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emjay 07-13-2008 02:59 AM

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
 
At first I thought they might be a County and Western duo but I'm just an ignorant European lol

Shares in these US mortgage giants dropped by as much as 50% in rollercoaster trading on Friday amid concerns for their future.

Anyone got a mortgage with them?

Vendot 07-13-2008 03:03 AM

Yeah thats the irony about all this.... the banks that are going down are the ones with the most ridiculous names.

Indy Mac??? In the UK, the one our government took over was Northern Rock (what kind of a name is that?).

emjay 07-13-2008 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14454282)
Yeah thats the irony about all this.... the banks that are going down are the ones with the most ridiculous names.

Indy Mac??? In the UK, the one our government took over was Northern Rock (what kind of a name is that?).

The Japanese Bank names are just as bad.

Following last week's news that Origami Bank had folded, we hear that Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank plans to cut back some of its branches. Karaoke Bank is up for sale and is going for a song.

Meanwhile, shares in Kamikaze Bank have nose-dived and 500 back office staff at Karate Bank got the chop. Analysts report that there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank and staff there fear they may get a raw deal.:1orglaugh

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-13-2008 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14454301)
The Japanese Bank names are just as bad.

Following last week's news that Origami Bank had folded, we hear that Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank plans to cut back some of its branches. Karaoke Bank is up for sale and is going for a song.

Meanwhile, shares in Kamikaze Bank have nose-dived and 500 back office staff at Karate Bank got the chop. Analysts report that there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank and staff there fear they may get a raw deal.:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :winkwink:

DaLord 07-13-2008 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14454301)
The Japanese Bank names are just as bad.

Following last week's news that Origami Bank had folded, we hear that Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank plans to cut back some of its branches. Karaoke Bank is up for sale and is going for a song.

Meanwhile, shares in Kamikaze Bank have nose-dived and 500 back office staff at Karate Bank got the chop. Analysts report that there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank and staff there fear they may get a raw deal.:1orglaugh

That joke was posted Nov 1 2007 on another board :)

emjay 07-13-2008 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 14454315)
That joke was posted Nov 1 2007 on another board :)

I know that DaLord. Heard of copy & paste?:winkwink:

DaLord 07-13-2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14454317)
I know that DaLord. Heard of copy & paste?:winkwink:

Feel free to call me Mike...or Viking... I keep forgetting to have Ice change my nick :)

Ice... open you ICQ.

emjay 07-13-2008 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 14454329)
Feel free to call me Mike...or Viking... I keep forgetting to have Ice change my nick :)

Ice... open you ICQ.

nyde din søn, Mike:)

woj 07-13-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14454301)
The Japanese Bank names are just as bad.

Following last week's news that Origami Bank had folded, we hear that Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank plans to cut back some of its branches. Karaoke Bank is up for sale and is going for a song.

Meanwhile, shares in Kamikaze Bank have nose-dived and 500 back office staff at Karate Bank got the chop. Analysts report that there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank and staff there fear they may get a raw deal.:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xmas13 07-13-2008 11:03 AM

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...Z0YJp2YqEG1stw

Meanwhile Peter Schiff at Euro Pacific Capital said the two giants are likely to need government bailouts in view of the "dubious quality of their mortgage portfolios."

"Together both firms have less than 90 billion dollars in capital reserves to ensure losses on more than five trillion dollars in mortgage debt," he said.

"Could anyone reasonably believe that a two percent reserve fund can cover all the losses that are likely to be seen? ... Clearly, Fannie and Freddie would have no ability to survive without a government bailout. This means that taxpayers will be on the hook for hundreds of billions of losses, perhaps even more than one trillion."

emjay 07-13-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 14455074)

"five trillion dollars in mortgage debt," he said.

is that five million million dollars, or five million million million?

Either way, it's a big number...

Domain Diva 07-13-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14455119)
is that five million million dollars, or five million million million?

Either way, it's a big number...



1,000,000,000,000 (one million million;) = Trillon

In simple terms they are in deep shit :thumbsup

emjay 07-16-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Banana Claire (Post 14455234)
1,000,000,000,000 (one million million;) = Trillon

In simple terms they are in deep shit :thumbsup

Thanks for clearing that up Clair ;-)

Apparantly, they are "in no danger of failing", Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said today.

Thank goodness for that!

SinSational 07-16-2008 02:51 PM

the mortgage mess will lead to countless foreclosures providing a great market for real estate investors

Vendzilla 07-16-2008 02:52 PM

I just got a refi with indymac, not worried, I'm sure someone will be there to take my payments

Ice 07-16-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 14454329)
Feel free to call me Mike...or Viking... I keep forgetting to have Ice change my nick :)

Ice... open you ICQ.

My icq is on

Vendot 07-16-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SinSational (Post 14467975)
the mortgage mess will lead to countless foreclosures providing a great market for real estate investors

Sure thing but the question is who will want to invest in an America so racked with debt?

emjay 07-16-2008 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14468472)
Sure thing but the question is who will want to invest in an America so racked with debt?

We borrow, like all people that spend more than they earn. Who do we borrow from? Those who spend less than they earn. Who might that be? China, among others, loans to America so we can continue to buy more from them then we sell to them.:2 cents:

emjay 09-07-2008 11:10 AM

US government takes control of Fannie and Freddie
 
The US Treasury has announced a rescue plan for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two struggling government-sponsored mortgage groups whose fate is key to the future of the US housing industry and financial markets.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/79ea39b6-7...077b07658.html

TheSenator 09-07-2008 11:16 AM

Corporate welfare at its best.

Republicans are just so stupid....the believe in the free market except when it comes to big corporation.

TheSenator 09-07-2008 04:23 PM

China is selling off US bonds...
China owns us...
http://xkorpion.wordpress.com/2008/0...nie-freddie-2/

cybermike 09-07-2008 04:35 PM

so how much is the stock going to rebound tomorrow?

bbm 09-07-2008 04:43 PM

Who are they? I don't know them.

emjay 09-08-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bbm (Post 14721214)
Who are they? I don't know them.

They own or guarantee about half of the U.S.'s $12 trillion mortgage market.

qxm 09-08-2008 07:32 AM

... yeap the fed just took over... interesting shit...

teomaxxx 09-08-2008 07:32 AM

this is really foolish, to reward crooks and bill the taxpayer for it.
both of them should in a prison due accounting games.
both CEOs ruined their companies and they get even bonus reward.

http://www.businesssheet.com/2008/9/...ie-and-freddie
Taxpayers are now on the hook for tens of billions of dollars of capital necessary to save Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE). The CEOs of both companies--the ones who ran them into the ground--have thankfully been shown the door. But they're taking a nice pot of money with them.

Specifically, Dan Mudd, the CEO of Fannie Mae, is getting $9.3 million of severance for destroying his company. Richard Syron, the CEO of Freddie Mac, is getting $14.1 million--in part because of a clause he added to his employment contract two months ago, when it was clear the company was headed for disaster...

Wizzo 09-08-2008 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 14467985)
I just got a refi with indymac, not worried, I'm sure someone will be there to take my payments

Please send your payment to Wizzo@epassporte... I'll be happy to take it...:winkwink:

directfiesta 09-08-2008 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Banana Claire (Post 14455234)
1,000,000,000,000 (one million million;) = Trillon

In simple terms they are in deep shit :thumbsup

That's a lot of fucking BANANAS .... :helpme

sweetredhead 09-08-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Banana Claire (Post 14455234)
1,000,000,000,000 (one million million;) = Trillon

In simple terms they are in deep shit :thumbsup

screwed up is what it is makes you want to keep ur money in ur mattress, who knows which bank/s shit the bed next

Vendot 09-08-2008 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 14721188)
so how much is the stock going to rebound tomorrow?

FNM is just over $1

So whats the score? I thought this was supposed to be good news as it added stability?


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