OK, so business sucks....conversion ratios are lower than ever
 

right? Now lets see the liars step up to the plate.

duno what u talking about .. general teen niche is converting at 1:126 for me ... gotta try it out some time son ..

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AFF is converting 1:8 for me from yahoo chat rooms

















My bad its not 2003 anymore, damnit

son??? lol

you seem to be missing the boat, haven't you noticed all the sponsors that are paying $100 pps AND boasting a 1:279 ratio??

There are 1000's of new webmasters becoming millionaires as we speak.....:pimp

and the coloured girls go do be do be do be doo be doo

how much more easy can it get, send 10000 uniques and their magical mystery tour will convert at 1:200 so you will get 50 sales in a day and maybe even win a booby prize :1orglaugh

sis? ... dam failed attempt numba 1... lol :1orglaugh

But yeah I mean.. anyone converting at less than 2:1 is just wasting time ... or so I've heard...

This is 12 clicks bait....just wait for it.....

The thread title says "business sucks...conversion ratios are lower than ever"

But you don't say what it is that you do or how you do it. Are you an affiliate? How do you send traffic? How long you been doing this?

Because then you said "liars step up to the plate"

Some people on here, like me, have our own sites and our own traffic and know our way around and know how to make money. Things are slow right now. No doubt. There are a lot of reasons for that.

But to make a statement that you are doing bad, and so are a bunch of others...and so anyone who is doing well must be a liar is a little too broad of a paintbrush to use.

A lot of the big mega sites...I can't sell memberships anymore. I send 'em a ton of traffic. But there stuff is all over the tubes and torrents. So yeah, that is bad news. Can't sell a membership when the entire site is ripped for free.

And now we have affiliates "educating" surfers about x-sells. So now...we have millions of surfers who have been told a business secret and are now afraid to pull their card. Smart move. Probably the only business in the world where the salesmen are fucking up their own sales by revealing hidden costs.

And of course there is the economy. Sucks. And even worse is the psychological fear that people have. They might not have felt anything yet...but the media keeps talking 24/7 about how bad it is and it scares the shit out of the people who aren't doing too bad, because they think they are next so they sit on their money.

But for all of that...I've seen worse and made good money. Gonna keep right on doing it. If you're promoting a paysite that doesn't convert anymore. Keep looking. You'll figure out in the next few months that the site that PROTECT their content and shoot exclusive stuff with a solo girl with fans who are loyal and seek her out and stay is where the money is.

And there are also some other great sites that just came out and are selling real well for me. But I'm not gonna tell you which ones. Just check my free sites and you'll see what I'm pushing hard. I follow the money. And it's all revshare baby!

Yeah I get all that. Robbie, I shook your hand in San Francisco. I met your lovely wife. You don't need to sell me. It is just a train of thought.

but y'all know business sucks. When I first did this, it was raining money. Huge amounts of cash. Now.....its business. Just like the real world. It takes acumen. Skill. And a large investment of capital. The good times are over, not the profits.

I dunno, I know people doing 40+ joins a day to single sponsors, have plenty of affiliates doing very well.

It is only the first day of the month. Much too early to tell.

OK, who are they?

You think this is a monthly business? Why?

Who are you then? I can't place your face to your nickname heh-heh Identify yourself bitch so I can say "hi" :)

not you obviously. :thumbsup

bad answer.

who the hell is gonna post which affiliates are doing 40+ sales a day.

Bitch? I think not. But you were sitting on a high stool eating...what...shrimp or something and you waxed on about your long history in tgp's and how you have just recently been pitching your wife with black guys....not that there is anything wrong with that.

then why did you post that shit? Either put up or shut up. Everything else is just gfy sigwhoring.

just saying there are people doing good instead of bitching about conversions. And most don't have time to post on boards.

Click the sig please.

What a crock of shit. You swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. So sad. You have no idea. You just parrot the shit you read here. Time to post on boards? The oldes line in the book. Kid, you haven't been around much, have you?

Sitting on a stool eating shrimp? I don't remember that at all bro. Maybe sitting in a chair drinking a beer. LOL And don't remember talking about any of that in S.F. You sure it was me? We were one of the sponsors, and I was at a few of the forums during the day. And of course running wild at night.

I'm the guy with brown hair, 6 ', 205. Was that me you were talking to?

What's your name and what do you do and what were we discussing? Alzheimers is sinking in. :pimp

Biz has been outstanding, figured you must be making a prediction.

didn't I predict the liars would come out?

Yup, it was you. Never mind. We will meet in Vegas or somewhere else I am sure.

I really hope you aren't calling me a liar.

I might be

Well damn it...come up and remind me when you see me. I like meeting people and I'll pull up an extra high stool and a plate of shrimp for ya. lol

Seriously, I'm horrible at remembering people Of course I can't remember you just by a nickname on GFY.

I mostly hung out those days with Jerry Lewis, Mark Womack, LAJ and the pack of whores we brought with us for the show. I just really don't remember eating any shrimp as I took the cable car down to the water each day to eat lunch.

Fuck you.

Back in those days, I stayed at home and made money. But I do remember your when we stories. I will remind you of this someday.

No, no...by those days I meant during the San Francisco show. Not the "old days" lol

but I remember the old days with great fondness. Put up a new set of pictures and earn ten grand. Now we all have to work. Most here will never get it, or even come close.

instead of stripping 3 nights a week i've been forced to start doing it 5 nights a week.

You're still showing up at the house to do that VIP show for me tomorrow night, right?

lol........

Fuck you tard boy, I've been around plenty more than you, I SEE affiliate stats daily, and my top 10% are making as many if not more than they did 6 months ago, I personally am doing better today than a year ago with seling my own sites and other sponsors, albeit dating sponsors conversions took a dive.

I can see from your posts you are just a shit stirring board personality wannabee, so I'm wasting my breath, but if you had any biz sense, you wouldn't be sitting in that sinking ship your sitting in ( a $49 wal-mart bought desk chair) and you'd be making some loot instead of trying to bait people.

fuck your negative shitty and completely unentertaining attitude and I bid you adieu! :321GFY

with bells on. well, or off. pick your poison.

[QUOTE] I personally am doing better today than a year ago with seling my own sites and other sponsors, [QUOTE]

And what the fuck does that mean? ten percent of not a lot is still not a lot.

I prefer balls on and swinging low

... and we are still in the game :winkwink:

draggin like monkeys knuckles

being still in the game is good. Mostly I wonder why most here even bother.

i think we make same money but we work more

smartest thing I have read in gfy in the last year.

I stopped looking at conversions. New trend is to satisfy clients (they aren't numbers).
And go from there. And it works, you'll see...

Not sure where you shop for all the stuff you buy in every day life but if I were to find any hidden costs I sure as shit would be kicking up a shit storm about them.

When I buy a new car I pay for what I want. When I buy groceries I don't have things added to my cart without me or my girlfriend adding them. When I buy clothes, I don't let them throw in matching items unless I want them. I chose what I buy and when I buy it. You can't really be telling me that you pay for hidden extras every day in life now can you?? I thought you were smarter than that.

OH NO you don't! LOL! Both of my brothers are car salesmen. If you think you walk out of a dealership without paying THOUSANDS of dollars more than you have to, then you are a bit misinformed. You better go back to your car dealer and start kicking up that shit storm now. Except you won't know what to raise hell about because the costs are hidden, and they aren't stupid enough to point out what you got overcharged for...that wouldn't make them any money.

See the salesmen make their money off of commission and they get a nice percentage off fo the "product" that they sell you as does the finance manager you sat with in the office to conclude the deal.

Car sales are VERY detailed in how they work. Everything is planned out from the moment you drive onto the lot to the time you walk out smiling with a new car. And yes, you spent thousands more than what was neccessary. Everybody does. It's how they do business.

Not saying that crazy x-sells are good. Just saying, that you are wrong about things you buy everyday. I can't speak for other businesses. But I can for new car sales. And for used car sales which is a different monster. And also for boat sales at a marina as one of my brothers left car sales and bought a marina where he can "whack" you even better. Standard practice in high dollar retail. Just a different method of doing it.

In the end..a Good Deal is when both sides are happy and THINK they got a "good deal" Kinda hard to have customer satisfaction if I as an affiliate started telling my surfers that they some sites will screw them. That leads to overall suspicion. Just like retail sales will NEVER reveal business practices to the general public.