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Hollywood Horwitz 04-21-2008 05:27 PM

Blu Ray Players/Should I wait to get one?
 
I know Blu Ray has won the battle over HD DVD but are the players lacking in technology? I've been reading some reviews and most peeps are saying hold off because the players aren't up to speed yet.

Any thoughts?

CIVMatt 04-21-2008 05:28 PM

Go ahead and buy one, markets too big now for any major adjustment

Fap 04-21-2008 05:28 PM

id wait.. prices will drop hardcore soon

Smiley 04-21-2008 05:31 PM

all depends...if you watch movies, go for it.....if youre a gamer (like me)...get the PS3...its a nice addition to every other consule, pc, mac, hand held gizmo in my house.....plus if & when the technology advances and players come down in price because everyone will make one, you still have the gaming...

i waited until it was decided and then figured wtf, bought a PS3 and have enjoyed the movies out today....all of us know that the technology advances so quick it wont matter if you buy now or later...something bigger & better is always on the horizon....do what makes you happy....otherwise youll always be asking.."should i wait?"...

The Truth Hurts 04-21-2008 05:45 PM

PS3 is the best blu-ray player out anyway.. just get one of them.
Also works great for playing files off your pc...
oh.. and it plays ps3 games as well : )

GatorB 04-21-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14095147)
PS3 is the best blu-ray player out anyway.. just get one of them.
Also works great for playing files off your pc...
oh.. and it plays ps3 games as well : )

Yep and you can upgrade the firmware.

evildick 04-21-2008 06:36 PM

Definitely get the PS3. You'd think a movie player bundled in a game console would be shit, but it's actually the best option out there right now for blu-ray movies.

bronco67 04-21-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14095147)
PS3 is the best blu-ray player out anyway.. just get one of them.
Also works great for playing files off your pc...
oh.. and it plays ps3 games as well : )

I concur. I love my PS3...and I'm not even a big game player. Blu ray is so worth it, that I'll wait a month to watch a Blu Ray transfer of a movie(hard to rent sometimes). It is just a mindblowing picture quality...I ain't even even kidding.

media 04-21-2008 06:38 PM

get the ps3.. game console + blue ray player in one.. rather than pay for a player alone.. you can get a remote I believe that works on the console..

I use my xbox360 for a player for now, but will get a ps3 next .. I removed my dvd player all together from the entertainment center..

GatorB 04-21-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 14095272)
I concur. I love my PS3...and I'm not even a big game player. Blu ray is so worth it, that I'll wait a month to watch a Blu Ray transfer of a movie(hard to rent sometimes). It is just a mindblowing picture quality...I ain't even even kidding.

So you illegally download movies?

evildick 04-21-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095281)
So you illegally download movies?

Not sure how you made that assumption.

Seems to me he meant he would wait a month for the blu-ray version, rather than watching the regular DVD version, since the blu-ray versions are sometimes harder to find in rental stores.

The Truth Hurts 04-21-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095281)
So you illegally download movies?

Doesn't everybody?

GatorB 04-21-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick (Post 14095298)
Not sure how you made that assumption.

Seems to me he meant he would wait a month for the blu-ray version, rather than watching the regular DVD version, since the blu-ray versions are sometimes harder to find in rental stores.

He said bluray TRANSFER. If I'm going to buy/rent a DVD I don't say dvd TRANSFER, I just say DVD.

GatorB 04-21-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14095311)
Doesn't everybody?

No. I make more than minimum wage and I have morals.

I can't see how anyone that posts here complaining about tube sites and surfers getting too much free content then downloads movies without paying for them. Just seems hypocritical

Lensman 04-21-2008 07:02 PM

I have some HP HTPCs with Blu-Ray, works awesome. That's what to buy.

evildick 04-21-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095326)
He said bluray TRANSFER. If I'm going to buy/rent a DVD I don't say dvd TRANSFER, I just say DVD.

A lot of people use that terminology when referring to whether or not it is high-def or standard def version.

Regardless, he also mentioned RENTING, which usually doesn't come into play when talking about downloading movies.

The Truth Hurts 04-21-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095332)
No. I make more than minimum wage and I have morals.

No morals involved... just convenience.

If theres a movie up I really want to see now, and i'm gonna buy anyway in a month when it hits shelves..
I'm downloading it.

bronco67 04-21-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095281)
So you illegally download movies?

No, Netflix makes you wait a month for new Blu Rays, and Blockbuster gets like 1 copy of each movie. I've been trying to rent Alien vs Predator 2 for about a week now -- it's a crap shoot.

I don't know how you got that idea from my post.

bronco67 04-21-2008 07:41 PM

Wow, I was gone for a few minutes and there's a lynch mob after me.

I don't download movies. Even if I was the type to steal content, I wouldn't download movies, since I want the BEST possible quality, not some crappy rip.

The term transfer is referring to the diff between a regular dvd "transfer" which usually looks like shit, and a Blu ray "transfer" which utilizes the extra disc space for the best possible compression quality -- and uncompressed audio.

GatorB 04-21-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 14095445)
No, Netflix makes you wait a month for new Blu Rays, and Blockbuster gets like 1 copy of each movie. I've been trying to rent Alien vs Predator 2 for about a week now -- it's a crap shoot.

I don't know how you got that idea from my post.

I asked because you didn't make it clear.

GatorB 04-21-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14095366)
No morals involved... just convenience.

If theres a movie up I really want to see now, and i'm gonna buy anyway in a month when it hits shelves..
I'm downloading it.

So you don't mind if I steal your content then.

bronco67 04-21-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095752)
I asked because you didn't make it clear.

No offense taken, really. I don't know you. You were just a little quick to get up on that horsey..and he was a really high one too.:winkwink:

ungratefulninja 04-21-2008 11:19 PM

I built a HTPC with the HD/Blu-ray combo drive and I am happy with it. Previously I had the Toshiba A3. I gotta say the upscaling was so badass I wasn't keen on running out and buying a lot of new discs, since it made my regular DVDs look awesome.

Cash 04-22-2008 12:15 AM

Does PS3 offer 5.1 sound? I guess this is its weakness.

GatorB 04-22-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cash (Post 14096097)
Does PS3 offer 5.1 sound? I guess this is its weakness.

The latest firmware update

"Blu-ray Disc playback now supports DTS-HD Master Audio? and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio? output"

KnightMare 04-22-2008 12:38 AM

Who cares? Buy whatever the hell you want!

tiger 04-22-2008 01:29 AM

Just buy a cheapie upconverter dvd player. When blu ray is cheap within 12 months then get one.

Phil21 04-22-2008 02:09 AM

PS3 is the only player worth buying right now, as it will be upgradeable to profile 2.0

The rest, in my opinion not so much. I had a hard time swallowing the "you need a toy to play movies!" - but it truly is a great little device. Since it's the same price as the standalones, you really cannot lose with it.

Also, of course it supports 5.1 audio, right now. This is the standard dolby digital/DTS you're used to. The firmware update is for uncompressed "HD Audio" which requires a receiver that supports it over HDMI. Mine does not currently, but it's next on the upgrade list :)

Hollywood Horwitz 04-22-2008 10:54 AM

thanks for all the advice, I did some serious investigating and researching all the home theater sites, they ALL said 100% with out a doubt get the PS3, even if your not a gamer.

so today I'm buying PS3 and a surround system that supports DTS HD audio via HDMI. Next question is which one of those do I buy,LOL

GatorB 04-22-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil21 (Post 14096342)
PS3 is the only player worth buying right now, as it will be upgradeable to profile 2.0

it already is as of firmaware 2.20 released on March 25th. PS3 is up to firmware 2.30

PS3? System Software Update 2.20

BD Live support : Blu-ray Disc Profile 2.0 (BD-LIVE) is now supported.

gleem 04-22-2008 01:38 PM

I would get the PS-3 instead of a blu-ray player only if you don't care you can't get it to work properly on a universale remote, you gotta use Sony's remote... that is the only reason I'm waiting.

and now there's no competition, those fucking Blu-Ray players are going to take forever to come down in price.

even today Netflix said how it was "We are charging a premium for Blu-Ray discs because people are used to paying a premium for for high-definition content" and now there's no reason to drop the price... when they were competing for users, you could get 5 free Blue-Ray discs with a blue ray purchase, they stopped that promotion as soon as HD-DVD dropped out.

fucking sux.

Holly 04-22-2008 02:12 PM

Well, shit. I was about to buy one.

I don't even play video games. Should I still get a PS3? I guess I would always have the option. I didn't even know they could play movies.

So a PS3 and a Blu-ray player are the same price? The PS3 isn't one of those impossible to get things that you have to stand in line all night at Best Buy, is it? Because if I can't walk in somewhere in grab it off a shelf, then no way am I standing outside with every 18 year old gamer in my city. :1orglaugh

GatorB 04-22-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14098684)
Well, shit. I was about to buy one.

I don't even play video games. Should I still get a PS3? I guess I would always have the option. I didn't even know they could play movies.

Since they use blu-ray I'm not sure how you didn't know it could play blu-ray movies.

Quote:

So a PS3 and a Blu-ray player are the same price? The PS3 isn't one of those impossible to get things that you have to stand in line all night at Best Buy, is it? Because if I can't walk in somewhere in grab it off a shelf, then no way am I standing outside with every 18 year old gamer in my city. :1orglaugh
Yes you can get a PS3 easy. Just get the $400 40GB one especially since you don't play games.

BradM 04-22-2008 02:19 PM

i bought the ps3 and the hd cable thing for it. i have a 1080p or some damn tv. I dunno I bought it cause they said it was good. anyway, with the ps3 blueray, I swear I am actually IN the movie. it's fucking awesome. plus you get a game station, too.

D Ghost 04-22-2008 02:33 PM

i need a blu-ray player now

Holly 04-22-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14098701)
Since they use blu-ray I'm not sure how you didn't know it could play blu-ray movies.

Well, let's see... if I've never seen a PS3 and don't know anything about them (hence my last post) then I think it's a safe bet to assume I didn't know they use Blu-ray. The full extent of my PS3 knowledge, is opening up this thread and reading posts.

I've never played a video game in my life. Unless you count Frogger, Donkey Kong, Pitfall, Ms PacMan and Qbert, on an Atari. Which, btw, I rocked.

MichaelP 04-22-2008 03:14 PM

Playstation 3 baby! Handsdown :thumbsup

Also get that HDMI wire and you're in business :)

GatorB 04-22-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14098934)
Well, let's see... if I've never seen a PS3 and don't know anything about them (hence my last post) then I think it's a safe bet to assume I didn't know they use Blu-ray. The full extent of my PS3 knowledge, is opening up this thread and reading posts.

I've never played a video game in my life. Unless you count Frogger, Donkey Kong, Pitfall, Ms PacMan and Qbert, on an Atari. Which, btw, I rocked.

Sorry I didn't see that you were a chick. Anyways yes I played all those "old school" games too. Child of the 70's and 80's you know.

GatorB 04-22-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelP (Post 14098953)
Playstation 3 baby! Handsdown :thumbsup

Also get that HDMI wire and you're in business :)


Do NOT waste money on Monster brand cables. overpriced. All HDMI cables are all the same. Luckily my local wal-mart had the PS3 HDMI cables that were $40 on clearance for $4.50. Hard to pass on that.

The Truth Hurts 04-22-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14095755)
So you don't mind if I steal your content then.

Only if you're gonna buy it in a month.
"Steal" is/should be the wrong turn..
If movie studios would release DVDs on the same day the movies go into fucking dumpy filthy movie theaters full of inconsiderate fucking pricks wearing enough perfume/cologne to make the entire country of france smell pretty, yapping on their fucking cell phones, opening up their candy wrappers, tapping their feet like they were in a drumline, and letting their fucking kids run around for two hours like its their own personal gymnasium... I wouldn't have to download their movies.

The Truth Hurts 04-22-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14099210)
Do NOT waste money on Monster brand cables. overpriced. All HDMI cables are all the same. Luckily my local wal-mart had the PS3 HDMI cables that were $40 on clearance for $4.50. Hard to pass on that.


Exactly.. I've been using $3.99 HDMI cables from NEWEGG flawlessly for years..

Monster is a marketing gimmick for idiots with money to burn.

GatorB 04-22-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14099228)
Only if you're gonna buy it in a month.
"Steal" is/should be the wrong turn..
If movie studios would release DVDs on the same day the movies go into fucking dumpy filthy movie theaters full of inconsiderate fucking pricks wearing enough perfume/cologne to make the entire country of france smell pretty, yapping on their fucking cell phones, opening up their candy wrappers, tapping their feet like they were in a drumline, and letting their fucking kids run around for two hours like its their own personal gymnasium... I wouldn't have to download their movies.

You can wait. Still doesn't justify stealing. And the studios don't own the theaters.

ark 123 04-22-2008 06:37 PM

blu-ray: wait or purchase now
 
i sell them.

wait until winter.

most of the BR players out this summer still won't uniformly have complete compatibility and internet functionality.

The Truth Hurts 04-22-2008 06:38 PM

Nope... can't wait... and shouldn't have to...
and they may not own the theaters, but the do have a hand in distribution.
theres no reason to not do simultaneous theatrical/dvd/on demand releases.

and for the record.. i've downloaded hundreds of pre-release movies... and later bought every one.. i don't sell the downloads, i don't share the downloads... i either watch them, or i dont.. then either delete the files or toss the dics..
so don't think of it so much as stealing.. but more along the lines of a taking a fully functional trial period.. offered by so many software companies.

ark 123 04-22-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14099234)
Monster is a marketing gimmick for idiots with money to burn.

that is mostly true. monster success is largely due to marketing, but doesn't only target idiots with deep pockets.

also, be wary of deep discount cables.

sometimes they are HDMI category 1, hence the price. (and no, i don't mean HDMI 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3).

HDMI category 2 is the type of cable consumers should be looking/asking for.

GetSCORECash 04-22-2008 06:46 PM

Get the PS3, instead of BR player.


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