50% of users leave prechecked cross sells
 

No wonder this industry is abusing 'em. :)

PS why'd I get in on this so late

Interesting... where did you hear this Brad?

Must be new surfers.

87.9% of statistics are made up on the spot

50% of them post your website here also.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Incrediblepass

Have a good time fucking yourself over for a few extra bucks.

Yeah, only new surfers still buy porn. The old ones are getting their credit cards declined after having to charge back the cost of memberships to sites they never joined.

Not porn, and I found out because I am doing it.

PS fuck you, you're all poor.

That site is about screwing the surfer over. Lots of sites with two pre-check xsales, but on honest companies, aren't listed on that site.

If you want to see how sites really do with prechecks, support, member areas in general, read the comments on review sites.

Damn, my site isn't listed there. I am not doing enough volume yet I guess.

Says the guy who had to sell his sig. :)

Who says I "had" to? The amount bought me a very nice toy, so why not?

That's like me offering to send you X dollars and you just saying "Nah I don't need the money for doing nothing thanks. I'll just not have it instead."

PS DamageX how is it that you are more spiteful and hateful than I am? You're constantly firing shots at peoples bows. I mean, I am a huge dick. I just can't imagine what your brain is like and what you think about all the time.

Thanks for you opinion but I will be dumping sponsors who do pre-checks.

I don't subscribe to the idea that it's ok to fuck people over just because of loop
holes. You're free to call that "good business"; I'm free to consider what it
really is...a fucking scam.

I like that about people. :)

I didn't state an opinion.

I never said anything about good business either. I said Honest Companies, doing above the button pre-checked xsales. Which isn't a scam, is legal, and is approved and allowed by VISA, nobody is rolling merchant accounts on these, and they are well within the safe CB/Refund limits, often below honest sites.

You can choose to promote whoever you like, that wasn't the point of either of our posts. I don't promote pre-checked programs and haven't for a long time. It's a real f'in pain in the ass.

The sole reason it's pre-checked is because they pray to god the surfer doesn't know
what it means and does not uncheck it.

Bullshit.

If it's so easy to read and so desired to have and all surfers see it, then why are sponsors
afraid to let the surfer check it themselves?

Because they fear the surfer will not see it and check it??? :winkwink:

Those crosssales sponsors act like soon will noone buy porn so they try to collect money as much is possible.Well,soon noone will buy porn if they continue to act like that.

What about recurring billing? What if I someone said that recurring is just because sponsors hope that the person forgets they have a membership? Why not let them come back and manually pay each month? ;)

You would have a point if there wasn't a "cancel membership" button the surfer
can click at any time in addition to the actual sign up button saying
"29.95 a month re-billed at 29.95 per month".

Nice try though.

I'm not trying anything though. I'm just saying there are 2 sides to every arguement. One might believe one thing is perfectly acceptable, while another doesn't. This is obvious by all the posts on the complaint sites about epoch doing supposedly ILLEGAL things, when we know this isn't true. To us its legit, to some surfers, its not.

Actually look at this.. We all know how epoch processes a join.. everything is labeled well, they send an email confirming the join, how to cancel, etc..

http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Epoch
163 fraud complaints..

it's more like 25%