-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14068758)
Allow me to quote a classic:

Thank you kind sir!

Wagerboy 04-14-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaylorMarieXXX (Post 14068429)
Because the strength of our country is directly related to the productivity and work of the people. Pot (and I smoked plenty of it back in the day) makes you content being a loser who doesn't get shit done or care about getting shit done.

100% NOT true....Ive had my best days after smoking :2 cents:

notoldschool 04-14-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14068677)
Wow man again with the crazy angry insults! What a champ!

What I'm trying to say is there are lots of people who don't smoke weed because it's illegal, I'm not sure where you saw me say anything about everybody or noone.

You implied that pot being illegal causes less deaths by deterring people from using it. Which is completely false crapola. If that were you true, how come
"All Licit & Illicit Drug-Induced Deaths 16,9266" accounts for far more deaths than Marijuana? Are all illicit drugs not illegal? I thought so.

Sausage 04-14-2008 08:16 PM

Surprised at some of the responses in this thread.

Know of 2 heavy long time users of pot, 1 being my brother. He has to have a smoke around 10-20 times a day just to remain sociable otherwise he gets violent, bad tempered, has massive mood changes etc. The other guy I know is pretty much the same. Its pretty easy to see why its illegal when you dont do it and see its effect on other heavy uses over a period of time. Literally a no brainer :)

woj 04-14-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14068392)
Because it cant be taxed

Why can't it be taxed? If it was legal I would imagine tobacco companies would jump on it, and sell it like they sell cigarettes now... no one would go through the trouble of growing it themselves when they can just buy a pack for $5...

CarlosTheGaucho 04-14-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14068846)
Surprised at some of the responses in this thread.

Know of 2 heavy long time users of pot, 1 being my brother. He has to have a smoke around 10-20 times a day just to remain sociable otherwise he gets violent, bad tempered, has massive mood changes etc. The other guy I know is pretty much the same. Its pretty easy to see why its illegal when you dont do it and see its effect on other heavy uses over a period of time. Literally a no brainer :)

Heavy use ain't no fun man.. I got the same experience..

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068444)
You are a fucking tool with a dumb ass remark like that. Half the people on this board smoke and I would say another half of them make more money and work a shit load harder than you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 14068446)
Spoken like a true loser.

Pot doesn't do that to you, laziness and lack of self esteem does. :winkwink:

glad you made it out of all that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 14068787)
100% NOT true....Ive had my best days after smoking :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts (Post 14068440)
That's total bullshit. Weed has in the past hauled me through many a large hardworked day...


halfpint 04-14-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14068846)
Surprised at some of the responses in this thread.

Know of 2 heavy long time users of pot, 1 being my brother. He has to have a smoke around 10-20 times a day just to remain sociable otherwise he gets violent, bad tempered, has massive mood changes etc. The other guy I know is pretty much the same. Its pretty easy to see why its illegal when you dont do it and see its effect on other heavy uses over a period of time. Literally a no brainer :)

Very true that I went through a stage of smoking heavily..a long time ago now..and when I couldent get any weed I used to loose my temper over the most stupidest things. It got to the stage where I was frightening the shit out of my misses and my three brothers noticed how quickly I would get irritable over the most mundane things. I am normally a very tolerant guy. Havent smoked weed now for around 10 years..lol

AntiDrama 04-14-2008 08:39 PM

To each his/her own. Its not really worth an argument one way or another (in my opinion).

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-14-2008 08:42 PM

i say the legalization of marijuana is fucking stupid. why the hell does it need to be legalized? decriminalized sure, but why would you want it to be legalized and turned into another taxed shit product?

notoldschool 04-14-2008 08:49 PM

Because we are ignoring the real problems in our society.
You dont even know if I smoke. I just hate hypocrits

BlackCrayon 04-14-2008 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14068609)
So it being illegal is obviously working, why change that and lead to more deaths?

By that logic tabacco and alcohol should be illegal too and then the government can really save us from ourselves.

BlackCrayon 04-14-2008 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14068846)
Surprised at some of the responses in this thread.

Know of 2 heavy long time users of pot, 1 being my brother. He has to have a smoke around 10-20 times a day just to remain sociable otherwise he gets violent, bad tempered, has massive mood changes etc. The other guy I know is pretty much the same. Its pretty easy to see why its illegal when you dont do it and see its effect on other heavy uses over a period of time. Literally a no brainer :)

And your brother wasn't like this before the pot? Sounds like he has some mental health issues and is self medicating. Much the same as many alcoholics.

theking 04-14-2008 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068345)
I dont think you can.

You have been given reasons...so you are wrong...now aren't you?


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