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AnalProbe 11-26-2008 08:33 AM

10 biggest spammers of this moment [list]
 
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Jens Van Assterdam 11-26-2008 08:35 AM

Only 1 GFY´er made the list? Thats sad!

Machete_ 11-26-2008 08:36 AM

People should read #8

Yambo Financials
Huge spamhaus tied into distribution and billing for child, animal, and incest-porn, pirated software, and pharmaceuticals. Run their own merchant services (credit-card "collection" sites) set up as a fake "bank."
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...o%20Financials

mikeyddddd 11-26-2008 08:37 AM


silver 11-26-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 15108022)
Only 1 GFY´er made the list? Thats sad!

There are plenty of GFY'ers listed on that site in other areas.

LoveSandra 11-26-2008 08:55 AM

intersting

BlackCrayon 11-26-2008 09:08 AM

spamhaus is so full of shit its not even funny. most of their information is never verified and just rumours.

Phoenix 11-26-2008 09:10 AM

not too mention there are many signs they are mailers themselves and use spamhaus to take out the competition

bloggerz 11-26-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 15108108)
spamhaus is so full of shit its not even funny. most of their information is never verified and just rumours.

nailed it.

brand0n 11-26-2008 09:13 AM

im still not here :sigh:

NickB. 11-26-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15108028)
People should read #8

Yambo Financials
Huge spamhaus tied into distribution and billing for child, animal, and incest-porn, pirated software, and pharmaceuticals. Run their own merchant services (credit-card "collection" sites) set up as a fake "bank."
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...o%20Financials

shit you guys found me:1orglaugh, GOD DAMN - WHAT A TRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!:warning

rowan 11-26-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15108028)
People should read #8

Yambo Financials
Huge spamhaus tied into distribution and billing for child, animal, and incest-porn, pirated software, and pharmaceuticals. Run their own merchant services (credit-card "collection" sites) set up as a fake "bank."
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...o%20Financials

Like Whoa!

Just did a search to refresh my memory... the term 'yambo' will throw up several threads of interest on GFY. :thumbsup

MrDeiz 11-26-2008 09:18 AM

fuck, i got the 2nd place there ((

pornguy 11-26-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 15108108)
spamhaus is so full of shit its not even funny. most of their information is never verified and just rumours.

Man you aint kidding....

ry0t 11-26-2008 09:28 AM

Fuck! I didnt make the list.

doridori 11-26-2008 09:33 AM

how does these spammers make money?

rowan 11-26-2008 09:34 AM

"Did they have a phone number for Yambo?

"I have the address of their main headquarters in Gainesville, Florida."

That address turned out to be an apartment whose phone number was registered to five people with the same Russian-sounding last name.

I called and asked for the person who handles the grant giveaways.

"What?" said the sleepy female voice that answered.

The grant giveaway? The free money from the government?

"Oh, that must be Anton."

I left a number, but Anton never returned any of my calls."


:1orglaugh

Full article: http://www.baltimoresun.com/business...ness-headlines

Juicy D. Links 11-26-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doridori (Post 15108207)
how does these spammers make money?


they sale oranges

AnalProbe 11-26-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15108210)
"Did they have a phone number for Yambo?

"I have the address of their main headquarters in Gainesville, Florida."

That address turned out to be an apartment whose phone number was registered to five people with the same Russian-sounding last name.

I called and asked for the person who handles the grant giveaways.

"What?" said the sleepy female voice that answered.

The grant giveaway? The free money from the government?

"Oh, that must be Anton."

I left a number, but Anton never returned any of my calls."


:1orglaugh

Full article: http://www.baltimoresun.com/business...ness-headlines

:1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 11-26-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 15108214)
they sale oranges

I'm a spammer then...

http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/p...all-orange.jpg

fris 11-26-2008 11:10 AM

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/eviden...kso_id=ROK2877

oh snap

andy83 11-26-2008 11:18 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 15108594)


[db] 11-26-2008 11:26 AM

Not even close to accurate. Where am I on that list?? Not to mention, where are the guys who run spamhaus? They're huge spammers, easily top 10 worldwide I would guess. They don't have to work around blacklists like the rest of us mailers.

Funny thing about lists like Rosko, they only count spammers who get termed from hosts. So guys who run their own datacenters, or have reliable hookups in places like HK (or Pakistan like myself). Not to mention mailers intelligent enough to have front companies incorporated in friendly nations that can't be traced to them.

I've been doing bulk mailing for damn near ten years, and I have been terminated from a host exactly once. Probably hundreds of billions of emails sent by me personally, and the way that list is set up, even if they knew everything about my business practices, I wouldn't qualify for their database. Yet some kid with a proxy mailer who gets termed from two $99/month servers over two months of mailing is in. Completely useless even if it were well intentioned, as opposed to the front for spammers that it is.

Note: While I am a bulk mailer who sends UCE, I have followed the can spam act to the letter since the day it was introduced. My business is completely legal, so you bitches out there with inferiority complexes because your 500k/day TGP only makes you $400 a month, don't waste your time crying to some LE agency about me.

[db] 11-26-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 15108022)
Only 1 GFY´er made the list? Thats sad!


Who is from GFY?

fris 11-26-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 15108831)
Who is from GFY?

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/eviden...kso_id=ROK2877

FreeHugeMovies 11-26-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doridori (Post 15108207)
how does these spammers make money?

Dear lord..

crockett 11-26-2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 15108802)
Not even close to accurate. Where am I on that list?? Not to mention, where are the guys who run spamhaus? They're huge spammers, easily top 10 worldwide I would guess. They don't have to work around blacklists like the rest of us mailers.

Funny thing about lists like Rosko, they only count spammers who get termed from hosts. So guys who run their own datacenters, or have reliable hookups in places like HK (or Pakistan like myself). Not to mention mailers intelligent enough to have front companies incorporated in friendly nations that can't be traced to them.

I've been doing bulk mailing for damn near ten years, and I have been terminated from a host exactly once. Probably hundreds of billions of emails sent by me personally, and the way that list is set up, even if they knew everything about my business practices, I wouldn't qualify for their database. Yet some kid with a proxy mailer who gets termed from two $99/month servers over two months of mailing is in. Completely useless even if it were well intentioned, as opposed to the front for spammers that it is.

Note: While I am a bulk mailer who sends UCE, I have followed the can spam act to the letter since the day it was introduced. My business is completely legal, so you bitches out there with inferiority complexes because your 500k/day TGP only makes you $400 a month, don't waste your time crying to some LE agency about me.

So are you saying you manage to do all this mailing with out using proxies?

RedShoe 11-26-2008 12:44 PM

The russian only got 4 spots??? WTF??? Are they slipping up or what?

[db] 11-26-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15109169)
So are you saying you manage to do all this mailing with out using proxies?

yes

....

[db] 11-26-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15109036)

Hey! Good for Python. Glad to see they're still rocking sales after all these years. Would have thought they'd all have so much money by now they'd start slipping like most people do when they achieve that level of success. Personally my numbers are way down from say four years ago, due to just not giving too much of a shit, and I'm nowhere near as successful as them. They must be exceptionally greedy bastards! :1orglaugh :thumbsup

JockJuiceContent 11-26-2008 01:26 PM

that would really suck to get on that list ha ha, lesson here dont spam!

[db] 11-26-2008 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15109169)
So are you saying you manage to do all this mailing with out using proxies?


I mean I've used proxies plenty in the past, but not at all since Can-Spam. Anyway I find it easier just to burn through IP ranges.

Antonio 11-26-2008 01:37 PM

this spamhouse cocksuckers almost closed 10 sites of mine, never in my life sent a single spam email, fucking cocksuckers, got in trouble with one of my hosts bout 3-4 years ago, fucking faggots

[db] 11-26-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JockJuiceContent (Post 15109439)
that would really suck to get on that list ha ha, lesson here dont spam!

Everyone on that list has over 10 million dollars. Most probably 5 times that.

For that you can put me on the list of People Magazine's biggest douchbags on the planet, I don't give a fuck. How does making a list on the internet outweigh being more wealthy than most regular people (including 99.9% of this board) could ever dream of? Do you think any of them are going to lose a wink of sleep over a silly ROKSO list?

Most of the people on that list seem to be scumbag scam artists; the yambo guys, fake pills or whatever. I wouldn't piss on those clowns if they were on fire. They should go to jail, but not for mailing. However the good old fashion porn peddlers, casino pushers, etc... they are all operating legally and worth massive sums of money. How is the lesson here don't spam?

crockett 11-26-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db] (Post 15109467)
I mean I've used proxies plenty in the past, but not at all since Can-Spam. Anyway I find it easier just to burn through IP ranges.

Well if true, I can at least give you credit for playing by the rules. One of the things that always annoyed me was how the govt treated e-mail spam. It's a crime if you do it on the net, but as long as you pay the govt it's postage fee you can spam anyone you want with junk mail and the US postal service will be your delivery method.

AnalProbe 11-26-2008 03:49 PM

So, how many of GFY on Spamhaus ?

MasterBlow 11-26-2008 03:55 PM

spam for spammers:)

BSleazy 11-26-2008 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15109528)
Well if true, I can at least give you credit for playing by the rules. One of the things that always annoyed me was how the govt treated e-mail spam. It's a crime if you do it on the net, but as long as you pay the govt it's postage fee you can spam anyone you want with junk mail and the US postal service will be your delivery method.

I wonder what it would cost to start bulk mailing through the postal system with offers for online services or products. You'd probably have better results than emailing. Everyone looks at their mail.

[db] 11-26-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 15110368)
I wonder what it would cost to start bulk mailing through the postal system with offers for online services or products. You'd probably have better results than emailing. Everyone looks at their mail.

Pornographers and casino guys can't do it because we'd go to jail. Too late to do it now because the ression is going to kill consumer spending, but if you had something profitable enough there was a time when you might have been able to make money that way, I don't know, I've never looked in to it at all.

I was always surprised that I never got much general advertising for online stuff. I mean I always get tons of shit for industry stuff, but that's because I'm on lists all over the damn place. I always thought it was a market that hadn't been exploited. I kind of assumed that some folks tried it and just couldn't get the numbers to work. We certainly get enough of the shit from every brick and mortar business on earth. You'd assume that some wise online people would be able to make it work for them too.

AOL made a killing doing this, obviously. They had a service was very expensive and very profitable, and they did it at the exact right time, but they made fucking billions and it was all from snail mail spam.

[db] 11-26-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15109528)
Well if true, I can at least give you credit for playing by the rules. One of the things that always annoyed me was how the govt treated e-mail spam. It's a crime if you do it on the net, but as long as you pay the govt it's postage fee you can spam anyone you want with junk mail and the US postal service will be your delivery method.

That brings up an interesting point as well. I've always thought that instead of treating spam as a law enforcement issue, governments, data centers, and telecom companies should tax mailers.

Winning the war on spam militarily is going to be about as successful as the what, 30+ year attempt at winning the war on drugs that way. :2 cents:

[db] 11-26-2008 04:50 PM

However I don't like the argument that spammers are somehow abusing networks and bandwidth and blah blah blah. Spammers pay for their bandwidth just the same as anyone else who runs a for profit online site. The people we should be focusing on suing and arresting and outing like this list is doing, are the people who are hijacking computers and using them to send spam and whatever else. Those guys are criminals and I think it's really on microsoft and apple to get on that shit. Stop them, track them down, and arrest them.


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