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fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 08:18 AM

Wordpress SEO question
 
Suppose you have a blog, and somebody posts about a post of yours. You get a trackback.

If you approve the comment, it will show in your comments with a link to the person that wrote about your post.

Now strictly from a seo perspective, would it be better for you to NOT approve it ? Since google discounts recip links bla bla.

Jdoughs 05-28-2008 08:33 AM

Google does not discount reciprocal linking. You just do not want to utilize only that form of linking.

I would suggest using some of both. A relevant, solid link that is recip will outweigh a non-reciprocal of equal value without relevance. They are especially valueble from a historically "authoritive" site of relevant niche or theme.

Almost all "commonly known" things about SEO are incorrect, or maybe better put, are conditional on certain factors. Nothing is really cast in stone except the fact that the big picture is the most important.

Brad Gosse 05-28-2008 09:05 AM

Most links from comments have a nofollow tag anyway so they don't normally count.

jakrandom 05-28-2008 09:42 AM

nofollow ci

baddog 05-28-2008 10:02 AM

Trackbacks are the ultimate recip. Do not hesitate to accept it and don't blow it by using the nofollow tag. Anyone that suggests doing that is not paying attention.

fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14246232)
Trackbacks are the ultimate recip. Do not hesitate to accept it and don't blow it by using the nofollow tag. Anyone that suggests doing that is not paying attention.

Why you say ? They're computer generated snippets out of already published content. I imagine they should look pretty bad to a search engine.

d-null 05-28-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14246249)
Why you say ? They're computer generated snippets out of already published content. I imagine they should look pretty bad to a search engine.

I agree with you, most of the worst splogs and spammy crap out there is using rss and trackback spam.... google should discount that kind of stuff to zero imo

tranza 05-28-2008 10:27 AM

I think this is good!

baddog 05-28-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14246249)
Why you say ? They're computer generated snippets out of already published content. I imagine they should look pretty bad to a search engine.

Okay, maybe in my haste I was thinking that common sense would take over.

If it is just a spam comment then don't bother. If it is a real comment accept it.

fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14246451)
Okay, maybe in my haste I was thinking that common sense would take over.

If it is just a spam comment then don't bother. If it is a real comment accept it.

Well, it's a trackback, you know how those are, a snippet from the other person's post surrounding where he links to you.

baddog 05-28-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14246540)
Well, it's a trackback, you know how those are, a snippet from the other person's post surrounding where he links to you.

I know what a trackback is, and have frequently attempted to promote the idea of using them.

When I used to blog on a regular basis I formed a small network of bloggers and we all did weekly trackbacks to each other.

Worked quite well. I stand by my contention that trackbacks are the ultimate recip and I will take a trackback over a link trade any day.

fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14246688)
Worked quite well. I stand by my contention that trackbacks are the ultimate recip and I will take a trackback over a link trade any day.

Do you measure this in general, or in particular, for traffic ? or Pr ? Or rankings in something speciffic, google, or hahahahahahahahahaha, or something else ?

You can't say hahahahahahahahahaha ?!

Lmao ok. Apparently you can't.

baddog 05-28-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14246935)
Do you measure this in general, or in particular, for traffic ? or Pr ? Or rankings in something speciffic, google, or hahahahahahahahahaha, or something else ?

You can't say hahahahahahahahahaha ?!

Lmao ok. Apparently you can't.

PR and rankings.

fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 12:39 PM

Aite, trackback above link trade. But what about one way link ?

baddog 05-28-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14247075)
Aite, trackback above link trade. But what about one way link ?

yes, I will take the trackback. Who would not want a relevant, one way incoming link?

pornguy 05-28-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14246232)
Trackbacks are the ultimate recip. Do not hesitate to accept it and don't blow it by using the nofollow tag. Anyone that suggests doing that is not paying attention.

Do unto others, and they will do unto you. Its a form of link trade without ever talking to the person ( one way ) . They will in turn do it for you.

fluffygrrl 05-28-2008 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14247617)
yes, I will take the trackback. Who would not want a relevant, one way incoming link?

I don't think we understand each other.

A has a wordpress blog, which contains post P.
B also has a wordpress blog, which, in post Q, makes a reference, by url, to post P.

By the nature of the wordpress software, A is sent a trackback, which appears for approval in his comment tab.

A already has a relevant, one way incoming link.

Now, on SEO considerations alone would A be better of by allowing the comment, and consequently linking back to B's post, thus accomplishing a reciprocal linking, or disallowing the comment, and keeping the link one way.

baddog 05-28-2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 14247745)
I don't think we understand each other.

A has a wordpress blog, which contains post P.
B also has a wordpress blog, which, in post Q, makes a reference, by url, to post P.

By the nature of the wordpress software, A is sent a trackback, which appears for approval in his comment tab.

A already has a relevant, one way incoming link.

Now, on SEO considerations alone would A be better of by allowing the comment, and consequently linking back to B's post, thus accomplishing a reciprocal linking, or disallowing the comment, and keeping the link one way.

1. Do they have nofollow? if so, no need to accept as no value.

2. Nofollow deactivated, and coming from a relevant site, there is value to be gained by accepting it.

3. If relevant comment, coming from non-relevant site, deny.

videodoll 05-28-2008 03:18 PM

I do not approve them. I figure, I am still getting the incoming link. Better to have more in and less out. Usually they are spammers anyway. If it is from a legit blog that I know of, within the same genre I will approve it.

d-null 05-28-2008 05:31 PM

I turn commenting completely off on most of my blogs.

nico-t 05-28-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 14248578)
I turn commenting completely off on most of my blogs.

if you use wordpress, just activate akismet in the plugins (it's in there by default)... works surprisingly good against spam comments.

skillfull 05-28-2008 08:39 PM

for a SEO purpose, they are worthless

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2008 01:16 AM

Such controversy:)

I would listen to Baddog on this.

track backs seem to work for me, but I just weigh the value of the incomming also. They got better PR than you? Accept it, they don't then see how spammy it is cuz at the end of the day it is a track back which IMHO works to a degree for SEO.

However I also value the possible incomming from the back link.

V_RocKs 05-29-2008 04:17 AM

Try both... document the differences and then post them here or write a book on WP SEO.


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