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Missy 06-13-2008 03:33 PM

Can you tattoo a lizard?
 
My bearded dragon loves to be out in the back yard, but blends in so well that I have to hunt for hours sometimes for him. I would SO love to get him tattooed with some neon or glow-in-the-dark ink so I can find him easier.
Any suggestions?
And please don't say just keep him inside. He would go crazy. When I don't let him out he just sits by the back door for hours like a pathetic little puppy.

payd2purv 06-13-2008 03:34 PM

whoa how big is he?

aico 06-13-2008 03:37 PM

maybe he doesn't like the outside so much as a game of hide and seek?

tical 06-13-2008 03:47 PM

knit him a sweater

After Shock Media 06-13-2008 03:56 PM

I am sure you could get something to add to one of the top scales. Or just apply some paint if you wanted and reapply every so often. Probably wouldnt do that myself as I am not sure if that could make it open to some other predators. Now could you not just get a small radio transmitter and make it a necklace?

On a side note, such a thing here would end up eaten by the other creatures.

TimBlaze 06-13-2008 03:58 PM

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...86/thefuck.jpg

Missy 06-13-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14316437)
whoa how big is he?

He's 14 inches from nose to tail. And such a sweetie!

PersianKitty 06-13-2008 04:17 PM

There are 5 bearded dragons in my house ranging from 10 years to 6 months old. My 20 year old son raises and breeds them.

I don't think it would be wise to try to tattoo a beardie. Many of them carry bugs (not bugs specifically), that might cause infection to set in on a tattoo site.

Beyond that, I've heart bad things about the glow in the dark tattoo inks.

What about something non-toxic like paints like the tempura paints they sell in craft stores? They are washable and come in some very bright colors.

PK

CaveCreek_Russell 06-13-2008 04:24 PM

I had two bearded dragons as a teenager.. never thought of letting them outside to play lol. Of course I lived in the desert and my backyard wasn't fenced in, probably wouldn't have ended well. :winkwink:

sysk 06-13-2008 04:30 PM

I didn't know dragons actually existed.

Missy 06-13-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 14316455)
maybe he doesn't like the outside so much as a game of hide and seek?

He LOVES it outside!

Here's a pic of him just hanging out in his plant island:

http://extremefuck.com/Ivan/ivan1.jpg

And this is what he does ALL DAY if I don't let him out:

http://extremefuck.com/Ivan/ivan2.jpg

But I suspect his hiding is all a game to him as well.

Missy 06-13-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14316600)
On a side note, such a thing here would end up eaten by the other creatures.

This is the worst kind of predator he has to worry about here:

http://extremefuck.com/Ivan/ivan-snail.jpg

The pic didn't turn out good, but notice him getting attacked by a snail... lol

Missy 06-13-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 14316711)
What about something non-toxic like paints like the tempura paints they sell in craft stores? They are washable and come in some very bright colors.

PK

How long would something like this last? Would I just need to apply it every time he goes outside? This actually sounds like a pretty good idea...

MichelleB 06-13-2008 04:39 PM

Paint a bright pink strip down his back

After Shock Media 06-13-2008 04:41 PM

The paints would last awhile unless you wash it off. It is just like poster paint and they do have some glow in the dark and or neon colors.

Missy 06-13-2008 04:55 PM

Here is one of him taking a nap after a hard day's work of sunning himself outside:

http://extremefuck.com/Ivan/ivan-nap.jpg

He's so cute and sweet... I just love him! He's also spoiled rotten, but he's an old man and probably won't live a whole lot longer, so he deserves to enjoy his life while he still can.

PersianKitty 06-13-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy (Post 14316852)
How long would something like this last? Would I just need to apply it every time he goes outside? This actually sounds like a pretty good idea...

They are water soluble so anytime he got wet they'd come off. You could put it on him anytime he started getting light.

I've heard of people putting a stripe on turtles that way. My son uses dots of fingernail polish on baby beardies that he's able to sex, but I wouldn't suggest that for a full grown beardie.

PK

Missy 06-13-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 14316978)
They are water soluble so anytime he got wet they'd come off. You could put it on him anytime he started getting light.

I've heard of people putting a stripe on turtles that way. My son uses dots of fingernail polish on baby beardies that he's able to sex, but I wouldn't suggest that for a full grown beardie.

PK

I am definitely going to try this method then. He usually only gets wet when he gets his bath, but occasionally he gets caught in the auto-sprinklers.
Let's just hope I can find him this time. This is the longest he's gone without showing himself and I'm starting to get worried.

PersianKitty 06-13-2008 05:07 PM

They do find weird places to get (please note.. I don't keep house for my 20 year old son)..

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/gorgon.jpg

While we're at the pictures, here's his favorite breeder male - Osky
http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/osky.jpg


And another of the various reptiles in my basement.. a gargoyle gecko (one of four)
They have ice blue eyes

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/gecko.jpg

CDSmith 06-13-2008 05:08 PM

Put a little collar around his neck, and attach one of those key-finder things to it. Then when you can't find him you just press your keyfinder button and his collar will whistle.

badda bing badda boom, done and done.

Missy 06-13-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty (Post 14317012)
They do find weird places to get (please note.. I don't keep house for my 20 year old son)..

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/gorgon.jpg

Oh my! That's so cute! So typical of these crafty little buggers, but that's a great pic!

Missy 06-13-2008 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14317018)
Put a little collar around his neck, and attach one of those key-finder things to it. Then when you can't find him you just press your keyfinder button and his collar will whistle.

badda bing badda boom, done and done.

On a normal lizard, that might work, but not on a beardie. They (at least mine) doesn't even like his beard touched. That's one of their forms of defense, and to constrict it would not only be very uncomfortable for him but also just a bad idea in general.
Note the "beard" on the one of PK's pic #2.

fallenmuffin 06-13-2008 05:37 PM

Now hot chicks have man eatting pets? I'm so screwed.

Tag him. (like they do on dogs)

DBS.US 06-13-2008 05:41 PM

I would build a big outside cage, He would get lots of sun and be safe from predators.

Missy 06-13-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin (Post 14317155)
Now hot chicks have man eatting pets? I'm so screwed.

Funny funny. I'd be more afraid of my cats than of my dragon. He's so sweet and mellow... 100% hand fed, loves to snuggle and nestle himself into long hair.

The closest thing I've ever had to a man-eating pet was a rose-haired tarantula name Dementia, and even she was totally mellow. As with any pet, if you treat it with respect, it will treat you the same.

CDSmith 06-13-2008 07:03 PM

"tag him"

You can pierce them somewhere, perhaps their tail, I don't know. There has to be a way though, because you have to admit my key-finder idea is downright ingenious. :D

CDSmith 06-13-2008 07:07 PM

That collar I mentioned doesn't have to go around his neck. What about putting a small comfy elasticized collar around him just behind his front legs? Animals are reslient, trust me he'd get used to it.

wouldn't it be great to just clap and hear that electronic beeping and know instantly where that critter is?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 06-13-2008 07:50 PM

you can get lizard leashes that would probably work alright on a full grown beardie. i've never tried one, but they seem reasonably priced. you coudl perhaps put him on the lizard leash and tether him with 20 feet or so to play.

Missy 06-13-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14317564)
"tag him"

You can pierce them somewhere, perhaps their tail, I don't know. There has to be a way though, because you have to admit my key-finder idea is downright ingenious. :D

Yes, I do have to admit that WOULD be downright ingenious... IF I could figure out a way to keep it on him. I have a feeling that if I used some snug elastic anywhere around his body, he'd snag it right off the first time he crawled through the underbrush. If I could figure out how to make it work, that would be awesome. Maybe you need to invent something like this? I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem.

Missy 06-13-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 14317811)
you can get lizard leashes that would probably work alright on a full grown beardie. i've never tried one, but they seem reasonably priced. you coudl perhaps put him on the lizard leash and tether him with 20 feet or so to play.

Yeah I've tried those (with a leather body harness). They seem like a really good idea, but on both my beardie and also my iguanas, they freaked out, started slashing and flopping around until they were out within 20 seconds. With my iguanas I was actually afraid they were going to injure themselves... they freaked out that bad. You'd think the leashes could contain a lizard, but these critters can be extremely flexible when then want to be.

Missy 06-13-2008 09:33 PM

In case anybody cares... I found my lizard. Well, I still have no clue where he was hiding, but he came out when the automatic sprinklers came on and I found him standing in the middle of the yard all disgruntled.
That's the longest he's ever been missing... something like 28 hours. And the little bastard is not going outside again until I get some of that non-toxic neon paint (or until CD invents a lizard clapper). But for now at least he's home safe and sound in his tank :thumbsup

Juicy D. Links 06-13-2008 09:37 PM

that thing looks scary , i would run away if i saw it

SomeCreep 06-13-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy (Post 14316426)
My bearded dragon loves to be out in the back yard, but blends in so well that I have to hunt for hours sometimes for him. I would SO love to get him tattooed with some neon or glow-in-the-dark ink so I can find him easier.
Any suggestions?
And please don't say just keep him inside. He would go crazy. When I don't let him out he just sits by the back door for hours like a pathetic little puppy.

You can tattoo him however you like, but it would be cruel and considered animal abuse.

Missy 06-13-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14318371)
You can tattoo him however you like, but it would be cruel and considered animal abuse.

Animals get tattooed all the time, especially expensive pedigree dogs. Also cats, horses, etc. I just wouldn't know if it would even 'take' on lizard skin.

And no, it wouldn't be considered animal abuse... at least not in terms of the legal system. Some people might consider it abuse, but some people would also consider letting a lizard out to run free in the yard abuse too. I love my animals, and anybody who knows me knows that I would never abuse them.

Spunky 06-13-2008 09:48 PM

Tie a balloon to it's tail

DK 06-13-2008 10:06 PM

this is the way to go
http://www.pet-shop.net/html/repleash.html

dont use a leash if he freaks just the harness.
Dragon's are very smart and can be trained mch like a dog.
If he knows freaking out will get him to get the harness off it will always do it.
Leave the harness on and comfort or distract him if he starts to freak out.
He will eventually become tired of throwing a tantrum and embrace the harness.
A treat after you put his harness on is a good idea as well. He will associate being rewarded
while wearing it. Be patient, 3-4 days max hes trained I bet.

Then just die the harness Safety Orange or sew on the key finder thingy.

Missy 06-13-2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DK (Post 14318487)
this is the way to go
http://www.pet-shop.net/html/repleash.html

dont use a leash if he freaks just the harness.
Dragon's are very smart and can be trained mch like a dog.
If he knows freaking out will get him to get the harness off it will always do it.
Leave the harness on and comfort or distract him if he starts to freak out.
He will eventually become tired of throwing a tantrum and embrace the harness.
A treat after you put his harness on is a good idea as well. He will associate being rewarded
while wearing it. Be patient, 3-4 days max hes trained I bet.

Then just die the harness Safety Orange or sew on the key finder thingy.

Yes I've tried the leash... in fact, the one I have is exactly the same, just a different brand. But that's some very good advice. His treats (and by far his favorite things in the world) are crickets, so maybe if I were to put him in his harness just before giving him some crickets he will give in and eventually come to accept it.

I think that if I could get him to do that, I would then try attaching that key finder device. I would rather do that than tether him, which would only end up restricting him and also allow him to get tangled too easily.
Thanks for the info :thumbsup

crockett 06-14-2008 04:10 AM

the high pitch might hurt his ears though..

Inter-Sex 06-14-2008 04:22 AM

I don't have to say much about the toppic, but the pics are really nice.

(I Also want a bearded dragon, but now sure if it's legal in Mallorca - Island Spain)

mrwilson 06-14-2008 04:34 AM

can you not just get it like an ankle band? something bright orange would be best imo..

potter 06-14-2008 04:44 AM

seriously, wtf?

VeriSexy 06-14-2008 04:57 AM

Lol at the balloon idea.. bad ass looking lizards

CDSmith 06-14-2008 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14318862)
the high pitch might hurt his ears though..

Does that thing even have ears? :1orglaugh

Okay here's my argument for that: When they are in the wild, don't other animals (birds for example) make high-pitched noises around them? They probably do just fine with that, so the warbling of a hand-clapper gizmo shouldn't hurt them at all. Then again, I'm no expert on the hearing range of these critters, but I DO know that dogs have incredible hearing, and such whistles and warbles don't harm them either.


Further to my "invention"....

I was going to say why not just spot-glue it to him, but don't those things shed their skin every once in while? That wouldn't work, so... why not just clip it around one of his legs? Done right it shouldn't be in his way for walking.

Btw, does he poop in hidden places throughout your house? :D

Missy 06-14-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14318862)
the high pitch might hurt his ears though..

Good point. I hadn't thought of that. He is extremely sensitive to noise, so I'd have to test it out first and hear how loud it gets.

Missy 06-14-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14319085)
Btw, does he poop in hidden places throughout your house? :D

Lol... wtf? Is that just out of curiosity or for another of your inventions? :1orglaugh

But to answer your question, on the rare occasion that he poops in the house, he sure in the hell doesn't try to hide it. He's got no shame whatsoever, unlike a cat or dog. But he's on a pooping schedule. He has to stay either in his tank or outside after his meal until he poos. The rays from the sun and/or bulb help him digest his meal quickly. And there have been times when I've needed to put him in a tub of warm water... that takes care of it usually within half a minute. Then he's free to roam. As I said in an earlier post, he's completely hand fed, so I always know when he eats. That makes it easy for me to keep him on schedule.

Seriously, people can actually "potty train" their lizards using the water method. Sounds crazy, but it's true!

halfpint 06-14-2008 02:45 PM

Couldent you ring one of his legs...like they do to birds and other animals but use a brightly coloured ring or paint it with glow in the dark paint

nice lizards you have btw I used to keep african fire lizards a skink and a pair of spotted geckos. The geckos which I had were not very easy to handle and one of them bit my finger and drew blood( it bloody hurt) They used to make a high pitch bird like noise somtimes during the night but I do miss keeping reptiles, they are awesome.

CDSmith 06-14-2008 02:52 PM

There's a guy here in Winnipeg who breeds and sells beardies and all the paraphernalia that goes with them, and he's been talking about getting me to do a website for him for over a year now. (delayed so long because he recently went through an expensive divorce, thus I haven't heard from him in a while, but I digress...)

No, when I ask such a question I honestly just want to know more about them, and since you actually own one (one of the few people I know that do, as a matter of fact) I thought I'd get it straight from the source.

Thanks for the answer.

I hope I have been of some help to you as well.

Further to: the hearing question. Dogs are the ones with the ultra sensitive hearing. Again, does the hearing range of beardies even compare to that of dogs? If not, I seriously doubt a little key-clapper warble is going to bother them.

Missy 06-14-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14320234)
Further to: the hearing question. Dogs are the ones with the ultra sensitive hearing. Again, does the hearing range of beardies even compare to that of dogs? If not, I seriously doubt a little key-clapper warble is going to bother them.

You know, I'd really have to research that a little more. From my own experience with him, I dont think it has anything to do with range or pitch. I just know that he freaks out over noises and runs away to hide. Even a helicoptor flying by in the distance (not directly over my house) is enough to make him run inside and hide under the bed. When (he thinks) our music is too loud, he hides under the couch or entertainment center. So yes, he's sensitive to sound, but really in his case I'd have to test it out. I think that if it's not a sound that scares him, he should be okay with it.

GrouchyAdmin 06-14-2008 03:05 PM

You could always just stick a nail right through the tail and tie a long, heavy gauge wire to it. I imagine that it'd be slightly less painful for the creature.

CDSmith 06-14-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Missy (Post 14320263)
You know, I'd really have to research that a little more. From my own experience with him, I dont think it has anything to do with range or pitch. I just know that he freaks out over noises and runs away to hide. Even a helicoptor flying by in the distance (not directly over my house) is enough to make him run inside and hide under the bed. When (he thinks) our music is too loud, he hides under the couch or entertainment center. So yes, he's sensitive to sound, but really in his case I'd have to test it out. I think that if it's not a sound that scares him, he should be okay with it.

Trust me, he'd get used to the sound after a while. Animals are resilient, and it's not like you'd be clapping and setting the thing off every five seconds. (right?) :D

If it makes him run sometimes well, he can use the exercise. :pimp


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