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Paul Markham 05-21-2008 03:26 AM

20 year old porn video and still good enough? (VIDEO)
 
Just got this from the editor. It's of a girl I was shooting in 1988 and she had a way of talking to the camera that I wish I could find today. Sort of teasing and naughty without being slutty and totally real. This was coming out of her head, she talked like this when she made love. Or so she told me. :winkwink:

Dirty talking teen.

http://www.astral-blue.com/girls/dirtytalkingteen.jpg

Forget about the quality of the video and listen to the way she talks to you. She does it for 28 minutes in this scene.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-21-2008 03:36 AM

I sure hope you're joking, because that pretty much sucked practically every which way...

:eek2 :uhoh :ugone2far

ADG

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14215776)
I sure hope you're joking, because that pretty much sucked practically every which way...

:eek2 :uhoh :ugone2far

No deadly serious. Because you don't see it, does not mean it's not there.

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 04:04 AM

http://www.astral-blue.com/girls/fleur_001.jpg

http://www.astral-blue.com/girls/fleur_002.jpg

http://www.astral-blue.com/girls/fleur_003.jpg

If you like ebony girls, ebony porn, ebony sex, ebony lesbians and ebony pussy let me introduce you to ebony teen Fleur. Stunningly good looking, sexy and ebony wrapped up in one girl. She also has a way of describing sex that will blow you away.

Fleur beautiful Ebony teen who had a way with words.

OK the quality of the video is not up to todays standards. But the girl is, in my humble opinion, the way Fleur talks to you while she's having fun is so horny. There's a part in the middle where she tells us how to lick her shaven pussy that is just one of the horniest things I've heard. She's rubbing her clitoris while she's telling us and that blows my mind.

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 07:37 PM

Time for a bump.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-21-2008 07:41 PM

I dunno, I'm not really seeing it either. I think it's more her accent than anything else.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-21-2008 07:41 PM

The still photos look good... :thumbsup

ADG

shahab6 05-21-2008 08:08 PM

The first girl is so ugly

F-U-Jimmy 05-21-2008 08:12 PM

She sounds like princess Diane

Iron Fist 05-21-2008 08:17 PM

Interesting :)

Fat Panda 05-21-2008 08:23 PM

she was terrible...but she gave me a boner

SlammedMedia 05-21-2008 09:11 PM

unless you hadn't be laid in 20 years it would be annoying having her talk to you like that. I'd have to ask her to either stop talking or leave so I could jerk off.

Vexes 05-21-2008 09:13 PM

She looks retarded.

BV 05-21-2008 09:30 PM

That was some dumb shit.
What's even more surprising is that after 20 years of shooting you still suck.

Thank god for majic join links!

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slammed Network (Post 14220653)
unless you hadn't be laid in 20 years it would be annoying having her talk to you like that. I'd have to ask her to either stop talking or leave so I could jerk off.

Spot on. This is content for guys who turned on to porn and jerking off 20 years ago. They don't always get aroused by the same thing todays 20 year olds do. They like a more subtle approach, they want to be reminded of what first aroused them.

The good thing is you can't go back in time and produce this content and you can't mass produce it like practically every other site on the Net. The demand is very very low, the supply even lower. Beauty of vintage porn or classic porn is it can't be shot today.

I can understand how you would not like her talking to you while you made love to her. You would not last 2 minutes. :winkwink:

The beauty of this content is it's all about the girls talking to the camera.

Not as hairy as some, but hairier than todays teens.

Hairy pussy teen video.

Now tell me you can't sell unshaven teens. LOL

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14220698)
That was some dumb shit.
What's even more surprising is that after 20 years of shooting you still suck.

Thank god for majic join links!

Not as dumb as nasty solo girls. I suppose if you're selling meat it works. Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

Try selling who the girl is rather than what she is and you might not have such dumb shit.

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 10:11 PM

I think this clip shows just how crazy Samantha Johnson was. She loved the massager.

Samantha Johnson porn video.

Crazy and Scottish.

Seriously this content is about who the girl is and does not treat her as a piece of meat, it shows their personality and not shot to a formula. I looked at two sample videos on the site of another sponsor posting here and both were the same. Both shot to the same formula and neither were about the girl. Great if a member wants 30 days of the same videos with only meat changing. Different chicken but still chicken and still tastes the same.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-21-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14220791)
Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

You picked up any hint of personality from that girl's performance? It's like she was reading it straight off phonesex flashcards...

Kudles 05-21-2008 10:38 PM

Sorry but not that hot.

Paul Markham 05-21-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 14220873)
You picked up any hint of personality from that girl's performance? It's like she was reading it straight off phonesex flashcards...

Another flame from someone not thinking. Some girl saying what's on a phone sex flashcard. How bad is that? :winkwink:

It's coming from her imagination, look at what the other girls are saying and how they say it. See that what the girls are saying is coming out of their heads. But I do understand how hard it is to get a girl to be herself while she's stripping and masturbating in front of someone hold a camera. Many of todays models seem to be acting out the same scene and have a cloned personality. Most pornographers complain that todays girls are too plastic.

This content will not appeal much to 20 year olds, it's not aimed at them. It's for 40 year old surfers who have not mastered Torrents. :winkwink:

Like the porn stars from 20 years ago.

Misty McKain solo girl porn video.

http://www.astral-blue.com/girls/mistymckainvideo.jpg

The content is about the girls talking while they masturbate and the mix of styles and personalities. I prefer the more natural ones, the amateurs. LOL

BV 05-22-2008 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14220791)
Not as dumb as nasty solo girls. I suppose if you're selling meat it works. Would never expect you to understand that some porn buyers want the personality of the girl over the flesh.

Try selling who the girl is rather than what she is and you might not have such dumb shit.


This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

BV 05-22-2008 01:15 AM

Let me add those are 29.95 NO TRIAL JOINS and based on 1st page clicks.

woj 05-31-2008 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14221422)
This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

not bad dude :thumbsup

BV 05-31-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14259611)
not bad dude :thumbsup

This is next: http://realxxxletters.com/tour1.php

Just waiting on visa. tick tock tick toc :(

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-31-2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14259613)
This is next: http://realxxxletters.com/tour1.php

Just waiting on visa. tick tock tick toc :(

Should I be looking forward to another good feed to add to my list? :thumbsup

BV 05-31-2008 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 14259676)
Should I be looking forward to another good feed to add to my list? :thumbsup


Hell Yah :thumbsup

I'm a burnt out son of a bitch but I will be busy over the next 2 weeks (while waiting for VISA) and will have time to get them ready along with a ton of other updates to be preloaded into the other BVBucks Blog sites RSS feeds..

A lot of late night work zombie modes. :thumbsup

BV 05-31-2008 02:14 AM

Fishing really sucks balls right now anyways. and gas is ridiculous, I burnt 200 dollars in fuel last Saturday and all I got was 1 keeper Red Snapper.

I could have bought some nice BEEF at the grocery store instead!

Paul Markham 06-01-2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14221422)
This is what NSG did today, Let's see what you did: http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

http://www.nastysologirls.com/stats.jpg

1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Maybe if your content appealed more to porn buyers than affiliates you would get less traffic and more sales.

Thanks for the bump.

You can bump it again.

INever 06-01-2008 12:36 AM

I thought it was entertaining.

BV 06-01-2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14262333)
1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Maybe if your content appealed more to porn buyers than affiliates you would get less traffic and more sales.

Thanks for the bump.

You can bump it again.

It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw. :1orglaugh
but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

This is an average of all affiliates traffic! (Some affiliates convert 1:70)

BUT all is based on a 29.95 NO TRIAL MEMBERSHIP!

I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin! :1orglaugh

Camco 06-01-2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14262333)
1-800+ not that good. We do 1-300 approx, but we do get less traffic. You can take my word for it or not.

Are there any of Paul Markham's affiliates here that can verify this?

potter 06-01-2008 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14262392)
It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw. :1orglaugh
but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

This is an average of all affiliates traffic! (Some affiliates convert 1:70)

BUT all is based on a 29.95 NO TRIAL MEMBERSHIP!

I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin! :1orglaugh

as much as i dislike your content. please continue to school paul, it's fuckin hilarious.

Camco 06-01-2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14262392)
I doubt your site exceeds that overall conversion rate even with your $2.95 Trial!

I'll call you out on it Mr. "Magic Join Links"

Post a screen cap!

I bet you can't even find your way to that page in the admin! :1orglaugh

I bet he doesn't post a screen cap of his stats

payd2purv 06-01-2008 11:32 PM

1988!?! Holy smokes! :thumbsup

Adultnet 06-02-2008 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 14259611)
not bad dude :thumbsup

yep indeed ..:)

Paul Markham 06-07-2008 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 14262392)
It's actually 1:678
Based on 1st page UNIQUE , you're quoting raw. :1orglaugh
but ratios mean shit unless you are comparing apples to apples

Very true about apples. I was quoting from CCBILL stats on their affiliates page.

Yes you get a lot more traffic than me, but you don't convert it as well as we do. The reasons could be many. Could be that I get more review site and paysite traffic traffic or that you get lots more FHG traffic. Could be that you have done a deal with a big traffic source that lowers your ratios and all the others do fine. What ever it is don't you think it strange that we as an industry boast about a site converting on average 1-678? This means we had 677 people reject it before one decided to buy.

My comment on your content on your tour was based on your comments about my scene. The content I saw was all about a girls pussy, none of it related to who the girl is, why she was there, why she was doing what she was doing and the "fantasy" element I like that a girl is doing this because she's naughty. That she has brains, a personality and character that is not something she puts on for a porn movie.

But if you want to side step that debate and get it purely down to stats fine. Go discuss it with someone else. You are the stats king.

Quote:

1988!?! Holy smokes!
It was very different back then and I don't know why girls have changed so much. I shot loads of girls from 1988 to 2000 who would expose something of who they were, what turned them on and get into a scene for real. Climaxing for real was the norm, a fake one was unusual, even though some did ham it up a bit they still revealed who they were. Sometimes the girl was shy and obviously doing something at the edge of her boundaries. Sometimes it was a girl like Fleur who did the first scene very nervous and went into the second one and nailed it. Sometimes it was a girl like Anne Marie Kyte a top porn star of the day and sometimes it was a girl doing her one and only porn scene.

The only theme was the girl did the scene as she felt it should be done and yes sometimes it was crap.

In a time when we churn out cloned porn scenes were the girls are often reduced to a body part this approach is different. Is it truly unique? No there are a few girls with solo girls sites who still have the ability to get over their personality to the members. Often the solo sites that convert and retain like a mother fucker.

Some people here don't like me, but anyone who promotes a site putting a GFY board personality over a sites appeal to surfers suffers in his pocket. It's about what a surfer thinks of my porn, not what a poster on GFY thinks of me.


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