The Armenian Genocide
 

The Armenian Genocide also known as the Armenian Holocaust, the Armenian Massacres and, by Armenians, the Great Calamity.

THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE - During WWI, The Young Turk political faction of the Ottoman Empire sought the creation of a new Turkish state extending into Central Asia. Those promoting the ideology called "Pan Turkism" (creating a homogenous Turkish state) now saw its Armenian minority population as an obstacle to the realization of that goal.

On April 24, 1915, several hundred Armenian community leaders and intellectuals in Constantinople (modern day Istanbul) were arrested, sent east, and put to death. In May, after mass deportations had already begun, Minister of the Interior Talaat Pasha, claiming that Armenians could offer aid and comfort to the enemy and were in a state of imminent rebellion, ordered their deportation into the Syrian desert.

The adult and teenage males were separated from the deportation caravans and killed under the direction of Young Turk functionaries. Women and children were driven for months over mountains and desert, often raped, tortured, and mutilated. Deprived of food and water and often stripped of clothing, they fell by the hundreds of thousands along the routes to the desert. Ultimately, more than half the Armenian population, 1,500,000 people were annihilated. In this manner the Armenian people were eliminated from their homeland of several millennia


Here are some good links to read and get information:

http://www.teachgenocide.org/background/history.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

http://www.genocide1915.info/

http://www.anca.org/genocide_resource/index.php

Noone cares, go away

Um, yes they do.

I have tons of Armenian friends. I watch the coverage and stories on the educational channels like History Channel and A&E every year to remind me how cold and fucked up the world can be in "civilized" times.

That shit was fucked up. Armenians and their friends and families will never let the world forget that someone tried to snuff them out for their own benefit.

Fuck That.

People DO care.


:mad:

umm genocides happen all the time.

The acadians were put through hundreds of years of persecution, including forced to not speak their language, mass deportation and even killings.

The chinese in Northern California,... the native Americans numerous times...

maybe geo target this thread to Glendale LOL

Thank you Airek for the support.

That is what happens when you don't fight.

Sure, you might die. But at least you faught...

Armenians have been fighting everyday for years and years its not only one day of the year we bring this up.

I know, I used to see families having to paint over the Armenian gang graffitti from our alley walls when we lived in the SF Valley.

Armenians were always fighting, they used to tag different cali armenian gang locales and shit.... come from glendale and tag their glendale shit as a fuck you to SFV etc...

maybe you get those guys to fight for you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Power

u go first....fool :321GFY

Did you need attention? Is this why your in this tread?

Its sad, but that was the past. Luckily the Arminian people have a counrty to defend them from future genocides

You are off topic, every nationality has gangs and organized crime groups.

Whats your point??

"Faced with pressure from Hispanic gang members in the area, young Armenians in East Hollywood grouped together to form Armenian Power."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Power

How about the poor Canaanites? Wiped the fuck out

same reason the Aryan brotherhood got started. protection. in their case it was protection against the blacks. -bmb

not to dismiss in anyway this issue ..I would just like to bring up another similar much more recent "genocide" that actually made me sick to my stomach for days upon hearing about it happening in 1994 was the Rwanda incident and the genocide of the Tootsi by the Hutu tribes ..some 850,000 deaths with out any intervention by the US military because as stated but the government that they had no financial interest in the country so it would be a pointless waste of money

It wasn't a genocide. Now get over it.

Yay Armenia!!

31 MARCH-THE DAY OF GENOCIDE OF AZERBAIJANIS


According to the decree of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan of 26 March 1998, every year on 31 March Azerbaijan commemorates the Day of Genocide of Azerbaijanis.

This year the people of Azerbaijan once again pay their respect to victims of massacres and ethnic cleansing conducted as a result of imperial policies in the region and waves of Armenian aggression.

The dismemberment of the Azerbaijani people and the division of the historical lands of Azerbaijan began with the Treaties of Gyulistan and Turkmanchai, signed in 1813 and 1828. The national tragedy of the Azerbaijani people continued with occupation of their lands. As the result of implementation of this policy, a very rapid mass resettlement of Armenians in Azerbaijani lands took place. The policy of genocide became an integral part of the occupation of Azerbaijani lands.

Inspired by dreams of creating a ?Greater Armenia?, Armenians, not even concealing their intentions, carried out a series of large-scale bloody actions against Azerbaijanis between 1905 and 1907. Hundreds of settlements were destroyed and razed to the ground; the thousands of Azerbaijanis were barbarically killed.

Taking advantage of the situation followed the World War I and the February and October 1917 Revolution in Russia, Armenians began to pursue the implementation of their plans under the banner of Bolshevism. Under the watchword of combating counter-revolutionary elements, in March 1918 the Baku Commune began to implement a criminal plan aimed at eliminating Azerbaijanis from the whole of Baku Province. The crimes perpetrated by Armenians in those days have imprinted themselves forever in the memory of the Azerbaijani people. Solely because of their ethnic affiliation, thousands of peaceful Azerbaijanis were annihilated. The Armenians set fire to homes and burned people alive. They destroyed national architectural treasures, schools, hospitals, mosques and other facilities, and left the greater part of Baku in ruins.

The genocide of the Azerbaijanis was carried out with particular cruelty in Baku, Shemakha and Guba districts and the Karabakh, Zangazur, Nakhichevan, Lankaran and other regions of Azerbaijan. In these areas, the civilian population was exterminated, with villages put to the torch and national cultural monuments ruined and destroyed.

After the proclamation of the Azerbaijani Democratic Republic, the events of March 1918 were at the center of attention. In 1919 and 1920 the Azerbaijani Democratic Republic observed 31 March as a national day of mourning. This was in fact his first attempt to give a political assessment of the policy of genocide against Azerbaijanis. However, the demise of the Azerbaijani Democratic Republic left this work unfinished.

In 1920, taking advantage of the sovetization of Transcaucasia for heir own vile purposes, the Armenians declared Zangazur and the number of Azerbaijani districts as a territory of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic.
On 23 December 1947 the Armenians secured the adoption of a special decision by the Council of Ministers of the USSR on the resettlement of Azerbaijanis from Armenian SSR to the Azerbaijani SSR, and between 1948 and 1953 they were able to have mass deportation of Azerbaijanis from their historical lands conducted at the State level.
Beginning in the 1950th the Armenian nationalists, with the help of their protectors, initiated a flagrant campaign of intellectual aggression against the Azerbaijani people. In books, magazines and newspapers they sought to prove that the most treasured masterpieces of the national culture of the Azerbaijanis, their classical heritage and architectural monuments belonged to the Armenians.
Hundreds of Azerbaijanis were driven from the city of Erevan and other districts of the Armenian SSR. Armenians grossly violated the rights of Azerbaijanis, made it difficult for them to be educated in their mother tongue, and pursued a policy of repression. The historical names of Azerbaijani villages were changed; old toponyms were replaced with modern names on a scale unprecedented in the history of toponymy.

The new territorial claims of Armenia towards Azerbaijan instigated by the leadership of USSR, at the end of 80s of the last century resulted in a large-scale war, occupation of 20 percent of territories of the Republic of Azerbaijan by the Armenian military units, and becoming refugees and internally displaced persons of about one million of Azerbaijanis.

In 1988 the remaining 200,000 Azerbaijanis were forcibly deported from their historical homelands within the present-day Armenian State. Killing and maiming accompanied the mass expulsion: 216 Azerbaijanis were killed during the ethnic cleansing in 1988-1989.


In February 1992, the Armenians committed unprecedented massacre of the population of the Azerbaijani town of Khojaly. The bloody tragedy, which became known as the Khojaly Genocide, resulted in extermination or capture of thousands of Azerbaijanis; the town was razed to the ground. That tragic action by its scale and features is in full conformity with the notion of genocide defined by provisions set forth in the Convention ?On Prevention and Punishment of Crime of Genocide? adopted by the UN General Assembly resolution 260 {III} dated December 9,1948.

All of Azerbaijan?s tragedies that took place in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were accompanied by the seizure of lands constituted various stages in the Armenia?s deliberate and systematic policy of genocide against Azerbaijanis.

In contrast to the aggressive Armenian nationalists who unceasingly declare to the world about the pseudo-genocide and use it for the purpose of getting political-financial dividends and to achieve some ?compensations? Azerbaijan does not follow such kind of aims informing the world about truth of the genocide of Azerbaijanis. We consider that in the modern world territorial claims against another state, ideology of hate against the whole nations, attempts to solve the arguable issues between the states and peoples by military means are inadmissible. At the same time, the whole world should know the truth about the real genocide.

Addressing the nation on the occasion of the Day of Genocide of Azerbaijanis, President İlham Aliyev stated, ?I am convinced that thanks to the patriotism and good organization of our citizens, and the purposeful activities and political will of the leadership of Azerbaijan, we will achieve solution to all the problems we are facing, including restoration of the territorial integrity and sovereignty, as well as exposure of those who carried out the policy of real genocide against our people, and whose ideology is hostility and hatred towards other nations...?

Armenian Genocide
 

I am an ARMENIAN and PLENTY OF PEOPLE CARE !!! My Grandfather's whole family was exterminated in Turkey. THIS IS NOT "GOING AWAY" Thanks Dave for spreading the truth. ICQ me when you can

I stand with Dave
 

I got you Dave, you can't expect americans of only average intelligence to understand the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. Most have only just heard of the "holocaust". It should be recognized in this country as a GENOCIDE. Unfortunately, due to the military and economic ties the US has with turkey, it will probably not be approved in the senate. At least, not in our lifetime.

Ronin.
 

thx for backin up the armos !

How was it not a Genocide?

Was that not what they tried to do? Were the Armenians not pushed into the outer deserts to be systematically wiped out? Were they not a national/cultural group?

If you don't have something educated to say, don't bother saying it.


These people were all victims; women, children, scholars... the list goes on and on.

Thx for sharing and yes we all care

something educated to say
 

An educated person...that's what I like to see, educated conversation. Thank You for your insight.. As an American Armenian I thank you.

It's unfortunate that it happened

As an Armenian, you're welcome.

^bump^ for awareness

"karma"
 

Have you ever known or done business with a "typical" Armenian that has systematically tried to wipe out your culture or ethnicity? If so, then karma IS a bitch. Wow, that's some rationale! So, let me understand you correctly, being a schrewd business man can somehow justify mass killings? I don't think that can be called karma! Its called GENOCIDE

Sorry Bert, ofcourse I care but I don't wanna read about it. Geneocides have been happening for thousands of years, get over it. I also have a friend who is Armenian, who gives a fuck. If someone posted about the Holocaust I'd post that I don't care just the same. This is an adult webmaster board and I don't wanna read about the fucking Armenian Genocide. Get over it.

Well done, you have recieved the comeback of the century award. You should be proud.

We're all aware that genocides have happened numerous times (and continue to happen right now). The point is that Armenians seek recognition for the genocides that was committed on them.

Great. Well, my heart is with the people affected, but they just need to get over it. The issue just doesn't concern me and I'm not sure why it should concern anyone. What's done is done and you can't change that, and I don't see why people should apologies for things their ancenstors did, and even if they do what value it holds.

Thank you, but once again you fail to understand the concept. The problem is that the Armenians want recognition of it being a GENOCIDE.

I think its completely wrong and ignorant to hold a grudge against the country today, after all, it was the earlier Ottoman Turks who committed the acts, not the government they house today.

Think of it as the Jews never gaining recognition of the Holocaust. Pretty much the same concept.

Agreed 100%

I grew up in Fresno California which is probably only second to glendale in Armenian population(making me an honorary BRRRRO!)...The genocide was very real and its a shame that there isnt more remembrance or sympathy......:(

you're the one who clicked the thread. it was clear in the title what it was about. you intended to kick dirt into a subject to look like a hot shit.

not cool. don't click the thread next time since you don't care.

:321GFY

I am honorary Armo

And we call oursevles civilised human beings..more like uncivilised animals :2 cents:

American has been fucking the piece of world for quite a while now .. and it happened many many fucking times.

Here is relatively shorter list of American wars.

http://i28.tinypic.com/21d39qx.png
Source: US Wars



Here is a better, detailed and interactive version, with brief description of each war.


http://i25.tinypic.com/24paxwn.jpg

163 ?? :eek2 :eek2 .. yes, ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FUCKING THREE ..!!!




yeah, Hitler was bad .. :pimp

It was a terrible Genocide.. learned about it and others in a 'History of Genocide' class at ASU. :(

more like 164...
They seem to have left Afghanistan out :upsidedow

funny how no one commented on this...guess there arnt any pro Azerbaijanis on this board

thats because the western world doesnt care when Africans kill other Africans...apparantly what happens in Africa stays in Africa.

well.... lets all educate ourselves, shall we?

i mean... there is this genuine concern about "the truth" and "acknowledgment" of atrocities and genocide and the "victims" right??

at least thats what everyone is saying anyway....


ABOUT THE AZERI GENOCIDE

After the Republic of Azerbaijan regained its independence, it has become possible to renew the objective picture of the past history of our nation. The truth which for many years was kept back, is getting disclosed and misinterpreted events are getting their real value.

Numerous acts of genocide against Azeri, which for many years did not receive its deserved political and legal assessment, is one of the secret pages of our history.

The Gulustan and Turkmenchay agreements signed in 1813 and 1828 provided the legal ground for the partition of the nation of Azerbaijan and division of its historical lands. The occupation of the lands continued the national tragedy of Azerbaijan people. Within a short time, gross settlement of Armenians in the territories of Azerbaijan has begun. The occupation of Azeri territories became an integral part of the genocide.

Armenians moved to Yerevan, Nakhchivan and Karabakh khanates have achieved to establish their administrative territorial unit of Armenian region despite their minority as compared to Azeris residing in the same area. This artificial division provided political reasons for the removal and annihilation of Azeris in their native lands. This was followed by propaganda of the establishment of the Great Armenia. In order to ensure the exculpation of the idea to establish this fictitious state in the territory of Azerbaijan, a wide-scale programme, aimed at the falsification of the national history of Armenians, was started. The distortion of the history of Azerbaijan and the whole Caucasus, formed an integral part of this programme.

Inspired by the idea of the establishment of the Great Armenia, Armenian invaders started to openly implement on a wide scale their evil actions against the nation of Azerbaijan during 1905-1907. Armenians started their brutal acts in Baku and further spread them through the rest of Azerbaijan and Azeri villages in the current territory of Armenia. Hundreds of settlements were razed to the ground and thousands of people were savagely killed. The organizers of these events were creating an unfavorable image about the people of Azerbaijan to hide the truth and prevent these events from a correct political and legal evaluation.

They got use of the World War I, Russian revolutions in February and October of 1917, and managed to accomplish their ideas under the plea of the Bolshevism. The implementation of a cruel plan of cleansing the population of Azerbaijan in the provinces started by the Baku commune under the plea of fighting against counter-revolutionary elements in March of 1918. Armenian crimes have secured themselves an everlasting place in the memory of Azeri people. Thousands of Azeri civilians, were murdered for the only reason of their belonging to the nation of Azerbaijan. Armenians destroyed dwelling houses and burnt people alive. Most of Baku was turned into ruins with national architectural sights, schools, hospitals, mosques and other monuments destroyed.

Azeri genocide was particularly cruel in Baku, Shamakha, Guba, Karabakh, Zangezur, Nakhchivan, Lenkaran and other regions. Many civilians in those areas were killed, the villages were brought to ashes and national monuments were razed to the ground.

After the establishment of the Azerbaijan National Republic, closest attention was paid to the March 1918 events. The Council of Ministers issued a decree on July 15th 1918, to establish an extraordinary committee for the investigation of those tragic events. The committee investigated the first stage of the March genocide; the brutal acts in Shemakha and the cruel crimes in the territory of Yerevan province. A special department was established under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to notify the community about the truth. The Azerbaijan National Republic declared March 31st as a mourning day for two times - in 1919 and 1920. It was the first attempt in the history to give a political assessment to genocide against the people of Azerbaijan and to the aggressive process which continued for over a century. But the collapse of the Azerbaijan National Republic did not allow to finish this process.

In 1920, Armenians got use of the coming of the Soviet power into the South Caucasus, and declared the annexation of Zangezur and other regions of Azerbaijan to the Armenian Soviet Republic. They later started to utilize newer means to strengthen their policy, aimed at the deportation of Azeri people from these territories. For this purpose, they got use of the 23 December 1947 decree of the Soviet Council of Ministers "On removal of collective farmers and other Azeri population from the Armenian Soviet Republic to the Kura-Araz lowlands of the Azerbaijan Soviet Republic". During 1948-1953, they finally achieved the purpose of mass deportation of Azeri people from their historical land, at the state level.

At the beginning of the 50th Armenians nationalists with the help of their defenders began to conduct a cruel aggressive campaign against the nation of Azerbaijan. In regular published books, magazines and newspapers in the territory of the former Soviet Union there were made the attempts to prove the belonging of our national culture, classic heritage and architectural monuments to Armenians. At the same time they strengthened their efforts to create a negative image about Azeri people worldwide. In order to create the image of "a long-suffering oppressed Armenia nation" they deliberately distorted the events which took part in this region in the beginning of the century. They called themselves the victims of the genocide, which they in reality conducted against Azeri people. Persecution of our compatriots in the territory of Yerevan, where the main population were Azeris and from the other parts of Armenia SSR led to their mass proscription. Armenians roughly violated the rights of Azeri people, created the obstacles to get the education in native language and exerted a strong pressure ipon them. The historical names of Azeri villages were changed within a previously unforeseen process in the history of toponymy, when ancient names were replaced with the modern ones.

The trumped-up Armenian history was raised at the state political level in order to bring up younger generations of Armenians in the spirit of chauvinism. Brought up in the manner of Azeri literature and culture, which served to great humanism ideals, the young generation of Azeris stayed helpless before Armenia's extremist ideology.

The claims against the Azeri national spirit, honor and dignity, created an ideological platform for the political and military aggression. The Azeri genocide, which was not given a correct political and legal evaluation, led to distortion of historical facts in the Soviet media and misleading of the communities by Armenians. The leadership of Azerbaijan did not pay the sufficient attention to anti-Azeri propaganda, which raised and intensified among the soviet regime in mid-80s.

The deportation of hundreds of thousands of Azeris from their historical lands at the first stage of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict in 1988, also did not receive a correct political assessment in Azerbaijan. The autonomous republic of Nagorno Karabakh was taken from Azerbaijan's control and annexed to the Armenian SSR at the basis of an unconstitutional decree of Armenian Republic and under assistance of the Moscow-led Special Administration Committee. This fact caused a serious dissatisfaction among the nation of Azerbaijan and forced it to begin important political activities. Even though the aggressive policy aimed at the occupation of the territories of Azerbaijan, was strongly criticized at numerous rallies held in Azerbaijan, the political leadership still did not give up its passive and contemplative position. In January of 1990, Soviet troops were brought to Baku in order to prevent further development of the national liberation movement. Hundreds of Azeri people were killed and injured, as the result.

In February of 1992, Armenians accomplished unforeseen brutalities among the population of Khojaly. The Khojali Genocide saw thousands of Azeri people murdered and taken prisoners of war. The whole city was razed to the ground.

The adventurous policy of Armenian nationalists and separatists in Nagorno Karabakh, forced from their homelands over one million of Azeri nationals, who now have to live in tent camps.

The tragedies which took place in Azerbaijan in the XIX-XX centuries and resulted in occupation of Azeri lands, formed the consecutive stages of Armenia's purposeful policy against the Azeri people. Efforts were made to give a political assessment to only one of those events - the March 1918 massacre. The successor of the Azerbaijan National Republic - the Republic of Azerbaijan - considers it a historical duty to ensure a logical continuation to unfulfilled political decrees and political evaluation to the genocide.

Interesting read, unfortunately the majority of the people on this board have the attention span of a gnat and will be looking for the "would you hit it" threads

I always feel a certain kinship with Armenian's
I think most of us Jews all know a thing or two about genocide.

We should never forget these atrocisties.





SAVE DARFUR!

o'yeah! .. I did noticed that but forgot to mention. Thanks.

bump for 164 .. :winkwink:

hey .. does bombing on Pakistan's Northern area with the help of Pakistan Army counts? .. lol

165 .. !!

idiot....

fiddy war lovers .. :winkwink:

bump for 2009