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Mr Bond 11-24-2008 07:23 PM

Thunder-Ball.net to BAN Thumblogger.com - Vote Now
 
Vote Now on the Future of Thumblogger at Thunder-Ball.net

Over the last 5 or more months users at TBN (thunder-ball.net) consistently complain of the amount Low Quality requests from people using Thumblogger.com. What can only be described as a SPAM Flood of requests by users of Thumblogger.com - is exceptionally irritating to more experienced webmasters at TBN.

We have not forgotten that everyone was new at one time and it is not our intention to suppress them. However, the Extreme amount of low quality link requests by the Majority of thumblogger users that are learning as they go - is coming at the expense of the more established users of TBN.

We also understand that there ARE some people using Thumblogger that DO know what they are doing. Unfortunately those people are a minority.


Proposed Solution:
  1. Block any New Thumblogger Domains/Subdomains from being added to Thunder-Ball.net
  2. Existing Thumblogger domains(already in TBN) will be allowed to remain. This means you will Still get requests from Thumblogger domains that are already In The TBN System.
  3. This block will reduce and eventually eliminate Thumblogger activity at Thunder-Ball.net
  4. This may actually help Noobs by leading them more quickly to the conclusiong that links from free hosts such as Thumblogger.com are basically worthless
  5. Noobs can use Thunder-Ball.net at a later time when they are more established.


Actually, this has reminded me of when ThumBlogger blocked Thunder-ball.net in the ThumBlogger forums. Any word or link related to Thunder-Ball.net was (and still is) blocked and replaced with ********.

It was a basic " Fuck You " from ThumBlogger to Thunder-Ball.net . Thunder-Ball had not and never has done anything to offend or compete with ThumBlogger. So I still see no reason for such a rude action.

So, let us now return the favor and say:

FUCK YOU FuckBlogger

Vote Now


Mr.Bond

Ramp 11-24-2008 07:32 PM

Fuck'em!

Mr Bond 11-24-2008 07:40 PM

Post your comments too... to keep visibility on this thread

Tempest 11-24-2008 07:40 PM

Seems foolish... Thumblogger blogs are NOT worthless..

I don't know how the thunderball system works, but why not just allow a user to "block" requests from thumblogger sites if they want to.

CaptainHowdy 11-24-2008 07:48 PM

Just passing by ...

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-24-2008 07:55 PM

Wouldn't this be better done ON thunder-ball.net? I'm pretty sure not everyone uses GFY...

d-null 11-24-2008 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 15100870)
..... I'm pretty sure not everyone uses GFY...

are you serious?? :error:1orglaugh

pornguy 11-24-2008 08:00 PM

I think it should be on a thunderball link trader option. If they want to fine if not fine.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 08:03 PM

Fuck Thumblogger I for one want the thumblogger service out of tbn...

The Thumblogger service is causeing nothing but deminishing thunder-ball and causeing arguements within the tbn community between members argueing about link verification among each other, and getting member in a negative frustrated mood over link verifications aswell...

I've been asked on more than one occassion to step in between members, involved in disputes cause one cannot verify the others recip and or vice versa...

Now Dont get me wrong....

The members themselves are not to blame whether they use thumblogger or not.

Now, I for one understand that its not their fault, and they dont control thumblogger, they just use the thumblogger service...

but this is getting out of hand, and frankly Im not a referee nor am I thumblogger support...

on a diferrent note. Here are a few quotes members have submitted as to how they feel about thumblogger... (and obviously I will keep the quotes anonymous)

Quote:

decide what to do with thumblogger.
IMO itd be even better to remove it from tbn, as it'll be cleaner and much respected by other webmasters that simply wont use it because of tons of spammers and crappy sites.
Quote:

Its better to do one quality trade than a bunch of crappy ones.

And I would suggest you to just tell the situation as it is, you want to put your quality on the next level, and secure your users from unwanted spam and low quality sites.

Just my 2 cents...
I for one agree 100% that it is better todo one quality trade then a bunch of shitty ones...

After all thumbloggger sites are all on the same IP. Once you've trades with one you've trades with them all....

So THUNDERBALLERS Speak your Mind and let us now how you feel????

Pornopat 11-24-2008 08:04 PM

I think it could be solved by making it a passive option.
No offers from thumblogger sites but people can ask for links from thumblogger sites...


BTW...my links still have the same pr as 4 months ago while there has been an update?

cess 11-24-2008 08:15 PM

Where's option 3? Completely remove thumblogger from TBN and pretend it doesn't exists.

RedShoe 11-24-2008 08:20 PM

voted and bumped.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 15100885)
I think it could be solved by making it a passive option.
No offers from thumblogger sites but people can ask for links from thumblogger sites...

What purpose would that serve?

I mean thumblogger has blocked TBN on numerous occassion and the owner has made it clear that he really doesn't want tbn and thumblogger to work together...

so its not like you'd be able to verify any links cause thumblogger wount allow it. Which defeats the main purpose of using tbn to check trades..

Besides this thread is part of us makeing one last ditch effort to a passive solution as you speak of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 15100885)
BTW...my links still have the same pr as 4 months ago while there has been an update?

Ok I will make sure it gets looked at but your sites have to be enabled, diabled sites are protected from anyone sending anything to them i beleive even Search engines

Rorschach 11-24-2008 08:27 PM

You can see why there are so many scammers on thumblogger. For a while there, anything on tb was getting a huge boost in the serps. It's not so bad now, but you can still get some nice rankings there - for free. People see other people doing it, rinse and repeat.

I personally don't trade with thumblogger blogs because of the large number of low quality blogs and the risk that thumblogger will just shut up shop or be sold and all those links die at once. So I voted fuck 'em.

Thanks for running a quality service! :thumbsup

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 15100885)
BTW...my links still have the same pr as 4 months ago while there has been an update?

Hit me up on icq, its out of focus on this thread..

Pornopat 11-24-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15100948)
Hit me up on icq, its out of focus on this thread..

Thanks for the fast support.
:thumbsup

brassmonkey 11-24-2008 08:46 PM

ban their asses lol

HowlingWulf 11-24-2008 09:08 PM

I voted to ban but would prefer a TBN option to not accept requests and filter searches with ANY free hosted blog sites, including thumblogger.

CyberHustler 11-24-2008 09:12 PM

Everybody who requested a trade on that thing always wanted a fucked up trade that never benefited me, only them. Bunch of subdomains and free hosts and shit. Not bashing it, but not for me.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 15101039)
Everybody who requested a trade on that thing always wanted a fucked up trade that never benefited me, only them. Bunch of subdomains and free hosts and shit. Not bashing it, but not for me.

You just pointed out one of the main reasons this thread was started in the 1st place. i.e. TBN cleaning house

thanks :winkwink:

Makingcoin 11-24-2008 09:32 PM

Allow members to filter out domains, ie thumblogger.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin (Post 15101083)
Allow members to filter out domains, ie thumblogger.

You can and have been able todo so since the begining by simply not selecting them when requesting a trade...

Its that simple, dont want it then dont click on it

You also have the option of deleteing any requests the come from thumblogger domains, and it hasn't made a diferrence, regardng the issues that have been occuring

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 10:26 PM

It's True that another tool would make it easier for members that feel lazy but its nothing you can't already do with an additional step. However it does not and has not solved the problem.

wizzart 11-24-2008 10:55 PM

I don't have Thumblogger sites but I know they are not useless

spacedog 11-24-2008 11:00 PM

I fucking HATE those newbs that request links on my domains to their domains, but they only offer a fucking worthless free hosted subdomain blog as return link back.. Fuck that.. I have hundreds of my own thumblogger blogs with links to my shit so don't need somebody elses.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 11:03 PM

Place Your Votes and Speak Your Mind
Any input will be considered

mikesinner 11-24-2008 11:06 PM

Just make an option for thumblogger trades to be auto blocked by the individual user. Thumblogger is only 1 of hundreds of free hosted blogging platforms so blocking them is useless.

qxm 11-24-2008 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15101307)
Just make an option for thumblogger trades to be auto blocked by the individual user. Thumblogger is only 1 of hundreds of free hosted blogging platforms so blocking them is useless.

word :2 cents:.... and just with a simple filter a user can select to either accept thumblogger and other free blog hosting link exchanges or block them.... sounds good to me....:thumbsup

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 15101319)
word :2 cents:.... and just with a simple filter a user can select to either accept thumblogger and other free blog hosting link exchanges or block them.... sounds good to me....:thumbsup

Ok, so what happens when and if you accept them and trade then you cant verify your recip from the other person?...

Are all of you willing to search thru hundreds of thumblogger sites you trade with to check recip links manually ?

qxm 11-24-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15101326)
Ok, so what happens when and if you accept them and trade then you cant verify your recip from the other person?...

Are all of you willing to search thru hundreds of thumblogger sites you trade with to check recip links manually ?

it doesn't have to be complicated m8... just think about it... if you choose to block thumblogger trades people on the other side (requesting links) will see some sort of message saying that the user they requested to trade links with doesn't accept thumbblogger trades

if the user does accept thumblogger trades then its business as usual... don't see why we would have to check recips manually... and one more thing.. if u absolutely rely on TB to check your recips and you are not running a link script on your site .. say LO or Linkex to check recips with a cron then.... .... ... :Oh crap

mikesinner 11-24-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15101326)
Ok, so what happens when and if you accept them and trade then you cant verify your recip from the other person?...

Are all of you willing to search thru hundreds of thumblogger sites you trade with to check recip links manually ?

Sounds like you need to have a programmer look at your script. Blocking thumblogger is not going to solve the problem.

peeperpimp 11-24-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 15101336)
it doesn't have to be complicated m8... just think about it... if you choose to block thumblogger trades people on the other side (requesting links) will see some sort of message saying that the user they requested to trade links with doesn't accept thumbblogger trades

if the user does accept thumblogger trades then its business as usual... don't see why we would have to check recips manually... and one more thing.. if u absolutely rely on TB to check your recips and you are not running a link script on your site .. say LO or Linkex to check recips with a cron then.... .... ... :Oh crap

Have you read the entire thread?

Mr Bond 11-24-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15101307)
Just make an option for thumblogger trades to be auto blocked by the individual user. Thumblogger is only 1 of hundreds of free hosted blogging platforms so blocking them is useless.

True Enough... I believe the filter option may be best as we could add other free hosts to the list of Optional Filterable Domains.

The only reason FULL Ban may still be considered is because the amount of noobs from ThumBlogger is almost 100%. Plus their attitued towards TBN is NOT Friendly either. And so far ThumBlogger and its Users have been the only free host my users have complained about

More people are turning out for thumblogger than expected so lets let the poll run for a few more days before making a decision.

Bond

peeperpimp 11-25-2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15101353)
Sounds like you need to have a programmer look at your script. Blocking thumblogger is not going to solve the problem.

lol. Its not our script. If you've read the thread and or where aware of whats really going on you'd realize that....

I'll say it once again Twain the owner of thumblogger has made it clear to us TBN admin that he does not want to allow TBN to verify links on his blogs and has also made it clear he does not wish to allow for TBN to work with thumblogger....

This is not coming from us its actually coming from and initiated by thumblogger and Twain...

we are simple running a poll to see how many of you our TBn members would think its actually worth it to keep negotiations open because we've been at it for quite a while now...

So we're coming to you the members to see what you think?

should we keep trying or Say fuck thumblogger, call it quits with them and move on to makeing TBN better...

Why because thats exactly what thumblogger has already done.

So should we cut our loses with them and move on or keep beeting our heads into the ground and trying when thumblogger has already said no?

This is not a debate its a poll to see how many TBN members actually want thumblogger to stick around within TBN...

You votes will determine the outcome, and actions we will take, as this is ur service to you we feel you should have a say in what happens...

But it wont change the fact that Twain / Thumblogger has already made his / their decission...

cess 11-25-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Bond (Post 15101378)

The only reason FULL Ban may still be considered is because the amount of noobs from ThumBlogger is almost 100%. Plus their attitued towards TBN is NOT Friendly either. And so far ThumBlogger and its Users have been the only free host my users have complained about


Bond

FULL BAN! :winkwink: No point to cause you and anyone else that works with you anymore grief if the owners of thumblogger are working against you for no reason.

mikesinner 11-25-2008 12:44 AM

well, if your going to ban thumblogger is that going to kill existing trades?

Bandiz 11-25-2008 12:47 AM

If you will not remove old thumblogger.com blog from your site then That is good Idea

peeperpimp 11-25-2008 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 15101481)
well, if your going to ban thumblogger is that going to kill existing trades?

Why not read the thread? The answer is in the starting post.

perfectodollars-gabrio 11-25-2008 12:54 AM

i would say remove, there are some good ones but the majority are bad.

gab

mikesinner 11-25-2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15101491)
Why not read the thread? The answer is in the starting post.

ok, then I should hurry up and add a few hundred, lol

qxm 11-25-2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15101377)
Have you read the entire thread?

yes, and so far I haven't seen anyone mention manual verification of links as a direct consequence of banning thumbblogger from TBN.... other than that... the cliffnote is ... BAN Thumbblogger ... what did I miss?

Tempest 11-25-2008 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15100881)
After all thumbloggger sites are all on the same IP. Once you've trades with one you've trades with them all....

You sure are a whiny little bitch.. Your statement here indicates you don't know shit.

peeperpimp 11-25-2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qxm (Post 15101529)
yes, and so far I haven't seen anyone mention manual verification of links as a direct consequence of banning thumbblogger from TBN.... other than that... the cliffnote is ... BAN Thumbblogger ... what did I miss?

Read it again,.. Someone did Mention it.

I did.

As far as everything else you've been missing, well, read the notices within TBN guide and help section which have led up to this?

We're constantly updateing them to keep the members aware of everything. Since that is the logical place for them considering thats where members would normally look 1st when they cant verify a trade

polosas 11-25-2008 01:20 AM

i voted for banning

i dont like to get hundreds of requests from one person to link to his thumblogger over one night or with automated scripts.

Sands 11-25-2008 01:22 AM

You should definitely compromise and allow users to determine whether or not they want to accept trade requests with thumblogger sites. It seems like the most viable option that will keep most people happy.

xsabn 11-25-2008 01:26 AM

ban them, or:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 15100876)
I think it should be on a thunderball link trader option. If they want to fine if not fine.

also do something with some of the fuckers that drop links. thunder-ball see them as they have the links on their sites, in fact are deleted

qxm 11-25-2008 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeperpimp (Post 15101563)
Read it again,.. Someone did Mention it.

I did.

As far as everything else you've been missing, well, read the notices within TBN guide and help section which have led up to this?

We're constantly updateing them to keep the members aware of everything. Since that is the logical place for them considering thats where members would normally look 1st when they cant verify a trade

Dude... seriously I have no idea why u r trying to make this into some sort of computer science paradigm ... I know you did mention the "manual recip verification thing" thats why I addressed it in that post...but other than yourself no one is concerned about it...

I don't see your logic that banning thumblogger sites will make everyone have to manually verify links.. see second point of the proposed solution:

Quote:

Existing Thumblogger domains(already in TBN) will be allowed to remain. This means you will Still get requests from Thumblogger domains that are already In The TBN System.
Now as far as your answer as to what I am missing... I have to say... dude what? ... I know what triggered this move by TB .. its on the first post for crying out loud... I don't need to go into the help section to find out whats going on! and I won't since I don't have thumblogger sites and I don't deal with them.....

If thumblogger is to be banned from TB .. that is a move I don't oppose and rather endorse because of obvious reasons... other than that I really don't see how my POV disagrees with the things that have already been said in this thread ...

svin 11-25-2008 01:30 AM

Allow ThumBlogger Domains at Thunder-Ball.net !!!

qxm 11-25-2008 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svin (Post 15101607)
Allow ThumBlogger Domains at Thunder-Ball.net !!!

nice first post :upsidedow

bdld 11-25-2008 01:32 AM

those requests are annoying, but so are all the other free blog hosting sites i get requests from as well. so i say ban them all, only allow domains.


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