When did teen change from being 18 or 19, to any girl less than 30 with pigtails?
 

I was just wondering... Can anyone explain when the definition of teen changed? I think we would all like to know.
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Some paysite owners are just stupid, simple as that. They have 26 year old girls on teen sites, 30 on milf sites or even 40 year olf milfs fucking guys their age, who the fuck wants to see two old fucks having sex, and even more non-sense. But more money for the others, I guess.

I film a lot of real teens, 18 & 19 years old. Very rarely put girls in pigtails- that look is kind of dumb in most cases.

Yea I always thought this was crazy as well! I always had affiliates tell me I needed to take my real age off my site because I was in my 20's and people wouldn't promote me because surfers wouldn't sign up. I guess I am a prime example that you don't have to be 18 to make money lol. I started my site when I was 20 and I make a lot more money now and am converting better then ever and I will be 26 in a few days. Melissa

Nice site by the way! I am not saying that a person HAS to be a teen to make money, but what I am saying that a person that claims that it is a teen stick to the definition of 18 or 19 as teen. What's next? I shoot a lot of milf, tranny, gay, whatever, but you have to label it properly. The consumer WILL know the difference.

No the definition has not changed from what I understand... it sounds like your are just seeing some noobs who don't know what they are doing...

:upsidedow

No shit.. thing is, it's "ok" if you have an older unknown chick act like a teen if she has the looks for it... but a site opened up about 6 or so months ago as a teen site and the fuckers have a well known non-teen say right in the trailer video that she was 20 something... yeah.. some people are really stupid fucks.

Thats most of the big companies...not just some newbies.

don't worry about that.. i will still fuck you..

i'll buy you a Greyhound ticket tomorrow and you can be her in 8 days... :1orglaugh

Tawny Stone has been the 19 year old internet sensation for how many years? :)

Case in point:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=839473

I would like some feedback on professional opinions on this girl's age.

PPfffttt what do you kno about teens? Jim Gunn? pfft.. :1orglaugh PPppfffftttttttttt... Jim Gunn...

Can you be my daddy? I love you.

"The 19 year old internet sensation" sure sounds a lot more sellable than "The 27 year old fat-ass from Texas".

Tawnee Stone is a fictional character, so she doesn't age. Bart Simpson is still in the 4th grade, too. Move on.

I wonder if I could shoot chicks with dicks, if I just had a girl wearing a strap on... Hmmm.. I don't see why not.... I guess the point I am trying to make is that the content should be labelled and categorized properly. There is a market for about anything, but this has to stop, the marketing of almost middle aged women as teen. Or labeling anything else as something it's not.

To those really into the "Milf" niche (ie: me), mature and milf aren't the same thing. Milf specifically means MOM I'd like to fuck. Age has nothing to do with someone being a milf or not. Technically the knocked up highschool chick standing waiting for her bus will soon be a milf.

But I'm sure you already know. :winkwink:

You're stunning tho. Every guy would like you as their girlfriend. Thats why you convert so well I'm sure.

This isn't something that's new. Our industry has been doing it for decades...

What are you talking about??? Teens do not need pigtails.
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Yeah, I know that even a 20 year old can be MILF, but thats not what the "milf lovers" are looking for. ;)

"30 on milf sites or even 40 year olf milfs fucking guys their age, who the fuck wants to see two old fucks having sex"

As a 43 year old I am obligated to say that 30 and 40 is not "old fucks" goddamn it! :mad:

:thefinger

...about as long as I can remember.

As one myself, I'd have to disagree.

It's not about the age, it's about the certain something a woman becomes once she has a baby. Yeah, most prefer the older mom of their good friend...that's too easy. The real "milf" lovers get off on the "Mom" aspect of things. That's what the niche started out as, but now it's just another term for mature.

With photoshop, models over 18 or 19 can be made to look like one.

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guys, admit it... he's got a point!

I'm working mainly with milf traffic, few years now, I spent probably few hundred thousands on advertising over the years and got traffic from all possible sites. And I tried all possible milf templates, content, etc. And its the little things within the same niche which make one campaign great and the other one horrible. Most people wouldn't even notice its a different campaign. Details, thats it.

ahahahahah lol

i've seen older women dress in school girl outfits with pigtails.
some look ok but others just look strange.

Ugghhhhh... I hate that. A twenty-something year old with a lollipop billed as a "teen" just looks "retarded."

Hmmm, maybe I could get some construction workers and put them in wigs, skirts, and lipstick and bill them as "hot lesbian teens" :1orglaugh

How many 19 year old women suck on lolipops anyway?

A 19 year old with pink bowed pigtails and a stuffed animal parade is far worse IMHO.

But it's only MHO so carry on.

around the same time MILF changed from being "the hot 40+ mom of my best friend" to "anything that ever gave birth.."...

hot mother of god

:thumbsup Exactly!!! I will be 29 in August!!! Makes 11 years in the biz and still kicking ass!!

It's all smoke and mirrors ...

Haha so true!

Yeah... I dunno, it's a pretty tough call for me... it's all just fits in the WTF category for me. I personally, am a fan of twinks... I'd be pretty upset if I paid for a dvd and got a bunch of 30 year olds.

Word.....

What the hell is a twink anyways.. I always think of that creme filled snack when I hear that term....

Hahaha, no, that's a twinkie... you hungry or somethin'?

A twink is a young or young-looking gay or bisexual man... when knowledge fails us, Wikipedia.org to the rescue!

I actually didn't know the "official" consensus on the term... just that twinks are yummy young boys that like other boys... creme filled? lol :winkwink:

You go girl congrats, I keep thinking I will retire soon but I am having too darn much fun and the money doesn't hurt either lol. So 11 years really wow I still have 5 more years left at least if that's the case Melissa

I'm sure you are hot, but I still wouldn't enjoy watching you having sex with a milf. :thefinger

Sounds good Veronica.. Maybe we could collaborate on this. I could do lesbian, teen, milf, gilf, solo girl, solo guy, and think of the money I would save on models! ;) I wonder if the URL www.alldaveallnight.com is taken? Do you think I would look better in a dress, a miniskirt, or jeans? (BTW, the two girls on the back could do some hardcore boy boy if needed...)

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All kidding aside, Veronica, you get my point. I have a lot of trouble shooting content with an apeture of 2 years for teen, but I do it. I just work harder. If I have to shoot a milf, darn it, I get a milf. Chick with a dick, I'm on my bike to Mexico City to get a chick with a dick. I just think that a person has to put forth that extra effort to capture what the client wants, not just what is easiest to shoot at the moment.

Nice, I'm a Cancer too :winkwink: ...

So refreshing!
 

Honestly, one of the things that kept me away from this board for a long time was checking out people's "niche" sites and seeing that they just. don't. get it.

I mean, the impression I get from a lot of the niche porn sites is "let's make a buck off these perverts." I have no problem with people making a lot of money off of other people's fetishes (obviously), but I think a person who decides to run one of these sites ought to really try to get into the heads of their target market and figure out what it is that really excites them, then do their best to satisfy that need. Sure, a lot of guys will settle, sign up for something that is kind of like what they're into, but I have to imagine they feel used and don't want to stick with their memberships. I think it's great that sites are moving toward greater interactivity, which allows models and content providers to get feedback on what their members are looking for. I noticed for a long time that fetish porn was either strictly fetish and produced on a shoestring budget, or sex with a dash of fetish that was poorly done. I am glad to see that some sites have emerged that do a pretty good job of blending them... I particularly like the Kink.com sites and The English Mansion... kudos!

I am glad to hear that you put in the extra effort - I am sure you make a lot of people very happy. :)

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