Life after the Oil Crash
 

According to this website, we have already hit "Peak oil" and oil prices will continue to rise and society as we know it will basically grind to a halt.

www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

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Another person trying to get rich off oil...

I say this every thread. It has little to do with this peak oil myth. It has almost everything to do with THE CRASHING DOLLAR. My ounce of gold can buy about the same amount of oil it could 10 or 20 years ago as it can today. Is there a peak gold too?

I am not saying the ideas to move away from oil are bad, but lets be real.

No shit oil is running out.

The current price of crude has NOTHING to do with "peak oil" - it's simply speculative.

When the PPB falls 15-20%, you are going to see a sell off like you've never seen , which will glut the world market with crude and drop the PPB down into $20 - $40 range.

I would love to debate you on what is a very simple comparison on your behalf but my mind is totally fried right now. Without trying to compare to a precious controlled commodity like gold, please explain how peak oil is a myth.

What would happen if I said my diamonds could also buy the same amount of oil it could 20 years ago? I personally know it has nothing to do with supply of diamonds.

just google peak oil myth. save us all some time. Peak oil is a distraction from the neo-con left to the what is the real problem, the dollar.

But like I said before. I am all for moving away from oil. When I buy my house I have plans on turning it as close to 100% solar as I can afford. Starting with the heating system.

Call me crazy...but isn't the price of a barrel of oil right now being driven soley by the commodities market? The actual price of getting oil out of the ground and refining it hasn't changed. I was watching the business channels the other day and they explained it in careful detail. It pretty much explained it perfectly. The world market determines price. Not saying we won't one day run out...of course we will...but the current price is directly tied to market forces. Not because we are running out...yet.

This neo-con left you speak of, are they the same people who worked for or still work for the oil companies themselves?

I really do not need biased arguments from either side. Yes both sides take it to an extreme both directions. So please give personal thoughts and reasons behind them. I do have two family members who have worked for big oil from roughly age 16-17 until past retirement age. Now despite that they are fairly hard core conservative republicans (which the party is not anymore), even they have been talking about peak oil for most of my life.

Peak-oil is real. It's just not happening now. The falling dollar and huge amounts of cash being pumped into the oil sectors are driving the price up. If the dollar was still strong the price of oil would be well under $100 PB.

Plus, when oil does start running out and prices skyrocket, the incentive to create some kind of alternative energy will be so huge that venture capitol will flood in like nothing we've ever seen before. Whoever can make an energy breakthrough will pretty much own the world and be the biggest company on Earth almost overnight. Money solves everything and right now, the price of energy is just not high enough to fuel real innovation. But it will.

Peak Oil maybe real or it may be fake. There are internal memos from Mobil, Chevron, and Texaco that where leaked that says that they are limiting refining capacity. If that is true it has the same effect as peak oil would.
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/ener...?storyId=15168

Both has been leaked FYI. Peak oil studies as well as tinkering with refineries to limit production and boost the price.
Why people will accept one and throw away the other still amazes me.

Either one could be true. The only way to know is to be the company lol

Milton Friedman crisis of change theory at its best!

RIP MILTON!

Does anyone here not care about the price of gas? I so rarely drive that I haven't really noticed.

Very true point Roc! As a webmaster driving isn't so bad, but when you go on road trips your like fuck this noise and feel it!

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Artificial scarcity is actually a conspiracy theory that I believe.

You're not alone.

It's not just about the cost of gasoline for your car. The price of oil effects practically all our ecconomy, including the cost of food...

Can anyone find any scientific paper / work that proves with valid arguments that world is running out of oil and how much oil is really out there? :D

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Will there still be baby oil ?

Yes, the recent surge has to do with speculation.

It is almost sad that these fuckers are willing to crash the global economy in order to make a quick buck.

US Congress is looking into measures to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

speculation is to blame for the recent surges

speculation, weak dollar, increase demand

in that order are to blame

Your key word there is 'recent'. Peak oil is still a real phenomenon. It's just a question of when it will happen.

It's happened to many other cultures over the history of mankind over many other types of resources. ;)

Wow thanks for the great news!

What's the website of this infos?

Hey Raven, see first post www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net :winkwink:

Interesting site. But there's an angle to every opinion. Who really knows the truth I wonder...

Can you ellaborate?

Fear is a great niche.

Ironic how the people who promote fear are revered as saviors where's people that promote pleasure (ourselves) are looked upon as demons. Best part is that fear does not require you to be factually correct, it just has to sound good.

The truth is very simple, oil is more profitable at the moment then hydrogen fuel. When oil starts to run out (may be in 100+ years, maybe in 10) the oil billionaires will then pump their funds into hydrogen. They will then control that market for years to come.

And for all those whining about $4 a gallon I don't get you people. Go live in a 3rd world country for a week, you will realize that you have everything you need to survive and more.

Sleep easy and don't fall into the doomsayers trap, these methods of sheep control are older then modern civilizations.

He's saying that the big oil companies have created an artificial shortage resulting in rampant speculation and panic; hence the ridicules prices at the pump and the windfall profits for them.

Sucks to be us, but you got to admire their style :2 cents:

OK, so it's a theory. To me, peak oil seems more plausible and, as dready pointed out, its not a case of if - but when.

Let's just hope we have figured out a viable alternative to the internal combustion engine when it does peak...

When supply is remaining steady and demand is falling, the price should be falling ... and yet the exact opposite is happening with crude oil prices.

The only crash will be crude oil prices - the current pricing is very much speculation driven. Period.

Ron

We have 20 years before everything comes to a halt

buy lots of guns.

no ones going to end up living on a farm again :2 cents:

however is society does crumble due to oil....i can see a huge backlash beginning...followed by WW3...followed by a 2nd civil war

dark days indeed...lets hope greed doesn't kill the country & oil gets back to normal pricing, with the help of "ALL ELECTRIC" cars hitting the market....and taking advantage of clean burning coal for electricity

There are many reasons for the current price of oil. The best analysis on the subject I've seen is

europe.theoildrum.com/node/4007

and theolildrum.com is a very good site for info.

Why not use just a bike? :)

btw. Did You change Your sig or do i missing something? :O

"At $2 per liter bottled spring water costs $318 per barrel"

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i cant wait until alt energy really takes off.

Looks good, thanks for sharing :-)

yep. you can actually see that in the markets.
when the US Dollar takes a hit, oil futures go up and vice versa.

New record today - $137/barrel:Oh crap

soon we find out a new resource that will replace oil..:)