with all the free porn on the net which programs will survive and fall?
 

who do you think will survive the next year and why?

RedTube.... just a hunch.

Oh you mean legal programs. Hmm..

ok No tube sites:1orglaugh

those with real niche content will still rock

Solo girl programs will survive... and programs with exclusive stuff, most of them will survive.

really. I'm a guy and all I care about is jacking off to some hot free porn. I dont have money to pay for it

what if there is free niche content out there to wack off to?

that isn't a bad idea, start up an "All Niche" Tubesite!! :thumbsup

LOL I'm sure its already out there and many more to come

NicheShops.com will survive. The sex toy market is growing, and until everyone has their own home fabber piracy won't be a problem. Somehow we're not too afraid of users "sharing our content". In fact we encourage it.

I believe this also, that's why I'm going back to the babelog scene.

I see that plain hardcore videos will slowly become nothing and nobody will signup for anything that's not unique, and solo girl sites will stay strong as they offer something tubes cannot, interaction from the model they are seeing.

I seem to think smaller programs will be able to ride out this storm better than the large programs. Smaller sites are more nimble and can fill gaps that the big sites leave open.

Sites that give the surfer what they want, give them something in the members area that actually makes them feel they are part of something and connected to the product.

Live cam sites will survive... can't pirate that shit

Cams, Dating and hopefully unique stuff like us :)

Can't duplicate live :)

May I direct you to my pretty sig banner? :winkwink:

Dating will not have any trouble.
Cams will probably decrease a little, not that much.
Adult will feel one hell of a shakeup though.
WG

The brands will be still be here

Micro Niched proggys that update regularly and have unique content will always be around! My 2 cents

I think the paysite model will be fine for the next few years for those webmasters who know how to adapt their marketing efforts for the changing times.

No longer can webmasters rely on the "newbie" surfer for their signups. Signups are now coming from surfers that know what they want and have done their research on the paysite before entering their credit card.

This means subpar paysites and those who push them will continue to see their income dwindle. :(

Surfers are more informed and tech-savvy. Word-of-mouth and reviews are separating the good porn from the bad. Make sure you are pushing the best paysites - drop the programs that launch a new site every month but whose members area is severely lacking - they are going the way of the dinosaur :2 cents:

Live Cams dating Dating will do best, for the reason listed above. Solo sites will always do well because of the connection they make with the surfer , usually through Live Cams.:thumbsup

What makes you think cams would decrease and not dating? Just curious.

yes until someone uploads all their "exclusive" content to the tubes.

Its a good thing I didn't read this thread beginning this year, or I'd never open my program.

Can someone explain to me why dating will continue to do good?

I'm not disagreeing, I just don't understand the logic.

The direction of this thread is that tube sites which give away a product for free are what is hurting sales. Can't dating sites be completely replaced by free dating sites who use a advertising model to generate revenue?

It seems like a rush of free adult dating sites are right around the corner.

I agree, specifically with those solo girls who interact with the subscribers in various ways.

Good point - like plenty of fish? I haven't seen any free adult dating sites though.

I'm voting for the "Like Porn? Start your own site!" sites.

Sorry, Rob, but I doubt that RevshareHosting is doing any better than you, and they give what they have away for free.

Solo is by far the easiest to get webmasters to promote, easy way of getting sales and great with retention as long as the model stays active on the site. The ones who do join don't care about the free content on the tubes they care about there weekly fix with the model threw cam or there forum :2 cents:

Small niche players.

1. Better understanding of their customers.
2. Can more easily adjust to change.
3. Have a good feel and control of their traffic sources.
4. Quick turn a round on customer requests.
5. More personal feel, and knowledge of the webmaster and models.
6. No massive overhead of expense.
7. Less true competition.

and so forth..

I really hate FORTH.

Sex Toys will always be a live and well. Just made 175.00 sale from some perv in NYC :)

Everyone already knows about the tube sites, and well, some of them really cant get bigger in terms of views. Theres a bunch in the top 100 on alexa. I would say the adjustment to these sites is already felt for the most part. To me, the big adjustment started last summer of 2007 and ran into april of 2008, then things sort've stabilized (the big sites hit a ceiling).

The threat isnt tube sites, the threat is piracy. Most of the big tube sites have money on the table now, where they know better than to steal blatantly, and I do still think there's litigation coming for some of the big boys who like to look the other way or steal blatantly. I know first hand we are compiling evidence against some, and the laws around piracy worldwide will change to make it easier to prosecute. I say that because, if you think its bad in adult, its much worst for Hollywood, music, software, etc. Recently a popular content removal site was having trouble with a tube site owner, well this company deals with all the biggest companies and eventually someone got fed up and there was going to be a real lawsuit - the hosts were contacted, the owner was contacted, a mass email was sent out to said comapny's client list, and from what i know - the owner became a bit more cooperative after that.

a good read on dating in web 2.0
http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...120_688300.htm

I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet myself. You could have a script made for probably under $1000 that could rip profiles from all the big adult dating sites, then just start a free one and let the real profiles slowly purge out the fakes. Adult webmasters seem to feel they can steal content, I don't see why those same slimeballs would have a problem stealing profiles.

This is not some 'new concept' toots.

I have been doing this for years, and advocating others follow suit, in cracking down the theft of our shit. However, I am happy to see it working for some others now who have come to see the light.

Saber rattling and "calling people out" on message boards does not get your content removed. Knocking out their registrar, sponsors, hosting, and processor does.

Bravo.

I think a free dating site using google adsense would do real well. like modelmahem.com its free and makes about 75k a month off google.

so dating sites make money off porn traffic and mainstream makes money off dating sites lol.

Im going to try it out