Flash VP6 vs H.264

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  • brandonstills
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2007
    • 1964

    #1

    Flash VP6 vs H.264

    What is the quality difference between VP6 and H.264? Which has better quality, file sizes being the same? What do you use to encode FLV's with H.264 or are they just MOV's?

    Brandon Stills
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  • cryptie
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2007
    • 114

    #2
    H.264 pretty much replaced vp6, I say pretty much because development on vp6 still continues with vp6HD.

    I'd go with H264

    technically, you CAN encode a .mov with H.264, rename it and load it in a flash player, but it's not the PROPER way to do it.

    I encode them with FFMPEG server side.

    I'm still playing with flags though.
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    • cryptie
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2007
      • 114

      #3
      ffmpeg -y -i "$inputfile" -threads "$threads" -pass 1 -an -vcodec libx264 -b "bitrate"000 -r "framerate" -s "resolution" -bf 3 -qcomp 0.7 -g "keyint" -keyint_min "keyintmin" -refs 5 -loop 1 -flags +4mv -cmp 256 -coder 0 -me_range 16 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -level 30 -qmin 10 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -padcolor 000000 -padtop "padtop" -padbottom "padbottom" -padleft "padleft" -padright "padright" -passlogfile "logfile" "tmpfile
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      • react
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2003
        • 673

        #4
        Decoding H.264 is still pretty intensive on the client side. I'd stick with VP6 for a bit, perhaps with H.264 as an option.
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        • cryptie
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2007
          • 114

          #5
          I read that after i posted my last post in this thread. to tell you the truth, i never really looked at VP^ too much, I'm a AVC fanboy :p
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          • stickyfingerz
            Doin fine
            • Oct 2005
            • 24984

            #6
            h.264 is beautiful and we use a encrypted streaming only model for our HD solo girl sites. Took a while to get things nailed down, but its pretty much awesome for us now.

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            • brandonstills
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2007
              • 1964

              #7
              Originally posted by cryptie
              H.264 pretty much replaced vp6, I say pretty much because development on vp6 still continues with vp6HD.

              I'd go with H264

              technically, you CAN encode a .mov with H.264, rename it and load it in a flash player, but it's not the PROPER way to do it.

              I encode them with FFMPEG server side.

              I'm still playing with flags though.
              So ffmpeg encodes to H.264 FLV's? or is it another format?

              Brandon Stills
              Industry and programming veteran
              [email protected] | skype: brandonstills | ICQ #495-171-318

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              • stickyfingerz
                Doin fine
                • Oct 2005
                • 24984

                #8
                Originally posted by brandonstills
                So ffmpeg encodes to H.264 FLV's? or is it another format?
                Have to use .mp4 for h264 codec.

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                • k0nr4d
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 9231

                  #9
                  I was JUST going to ask you for that command line you are using with x264, then saw you posted right under. Thanks alot!
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                  • cryptie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 114

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brandonstills
                    So ffmpeg encodes to H.264 FLV's? or is it another format?
                    FFmpeg will encode H264 compatible files yes, but like sticky said, they have to be renamed, unless yu added the rename flag in the command line.

                    Originally posted by k0nr4d
                    I was JUST going to ask you for that command line you are using with x264, then saw you posted right under. Thanks alot!
                    no problem, please note, however, that like i said in my post prior to that, that i am not a expert, and just fooling around. My tech support on ffmpeg will be close to nil, thanks for your understanding, and please let me know if you get any use out of it!
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                    • Lucky Bastard
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 313

                      #11
                      Bookmarked.. Thanks

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