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officegirl2006 06-16-2008 08:10 AM

Alexa Graph On CCBill is worrying....
 
guys

i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
but why did it take such a dip mid may????

Cyndalie 06-16-2008 08:14 AM

Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

nosey 06-16-2008 08:18 AM

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...c7cfe2275e.jpg

notoldschool 06-16-2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 14324715)
Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

I wouldnt be so sure about that.

12clicks 06-16-2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officegirl2006 (Post 14324702)
guys

i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
but why did it take such a dip mid may????

they don't respond to irrelevant events. :thumbsup

Holly 06-16-2008 08:23 AM

I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

officegirl2006 06-16-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 14324715)
Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

yes it does, the ccbill.com encompasses all sub domains, so it is relevant, what, you think like maybe 1/3 of their usual hits just got fucked off with the site mid may?

or maybe its ddos issues they have been having...

officegirl2006 06-16-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14324763)
I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

i am not hell bent over alexa, i know its limitations, it is indicative approximately though, so yeah its relevant to me...

datatank 06-16-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 14324715)
Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?

Where people go on Ccbill.com:
refer69.33c1331cbi90ll.com - 83373%
bill15.ccbil131911l47.com - 967%
s80uppo21rt.ccb19ill.com - 3%
affiliatea74d18min.c846913cb62ill.com - 3%
we91badmin66.ccb62ill36.75463444c5648o4463m - 3%
cc40bill.com - 3%
a12sh1.ccbill.23co77m - 2%
about.ccbi19ll.33com - 117%
bus56i45ne13sscenter16.48ccbi0ll.91com - 1%
ph2381x2.0ccbi4ll.5565776965com - 1347%

Karupted Charles 06-16-2008 08:45 AM

CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.

webmasterchecks 06-16-2008 09:04 AM

alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.


One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/

tranza 06-16-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosey (Post 14324730)

hahahahaha nice pic!

Taass 06-16-2008 10:11 AM

This actually concerns me more..


Site Stats for ccbilleu.com:
Speed: Slow (69% of sites are faster), Avg Load Time: 2.5 Seconds

:(

freek01 06-16-2008 10:12 AM

Maybe it is because of overall sales ?
My sales went down with 40% in the last 5 months and I did not change a fucking thing all is normal except for my sales. And I am not the only one having this problem.
So if a lot of people have less sales maybe that's why visitors don't go to ccbill dot com domain where they can cancel their accounts. Simple because less people have to cancel.

What I would like to know is if ccbill experiences a large drop in sales looking at ALL their webmasters subscriptions.
That would be usefull information.
But I know whishfull thinking .......

KillerK 06-16-2008 10:13 AM

maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?

WiredGuy 06-16-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles (Post 14325032)
CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.

I was going to say the exact same thing, I'm willing to bet their CDN is messing up Alexa's results as their traffic is being relayed across different servers across the globe and Alexa isnt recognizing that.
WG

snaker 06-16-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14324763)
I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.

agreed, but I still always check the thing!

HorseShit 06-16-2008 10:46 AM

who gives a shit who gives a fuck

officegirl2006 06-16-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 14326548)
who gives a shit who gives a fuck

i fuckin do you asshole

Brujah 06-16-2008 02:34 PM

Notice the same people always want to cover up something relevant, with inaccurate or lame excuses and uninformed opinions. Anyone using ccbill on either side of the fence has a valid interest in whether it's something to concern them or not.

Vexes 06-16-2008 05:26 PM

malware and other spyware

12clicks 06-16-2008 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 14326268)
maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?

join date, last month

CCBill Paul 06-16-2008 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 14325347)
alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.


One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/

this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

paulk at ccbill.com

Brujah 06-16-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul (Post 14331638)
this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

paulk at ccbill.com

Further validation that at least something like this could be responsible, is to compare the results of compete.com and quantcast.com which neither sites indicate a drop corresponding to the same period. While none of them are very accurate, they might help with a correlation of metrics.


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