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Socks 04-23-2008 04:02 PM

What's the best way to make money on higher oil prices going forward?
 
I'm pretty sure the gas prices are changing from what it costs to produce etc, to what the market will bear. It's a whole new ballgame of rich vs poor, and a massive anal cleanse. They want people to stop using so much gas, the gas has like tripled in price last decade, and is accelerating like nuts. But - everyone is still driving. :)

The market has proven, imho, that they're willing to pay more, and people losing their entertainment driving is just great for everyone but the people affected.

So, what's the best way to make money while these prices skyrocket? Just buy stocks in gas companies or is there a better way to invest?

WiredGuy 04-23-2008 04:03 PM

Mutual funds and stocks of oil companies.
WG

woj 04-23-2008 04:13 PM

futures options, if you end up being right, you could make ton of $$ rather quick...

Will Black 04-23-2008 04:13 PM

Invest in wind and solar.

dready 04-23-2008 04:25 PM

Don't invest in the oil.. invest in oil supply companies. The ones that build the rigs, pipelines, and other equipment. As reserves dwindle, more and more wells need to be drilled to try to keep the supply going.

ADL Colin 04-23-2008 04:38 PM

I've been long oil and gas companies for a while. Getting ready to pair my positions back a bit though. Oil just missed $120 this week and though it might go higher it is pretty difficult to bet on that. I would look for individual oil and gas companies that appear to be undervalued based on their reserves. Gazprom and Lukoil are interesting since they seem to be priced well based on their reserves but there is probably a risk penalty associated with their being Russian companies.

Learn everything you can about energy companies. Read as many SEC annual reports as you can. Learn about crack spreads (refining margins) and what % of revenues for various companies typically come from refining. Oil is selling at a fantastic price right now but gas at the pump isn't high compared to the normal ratio so refiners are getting hurt. Also the higher the oil prices are the more companies want to drill so the cost of renting drilling equipment goes up squeezing profits some. There are just so many things to understand so do so.

Oil and Gas Journal is worth the subscription. Buy the book "Twilight in the Desert". Whether you agree or not with the premise you should understand the thesis. Also Boone Pickens book is pretty decent and he has a new one coming out. There's an old book by Kurt Wolff that you can still find that is very good as he details how to value oil and gas companies by discounting their reserves over a number of years. I think it is a late 80s book or something like that but still some good insights.

SomeCreep 04-23-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14104146)
So, what's the best way to make money while these prices skyrocket? Just buy stocks in gas companies or is there a better way to invest?

Stay out of the oil market, unless you're a professional investor and really know what you're doing. Oil is a bubble and when it pops, oil prices will pull back hard along with stock prices. Is there more upside to be had from current levels? Yes, but no one knows for how long. There are plenty of economic indicators which point to oil being a bubble. Explain all of them in detail, I will not.

However, take into account that oil prices have been skyrocketing along with alternative energy "solar" stocks. The fact that both are going up in parallel is contradictory. Either oil is a bubble, solar is a bubble, or both.

SomeCreep 04-23-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dready (Post 14104215)
Don't invest in the oil.. invest in oil supply companies. The ones that build the rigs, pipelines, and other equipment. As reserves dwindle, more and more wells need to be drilled to try to keep the supply going.

That's good advice, except that all of the oil suppliers and drillers are already up huge in the last 6 months. Especially, Transocean (Ticker symbol: RIG). Sheeesh, up nearly 100% in 12 months.


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