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boneprone 05-14-2008 03:07 AM

Anyone here watch the HBO MOVIE "Hacking Democracy" Diebold Voting Systems? FUCK!
 
I finally watched it. Pretty disturbing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76866669054201

Very disturbing. Has anyone else seen it?

boneprone 05-14-2008 03:07 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76866669054201

Paul Markham 05-14-2008 04:46 AM

About as fucking scary as it gets.

12clicks 05-14-2008 04:56 AM

another grand conspiracy.


Boo!

StuartD 05-14-2008 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 14187598)
another grand conspiracy.


Boo!

They all are unless they say what you want to hear, right? :winkwink:

Paul Markham 05-14-2008 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 14187598)
another grand conspiracy.


Boo!

You work on the Internet, using computers. You know how easy it is to hack and tamper with programs and you made a stupid statement like that.

You are the weakest link.

GrouchyAdmin 05-14-2008 05:51 AM

JEWS DID WTC!

boneprone 05-14-2008 08:33 AM

Not saying there is any Conspiracy.


But its very disturbing to see Diebolds major security flaws in the Voting system. THe hacks and these people were able to do was very disturbing.

Republicans and Democrats in many states have raised questions and probed inquiry.

If anyone is to blame its that spineless John Kerry for not doing what he said he would with his probes.

boneprone 05-14-2008 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 14187785)
JEWS DID WTC!

Stupid statements like this is what keeps real issues from being looked at.

Anyone who questions serious issues is looked at as one of the nuts who belives shit like this.

The Diebold issues are facts. Stupid "theories" like the one you posted are just that. Stupid..

Tom_PM 05-14-2008 08:37 AM

All I know is if someone claims they "can't" make those machines give you a receipt, it's just an outright lie. A gas pump gives me a receipt. A voting machine doesnt? Not using it.

boneprone 05-14-2008 08:41 AM

12 clicks knows just as well as I do how easy an exe or how possible it is to exploit a system.

Ive made money doing it, or let me rephrase, Ive known friends who for many years have made profits off secure companies like Microsoft browsers and such "secure" bullshit systems like sp2 holes.

The public and consumer outrage helped kill off the exploit biz..

The public and consumer outrage has yet to become aware of the holes in the Diebold system.

StuartD 05-14-2008 08:42 AM

It's retarded to not question something so important for fear that it "might cast doubts". You don't want to cast doubts? Then investigate it to make certain that it's 100% accurate!

And the closed minded "it's all a conspiracy" idiots would rather just have faith in the greedy power hungry, do anything to get elected, politicians than to actually ever question something that is actually truly important to know.

It's easier to dismiss than to think for yourself.

boneprone 05-14-2008 08:47 AM

When I talk to people outside the biz about companies like Zango, toolbars, exploits, etc they look at me like im fucking crazy.... Like im some consipracy nut....

They look at me like, "yeah right" like something that steals your money could really exist out there. They dont take me serious.

ITs a similar dynamic for this group looking into diebold. They have facts, data, and proof. Yet people dont really care.

They dont want to hear about serious issues of anykind really... Ive seen this first hand.

Im mean give the sheep American Idol and they are happy.

MichaelP 05-14-2008 08:53 AM

Yep. Pretty Scary to say the least :(

uno 05-14-2008 09:09 AM

I have it DVR'ed.

tony286 05-14-2008 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 14188367)
12 clicks knows just as well as I do how easy an exe or how possible it is to exploit a system.

Ive made money doing it, or let me rephrase, Ive known friends who for many years have made profits off secure companies like Microsoft browsers and such "secure" bullshit systems like sp2 holes.

The public and consumer outrage helped kill off the exploit biz..

The public and consumer outrage has yet to become aware of the holes in the Diebold system.

The you dont have outrage is because you have over 40hrs a week of right wing pundits,calling it sour grapes,a liberal conspiracy. People forget they arent news men they are entertainers.

Bdiddy 05-14-2008 09:11 AM

I'm all for paper ballots

boneprone 05-14-2008 09:15 AM

Nothing wrong with using technology...
There just needs to be a better auditing and accountabilty systems in place.

To see them deny deny deny and deny issues on security only to later proven wrong time and time again is concerning.

Using machines for voting is a good thing. But the lack of auditing and accountabilty needs to be addressed.

SoloGirlsContent 05-14-2008 02:30 PM

wow that really fucking sux..I just hope the hackers want OBAMA in 08

boneprone 05-14-2008 03:35 PM

I really hope any hackers out there will try to prove a point and make a Green party person win in a particular state or County.

That would be too funny, and would really prove the point.

tiger 05-14-2008 03:39 PM

It's an amazing movie. It's sad no one seems to care. Both sides should want it fixed.

Ethersync 05-14-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 14187598)
another grand conspiracy.


Boo!

You are one ignorant fuck.

StuartD 05-14-2008 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 14190362)
It's an amazing movie. It's sad no one seems to care. Both sides should want it fixed.

I think one side did "fix" it.

Phoenix 05-14-2008 07:30 PM

how come i dont get dragged into the conspiracy threads anymore?

lol

i been jumping up and down about diebold and their bush buddies for years

no paper trail..fuck me...please point me in the direction that i can do anything with no paper trail

SoloGirlsContent 05-14-2008 07:36 PM

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...Stud/Obama.jpg

qxm 05-14-2008 08:04 PM

I think I've seen a movie with a similar message starring Robin Williams

12clicks 05-18-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 14191070)
You are one ignorant fuck.

I can't hear you. Please yell it in my ear next time you're handing me my fries.

fisheyecore 05-19-2008 08:35 AM

havent seen it

Snake Doctor 05-19-2008 08:56 AM

Yeah that was quite a program.

Of course just like a Michael Moore documentary, they won't concede a single point that would help the other side even if it's patently obvious....so you have to take it with a grain of salt and research the issue yourself if you want to come to an unbiased conclusion.

That being said, it definitely reinforces my belief that we need to have a paper record of every vote that we can go back to in case of a challenge or a malfunction or anything like that.


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