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Mutt 05-30-2008 10:13 AM

So is Kimbo for real as an MMA fighter or just a novelty act?
 
is he MMA's Butterbean?

Brother Bilo 05-30-2008 10:14 AM

I think he's the real deal. Once his ground game gets a little more solid, he'll be a tough guy to beat. He still shows signs of being a street fighter though, which will get him in trouble, but I think he's for real.

TheSenator 05-30-2008 10:16 AM

He is a good stand-up guy but he still hasn't been tested on the ground yet. Either way he is training with the best.

xxxdesign-net 05-30-2008 10:18 AM

he has only beaten cans... and wouldnt be surprised if some of those fights were fixed... novelty act all the way...

xNetworx 05-30-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 14256621)
he has only beaten cans... and wouldnt be surprised if some of those fights were fixed... novelty act all the way...

:2 cents:

No college wrestling and less than 1-2 years MMA training = Novelty

Still a bad ass and I wish him the best of luck.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-30-2008 10:23 AM

i'm gonna go with novelty act at the moment. he's a mean motherfucker. but most of his fame is hyped at the moment. he has proven nothing yet really.

Brother Bilo 05-30-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 14256621)
he has only beaten cans... and wouldnt be surprised if some of those fights were fixed... novelty act all the way...

Nothing wrong with some confidence boosting fights to start a professional career. Happens all the time with guys who have high expectations, no point in throwing them to the wolves right off the bat.

TampaToker 05-30-2008 10:29 AM

If Bos Rutten says he is the real deal then he is. It will be nice to see him fight a ground fighter once. Tomorrow night is going to be off the chain! :thumbsup

goldflower 05-30-2008 10:45 AM

He is new Tank Abott . Kimbo dont have good technic , he only have very strong punch and hardcore style fight. I dont think that he can be very good fighter MMA.

tiger 05-30-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14256578)
is he MMA's Butterbean?

Yes that is exactly what he is.

kane 05-30-2008 12:24 PM

I think he can be the real deal. He is clearly very strong and hits hard. It looks like he is training hard and learning the ground game more. I think the main thing he needs is to be able to defend against the takedown so when he fights a ground fighter he can keep it on their feet where he can dominate. Chuck Liddell does that very well (although Liddell has a wrestling background). He keeps it standing where he can throw punches. I think Kimbo needs to do the same thing while he learns more of the ground game.

I don't see any problem with a few tomato can fights to start off. Just about every fighter starts off with lower quality opponents when they first start out, it is just that Kimbo is much higher in profile than most regular fighters. This guy he is facing tomorrow is not the best fighter in the world, but he is a nice step up and I really look forward to seeing it.

I'm actually just as interested to see if he and his crew get to wear the Reality Kings shirts into the ring on national TV.

stickyfingerz 05-30-2008 12:40 PM

We'll see how he does. Ive seen some of the video of him training he looks pretty solid.

notoldschool 05-30-2008 12:41 PM

He would lose to anyone of the top 30 fighters of his weight division. :2 cents:

JohnnyPearl 05-30-2008 01:43 PM

lol!! Kimbo new theme song https://youtube.com/watch?v=zPsPPmHxIbQ

Twistys Tim 05-30-2008 02:07 PM

A bit off topic -- but do you think a fighter like Lennox Lewis (in his prime) would have made very short work of UFC fighters...?

TyroneGoldberg 05-30-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 14257841)
A bit off topic -- but do you think a fighter like Lennox Lewis (in his prime) would have made very short work of UFC fighters...?

nope. apples and lettuce.

I have seen some ufc/mma fights while in pubs,bars, etc. I don't like seeing two dudes wrestling , watch alot of boxing and it's not the same. If they wasn't allowed to hold, grapple, etc then boxers will have a chance. and just like everything else you can't up and one day decide I'm going to a boxer, ufc, mma.


edit- i saw the kimbo and that boston cop clip and he was out matched. boxing wise he can beat anyone. up against a trained fighter in a controlled fight....we'll see

Jim_Gunn 05-30-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger (Post 14256867)
Yes that is exactly what he is.

Butterbean is actually an accomplished veteran boxer and MMA fighter with a combined record of 90 wins with 63 knockouts, 14 losses and 5 draws according to Wikipedia. That kind of longevity and the couple of minor heavy-weight and super-heavyweight MMA championship belts he has held deserve some respect.

Kimbo can be much bigger than this even if he is training ground skills and wrestling seriously. Elite XC is moving him along at just the right pace to keep it intersting. My Tivo is set for tomorrow night!

Chauncy 05-30-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 14257841)
A bit off topic -- but do you think a fighter like Lennox Lewis (in his prime) would have made very short work of UFC fighters...?

in a 12 round boxing match yes he would destroy any mma fighter in a 5 round mma fight he has little to no chance.

I mean really its like asking if Nicolas Lidstrom could d-up Kobe

notoldschool 05-30-2008 02:46 PM

A vast majority of pro MMA fighters are very good boxers as its part of the game. Not many boxers are trained in wrestling, BJJ, or Muay Thai. A fighter with just boxing skills loses 9/10 fights.

kane 05-30-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 14257841)
A bit off topic -- but do you think a fighter like Lennox Lewis (in his prime) would have made very short work of UFC fighters...?

Only if he got lucky and got a good punch in as he was getting taken down. No fighter in their right mind would stand and trade with him, they would take him to the ground and choke him out.

Adam_M 05-30-2008 03:33 PM

From what I have seen he is training hard, be interesting to see how he goes next time.


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