Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14277182)

Anyone watch his speech a hour or so ago? He goes on this long spell about how him and Obama should ride in the same plane and debate each other and be best buds.. Then next thing you know he starts bashing Obama. Saying how he's wrong about everything and pretty much just falling short of saying Obama would be the end of the world.

I mean is he that naive that he thinks he can act like a good ole boy and pretend to be friendly then 2 mins later totally try to trash him? Is the guy just that senile?

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 14277342)

Well his wife is hot, that has to count for something.



:winkwink:

Originally Posted by Beaver Bob (Post 14277416)

McCain is too senile to be president. He's a slimy old politican. Everytime he speaks I like to count the number of times he refers to the crowd as "my friends" :disgust

Vote for Obama, if only because McCain will put conservative judges on the supreme court and that could be disaster for many of us. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Beaver Bob (Post 14277416)

McCain is too senile to be president. He's a slimy old politican. Everytime he speaks I like to count the number of times he refers to the crowd as "my friends" :disgust

Vote for Obama, if only because McCain will put conservative judges on the supreme court and that could be disaster for many of us. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14277504)

Don't be so sure of this. Your fundamentals may be wrong. Its the liberals who seem to want to control everything - not the conservatives. Conservative platform on adult is that it is a part of free speach and therefor protected. They want to regulate it such that it doesn't endup being seen by or participated in by minors - I dont know anyone that can argue against that. Its the liberal politicians who want to put their hands into it and conrol it. Case in point, California. The VERY liberal state legislature now wants to put a 25% tax on the in state adult industry.

As for what the judges are for - specifically the supreme court - they are ONLY there to make sure the constitution is upheld. They DO NOT make laws - and by TWISTING original meaning - they infact have tried to do that very thing. By appointing more conservative judges - those judges are more STRICT constructionists - meaning they decide their rulings based on EXISTING law & constitution. NOT try to interpret it as a living document - which it is not.

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14277504)

Don't be so sure of this. Your fundamentals may be wrong. Its the liberals who seem to want to control everything - not the conservatives. Conservative platform on adult is that it is a part of free speach and therefor protected. They want to regulate it such that it doesn't endup being seen by or participated in by minors - I dont know anyone that can argue against that. Its the liberal politicians who want to put their hands into it and conrol it. Case in point, California. The VERY liberal state legislature now wants to put a 25% tax on the in state adult industry.

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14277504)

As for what the judges are for - specifically the supreme court - they are ONLY there to make sure the constitution is upheld. They DO NOT make laws - and by TWISTING original meaning - they infact have tried to do that very thing. By appointing more conservative judges - those judges are more STRICT constructionists - meaning they decide their rulings based on EXISTING law & constitution. NOT try to interpret it as a living document - which it is not.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14277667)

The conservatives are the ones who continue to put laws on the table trying to make it harder to produce porn (ridiculous things in 2257 for example). McCain put together something that would make it real tough to run any social networking (blog, forum, etc) in this country. Republican administrations have also prosecuted obscenity at much higher levels than liberal administrations. The conservative parts of the country are the ones that target it as well (whether it's porn sites, strip clubs, or adult bookstores).

There is no conservative platform that says it's free speech. In fact, the platform is that it's not. That it's obscenity and they should be allowed to prosecute it. Sure Democrats want to tax it, but Republicans want to put it out of business.



Whatever your interpretation of decisions are, conservatives have consistently ruled against pornography in the Supreme Court. Virtually every major decision has had conservative judges siding against the industry. Wanting "strict constructionist" judges is not in your best interest.

As for "twisting the original meaning", note that those liberal judges allowed blacks to vote, go to the same school, invalidated sedition laws, and a slew of other decisions that helped make our country more free. I understand both sides of the fence here, but I do think the strict constructionist go too far and don't do their jobs in ensuring that our rights are not violated. The Supreme Court was put in place to make sure our right were protected, not to be a rubber stamp for Congress.

BTW, those strict contructionist judges on the court now are only strict constructionists when they agree with the issue. See Bush v Gore.

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14277680)

that whole 'bomb iran' singing tirade kinda set his tone for me

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14277762)

Anyone with a brain has seen exactly what McCain will do when he wants to win... he will employ the same tactics that his opponents used to crush him in 2000... Just like he did to Romney when he kept insisting that Romney promoted "time limits"... remember that? Romney didn't say he supported time limits... he said the Democrats did... but McCain played the "stupid american citizen" card over and over until it cost Romney the nomination.