Firefox's private browsing aka Porn mode arrives - trouble ahead?
 

I know it has been here before, but might be good to renew the discussion:

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Your thoughts?

Doesn't Google Chrome have 'incognito mode' that's kind of like this?

But yeah, this could suck bigtime for affiliates.

In the netherlands they call it the "porn button" its widely used by spoiled moms with children at home.. dont ask why i know it, its just like that.

it might be rough for affiliates pushing sponsors that track with cookies, like ccbill... all others shouldn't be effected much at all...

:2 cents:

why couldn't they have just made a "clean everything up" button, that you could press when you were finished browsing?

it might make ratios better. maybe keep people who SHOULDNT be looking at the site. I highly doubt it though. People want to see porn, they dont just come across it. They will just turn it off. It might even piss some people off who are looking for porn and arent that computer literate

I would propose a bill to get every single guy his own sponsored private laptop.

At least the cookies will be set for that session. It could be worse. It could completely block cookies (the first thing I do to my browsers BTW).

You are mom with children :1orglaugh

CCBill uses IP tracking also, which cannot be changed.

Give them some credit; they've been around long enough to figure this out already.

It is a really big issue, and sponsors are really not motivated to solve it. For the example, sponsors like AWE where you got the rebills only if the user have the cookie...

Well with 20% of the market.. it's not as big of a deal as everyone is trying to make it out as. CCBILL is on the case

there's still a high % of people using IE

Even for those that don't care about loosing potential revenue - how many FF standard features haven't been copied by IE as of lately?

I'm not saying IE won't have something similar, I know for sure it will, as others have mentioned it will have a smaller impact than people think

exactly

they dont just reply on cookies for ages already

Are NATS sponsors gonna be effected by this?

Am I the only one freaking about losing 10-15% percent of my revenue?

NATS programs don't rely on cookies, they just use them as another method of backup tracking.

Cookies died years ago and many programs and software backends already adjusted for it.

How do the programs track then???

IP?

Most tracking is done via query string anyways. (the ?yourid or =yourid etc in the url)

This will only affect bookmark signups with sites that use ccbill tracking and other similar things. (Where you bounce the user off of a tracking site and then back to a static url afterwards)
People who signup right away will still be tracked regardless of what type of tracking is done.

The privacy mode just clears everything out once you're done...it doesn't block things as you are surfing. You wouldn't be able to check your gmail or myspace or anything like that if your browser didn't accept cookies. :2 cents:

If your sales are down, this isn't why. Keep digging.

Don't worry about it, I have a default FireFox install running and it doesn't even have cookies erased while in private mode.

Most surfers who pay for porn aren't smart enough to turn this thing on or off.

More joins for sponsors they don't have to pay affiliates for. Has been a trend for years now.

lots of people already surfing with cookies off. i dont have cookies enabled, it happened during the browser setup if i remember right.

i don't think this will affect much tbh.

It's drama... but nothing will really change. Most reputable sponsors have IP and referrer tracking, so if they sign up after bouncing off my network, i'll still get credit. :thumbsup

This fucks us Hard.

Sites that don't keep the affiliate string in the url at all times, when a surfer bookmarks the link and comes back, usually the cookie would be read.

Although a program owner will see LOTS more default traffic.

thats fucked

Surfers using HeatSeek will not be affected by this, but will still get the privacy and protection they are looking for. Joins to affiliate sites (both cookied and non-cookied) will stay the same. We figured out a better "porn mode" a long time ago :thumbsup

IP-based tracking would be much more accurate for all impulse buyers. Too bad it wont track the joins for those who return a couple of days later with a new IP and cookies off.

People who don't want to leave any traces probable already know how to erase it all, but Private Browsing makes it too damned easy for sure..

If you have stuff of quality it won't matter much :)

I think it will cause a lot of people a loss of $$

i think its already had an effect on affiliates and has for years... most computers have cookies turned off anyhow.... i think surfes have been covering their tracks more and more anyway, this just adds to it.

i mean, Lensman didnt sell his eraser last year, this stuff has been around forever, "erasing" is so 90s now lol

now they make it so you dont need to erase...

I think this could work well...but people are so lazy...

yes and so does IE 8. So how is this news?

safari has this also.

like someone said IE still has the market.

Unless people are using dial-up most people's IP adress doens't change very often.

IE DOES have this feature and has had it for months now.

Yeah, similar with "incognito mode" in Chrome.

That sucks really.

IE 8 has one, they're the first that started it inprivate browsing with IE 8 Beta 1... its an easy on off feature that most people will not even use.

Cookies are harmless, but security software companies have turned them into the boogeyman so that their ignorant paying clients feel like the software they paid for is doing it's job and finding spyware.

I'm surprised to see webmasters in this thread saying that they shut off cookies. What is the point?

Word. I had a computer retard friend call me up yesterday saying his computer was full of virus', so I go over and check it out and he's like "look at all those!". Had a bunch of cookies listed as malicious code. :mad:

My antivirus does this all the time, It lists all cookies as tracking cookies then just deletes them ..lol

where were you when when Internet Explorer 8 had private mode ? most of your customers are using IE8 . not firefox.