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pr0 06-16-2008 12:35 AM

New ISP limits: How many of you will have to adapt?
 
How many of you have high definition content inside your members area?

And do you have plans to re-program your members area to detect surfers using "limited bandwidth" isp's to serve them up lower bandwidth movies.

Or do you just not pay attention/care at all?

Iron Fist 06-16-2008 12:37 AM

320x240 video is going to make a comeback!! WOOOOOOOOOO!

aico 06-16-2008 12:38 AM

Most High Def web content is a joke anyway, would be doing most people a favor to have to take that crap of their sites.

KillerK 06-16-2008 12:41 AM

good question, hopefully the isp's will pull their heads outta the ass and just terminate the people who use too much.

pr0 06-16-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 14323759)
good question, hopefully the isp's will pull their heads outta the ass and just terminate the people who use too much.

some of the people "using too much" might be your own high usage members

using 1mbps (or 320 gigs) they might only cost you $6-15 a month tops...of course you are making $39.95 (so still coming out ahead, thus you would never terminate that member)

funny enough using that same steady 1mbps will put you over limit at comcast per month

so you might lose the customer anyways

GatorB 06-16-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 14323759)
good question, hopefully the isp's will pull their heads outta the ass and just terminate the people who use too much.

HA. That won't happen. There's way much more money to be made in overage charges. I'm not against reasonable caps. Too many fuckers think that because they pay $50 a month they can download 2TB of crap from bittorent.

I feel Time Warner's 40 Gb cap is too low but maybe they'll up it befor they institute it everywhere. Comcast's proposed 250 GB cap is more than reasonable at this point. In 5 years it may not be. Both have insane overage fees. It's doesn't cost them $1-$1.50 per GB in bandwidth. Even at 25¢ per GB they make good coin on overage fees.

By the way they have had caps in Canada for awhile now.

GatorB 06-16-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14323762)
some of the people "using too much" might be your own high usage members

using 1mbps (or 320 gigs) they might only cost you $6-15 a month tops...of course you are making $39.95 (so still coming out ahead, thus you would never terminate that member)

funny enough using that same steady 1mbps will put you over limit at comcast per month

so you might lose the customer anyways

Seriously who LEGALLY downloads 1 mbps 24/7? If I get to website then I spend 10 minutes reading a page it's not contantly downloading for those 10 minutes.

qxm 06-16-2008 01:00 AM

Netflix online + Rhapsody's service might bring me (LEGALLY) dangerously close to those caps... I watch lots of old movies ... lol :)

webmasterchecks 06-16-2008 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14323772)
Seriously who LEGALLY downloads 1 mbps 24/7?

i dont think its an issue of 24-7, they probably just care about throttling down the peak times, evenings in the US.

dont think it will work on a large scale. it sounds like something subscribers would resist and other isps will see this as an opportunity to market "all the bw you want" as a platform so there will either be other easy options to people or the isps will end up backing off

pr0 06-16-2008 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14323772)
Seriously who LEGALLY downloads 1 mbps 24/7? If I get to website then I spend 10 minutes reading a page it's not contantly downloading for those 10 minutes.

I watch documentaries on video.google.com all day long while i work

LEGAL ONES

So me......for one.

And by next year...tons of people will.

All the major networks have t.v. shows now online for free.

This is all just a ploy to take $ out of our wallets & turn control over to the major networks.

Soon their will be "safe zones" for overages. For instance, you won't get charged for watching shows from cbs, nbc etc.

Its a take over bid by the big media companies :2 cents:

shermo 06-16-2008 01:11 AM

Hmm...I've been in a cave. Where are these overages noted? Is Cox Cable imposing caps?

GatorB 06-16-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 14323790)
I watch documentaries on video.google.com all day long while i work

That's not 24/7. you do sleep.

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All the major networks have t.v. shows now online for free.
Sure and none stream higher than 1.5 Mbps. Which is fine for SD content anyways. And like I said no one does that 24/7.

GatorB 06-16-2008 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 14323799)
Hmm...I've been in a cave. Where are these overages noted? Is Cox Cable imposing caps?

Cox has had a cap they've never enforced them. It's 60 GB

Jens Van Assterdam 06-16-2008 01:15 AM

what the fuck? i got a 100mbit flatrate at home... viva la amsterdam!

pocketkangaroo 06-16-2008 01:15 AM

I guess I might be in trouble too. I usually watch a lot of TV shows off Netflix and other websites. I also am fairly addicted to listening to radio online while working whether it be Sirius or the local sports radio station.

Tat2Jr 06-16-2008 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 14323788)
dont think it will work on a large scale. it sounds like something subscribers would resist and other isps will see this as an opportunity to market "all the bw you want" as a platform so there will either be other easy options to people or the isps will end up backing off

I hope you're right, because this could really put a crimp in our whole business model.

Hopefully people will not just bitch on the internet and then not actually do anything about it, and vote with their money and move to a different ISP if they have a choice. Verizon has not mentioned doing this - if you can get verizon.... Call your cable company or ATT and let them know why you're canceling. Then do it. Don't wait for it to go nation wide. Do it now while they are testing it, and let Verizon know why you're switching too.

GatorB 06-16-2008 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14323805)
I guess I might be in trouble too. I usually watch a lot of TV shows off Netflix and other websites. I also am fairly addicted to listening to radio online while working whether it be Sirius or the local sports radio station.

Most internet radio including Sirius is 128 kbps at best. So if you listened 24/7 you'd used up 40 GB in a month. But as I said most internet radio stream at much less than 128 kbps. Hell Sirius charges you for the 128 kbps stream. If you watch TV on site like Hulu it upstreams up to 1 mbps but most shows are closer to 700kbps. CBS, ABC if you're lucky you get 1 Mbps to 1.5 Mbps max. Netflix can reach up to 2.2mbps but I doubt that's conssitant. Even so 1 hour a day would be 29 GB a month. So with Comcast's 250 GB cap you'd still find it hard to use up 250 GB.

pr0 06-16-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14324140)
Most internet radio including Sirius is 128 kbps at best. So if you listened 24/7 you'd used up 40 GB in a month. But as I said most internet radio stream at much less than 128 kbps. Hell Sirius charges you for the 128 kbps stream. If you watch TV on site like Hulu it upstreams up to 1 mbps but most shows are closer to 700kbps. CBS, ABC if you're lucky you get 1 Mbps to 1.5 Mbps max. Netflix can reach up to 2.2mbps but I doubt that's conssitant. Even so 1 hour a day would be 29 GB a month. So with Comcast's 250 GB cap you'd still find it hard to use up 250 GB.

you sound like you work for the ISP's :2 cents:


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