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Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:27 AM

Can someone from Livejasmin Explain this?
 
Hello collective of GFY

I send traffic to livejasmin right? And today i noticed they place a popunder on their website, code is like this :


<script>
var win = null;
var DOLO = false

function addclickpopunder()
{
DOLO = true;
}

function openPopUnder(e)
{
if (win === null && DOLO) {
win = window.open('http://community.livesex.com/?content_type=straight', 'lsPopUnder',
'menubar=1,resizable=1,scrollbars=1,status=1,locat ion=1,toolbar=1,left=0,top=0,width=1024,height=768 ');
if (win !== null) {
win.blur();
window.focus();
}
}
}

if (document.attachEvent) {document.attachEvent('onclick', openPopUnder);}
else if (document.addEventListener) {
document.addEventListener('click', openPopUnder, false);
}
</script>

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Why would an affiliate program place a popunder towards their own affiliates biggest competition player?

Is this normal?

Love to hear your replays

seeandsee 11-07-2008 06:29 AM

thats strange

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:29 AM

And also, this player has all on PPS, so when a surfer signs up with Livesex, the affiliate is shit out of luck. Is see no LOGICAL meaning in this whole situation. I almost would say my traffic is being taken now for their own purpose. but i wait with making conclusions untill i get some more replays on this situation.

Machete_ 11-07-2008 06:35 AM

Livesex Is = Livejasmin unless they sold it

Livesex was the site they use to accept kiddiporn traffic to.

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:38 AM

but its a tube site, are they hopeing my traffic bookmarks it, and on this way they take my hard earned visitors?

I still find this a un logical way of working with your hard working affiliates. This is the first Adult Cam program in my list that pop-ups tube sites on affiliate traffic.

DamageX 11-07-2008 06:40 AM

AWE doing shady shit? Noooo...

Machete_ 11-07-2008 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15018918)
but its a tube site, are they hopeing my traffic bookmarks it, and on this way they take my hard earned visitors?

I still find this a unlogical way of working with your hard working affiliates. This is the first Adult Cam program in my list that pop-ups tube sites on affiliate traffic.

I never really wanted to promote cams, but then I desided to test them together with Pussycash/imlive and Dwrecks program (forgot the name)

Livejasmin came out way ahead of the others on the ratio, but that was kind of useless because about a month into the test, they decide to change to the time limited revshare, and cookie overwriting shit. Then the traffic source problem I mentioned happened, that was the last time i ever promoted a camsite.

I have ImLive/pussycash on the way in on a site thats still on the drawingboard, but im still not a big fan of camsites - its a trafficleak, so it better be real profitable. If anyone can do it, I belive its ImLive. The rest is just to little profit compared to the trafficleak.


... if you ask me

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15018937)
Dwrecks program (forgot the name)

That would be webcamcash

travs 11-07-2008 06:47 AM

man...good thing i'm no longer promoting them

see sig!

l0lf4c3 11-07-2008 06:51 AM

They went quite agressive, even after their recent agressive marketing campaings. Popups and unders are quite an annoying way to do marketing.
But guess what ? No one will leave them this time either...

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0lf4c3 (Post 15018958)
They went quite agressive, even after their recent agressive marketing campaings. Popups and unders are quite an annoying way to do marketing.
But guess what ? No one will leave them this time either...

Wel it does work ( for them )
But this is behind the back of the affiliates.
Situation is like this since a week or so..

http://imagehost.awms-network.com/up...51cadc0ae8.gif

bufferover 11-07-2008 06:56 AM

Damn just got webcam domain and i was planing to promote them

Fletch XXX 11-07-2008 06:56 AM

always keep an eye out

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 06:58 AM

Bump for some answers from Team AWE

l0lf4c3 11-07-2008 07:00 AM

Would really be surprised if it did not work for them. :)

They let us fish in their pool, but keep the biggest rod for themselves... (sounds like someone has complexes :P)

No need to mention, they lenghten their rod every time a little, just for the others to not notice the growth.

l0lf4c3 11-07-2008 07:02 AM

Oh yes, and as well i forgot to mention that beaten dogs used to bite back after a while... :P Will see how they'll progress in this matter. :2 cents:

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 07:09 AM

I'm kind of done with jumping threw flaming hopes every time. This is becoming a unworkable situation. Will keep this thread up for at least 14 days :)

DamageX 11-07-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15019007)
I'm kind of done with jumping threw flaming hopes every time. This is becoming a unworkable situation. Will keep this thread up for at least 14 days :)

After which they will keep your rebills. :1orglaugh

MoreMagic 11-07-2008 07:24 AM

Oefff keep watching, this going to become even more very soon.

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 07:32 AM

As i see it now, Jasmin is killing their own future webmasters. Good, they can have this pop-under, but it will increase the traffic from AWE Affiliates to OTHER Cam portals.

Why bite the hand that feeds you?

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 07:40 AM

will keep this thread up, everyone who pushes Livejasmin aka AWEmpire should be aware of this.

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 08:25 AM

bump for an answer.

campimp 11-07-2008 08:28 AM

bump for an answer

mpahlca 11-07-2008 08:29 AM

I think you need to check cause every cam program out their has their own tube site, mainly to eventually cut out affiliates completely, at least thats what I would do...

MoreMagic 11-07-2008 08:31 AM

Did I bump this already?

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15019306)
I think you need to check cause every cam program out their has their own tube site, mainly to eventually cut out affiliates completely, at least thats what I would do...

Then let them speak in public and say that this is their plan. Some honesty would be on its place.

br4sco 11-07-2008 08:51 AM

bump bump bump ..... i would also like to hear the reason for this, since they are mainly the only cam program i promote.

Machete_ 11-07-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15019306)
I think you need to check cause every cam program out their has their own tube site, mainly to eventually cut out affiliates completely, at least thats what I would do...

That sound like a legendary Lars explanation "we are forced to do it, because everyone else does"

dav3 11-07-2008 09:01 AM

There are some long videos on that livesex tube, are they legal? Pretty messed up to undercut your affiliates like that.

moeloubani 11-07-2008 09:08 AM

so does livejasmin with this whole limited time revshare thing not count sales made by members with that cookie?

like a surfer goes to my site, clicks and then joins livejasmin, i get a cut of the first time he deposits...but then 3 weeks later he comes back with the same scree name, do I not get anything this time?

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:08 AM

on their site they promote, their blog says it was up on 21. March, 2008. all people who promote awe just go back and see if your sales have droped since then, mine has, thats about the time when my sales started to go down and i started to lose clients thats been under my cookie for a long long time! and it gets worse each month

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 15019414)
so does livejasmin with this whole limited time revshare thing not count sales made by members with that cookie?

like a surfer goes to my site, clicks and then joins livejasmin, i get a cut of the first time he deposits...but then 3 weeks later he comes back with the same scree name, do I not get anything this time?

if you promote livejasmin as revshare you get a 14 day cookie, if you promote them as pay per signup you get like 40$ and nobody ever again can make money from that user.

DamageX 11-07-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15019329)
Then let them speak in public and say that this is their plan. Some honesty would be on its place.

Honesty? What the fuck do you think this industry is, Saints Of Morality or something? :1orglaugh

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:13 AM

and who ever owns livesex.com is useing per signup, so all of the webmasters users who they have sent over are being taken away right now and we wont ever earn another dime from them heh

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 15019414)
so does livejasmin with this whole limited time revshare thing not count sales made by members with that cookie?

like a surfer goes to my site, clicks and then joins livejasmin, i get a cut of the first time he deposits...but then 3 weeks later he comes back with the same scree name, do I not get anything this time?

There is no life time revenue on livejasmin
All is done by cookie.
They explain this : when you keep a client on your site spending, then you could actually have this for a life time.
Or when you take a cobranded subdomain for 10% of the sales you could keep him for a life time on this subdomain.

It is all sales talk. Life time revenue is what Cams.com does or videosecrets, they do actually life time. I still enjoy sales of first time members years ago.

A member name on Livejasmin is not connected to your stats, when he uses after 4 weeks the same name, your revenue will not raise. Unless he came back to your site to go from there to livejasmin again.

This program is a race till cookie expires. After it expired, AWE keeps full spendings of this client.
They brand their name on banners, movies and what ever they give out. They do realy their best to let the visitor REMIND the name livejasmin.

MoreMagic 11-07-2008 09:17 AM

A bump to keep this up for the next 2 weeks ;)

pornguy 11-07-2008 09:17 AM

Cutting out affiliates is a mistake as is only having affiliate traffic. You need to be diverse and get traffic from all sides.

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 15019451)
A bump to keep this up for the next 2 weeks ;)

a bump to keep this up for the next 2 months :thumbsup

dav3 11-07-2008 09:21 AM

The pop-up heard 'round the world.

MoreMagic 11-07-2008 09:23 AM

A bump to keep this up for the next 2 weeks ;)

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:29 AM

bump for awe

dav3 11-07-2008 09:33 AM

maybe we will just forget about it?

Tjeezers 11-07-2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 15019522)
maybe we will just forget about it?

U wish !

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:39 AM

bump for my new sig :1orglaugh

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:41 AM

anybody else here have good cam programs that make them money and not shitty to the ones who send them traffic? please post here and if im not signed up , i'll sign up under u

ChatCash_Rob 11-07-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 15019306)
I think you need to check cause every cam program out their has their own tube site, mainly to eventually cut out affiliates completely, at least thats what I would do...

We don't .

dav3 11-07-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 15019552)
anybody else here have good cam programs that make them money and not shitty to the ones who send them traffic? please post here and if im not signed up , i'll sign up under u

I had just 'adjusted' my sig too! :1orglaugh

dav3 11-07-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15019525)
U wish !

no no no, I have a difficult time making my sarcasm convey in text.

br4sco 11-07-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 15019570)
I had just 'adjusted' my sig too! :1orglaugh

kool hehe i just signed up under you for webcams.com ... it any good?

dav3 11-07-2008 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 15019617)
kool hehe i just signed up under you for webcams.com ... it any good?

yes, but definitely use revshare. btw, thanks!


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